Looking for the extra "go" - LotusTalk

Tr4 · 11-11-2008, 01:46 PM

I have a '07 Elise with touring pack. I have the Larini Sports Exhaust System - Sport Style, and a K&N filter but that is it. I have been looking around at different SC's and the Ronin TC but don't have the money to rebuild the engine.
What is the easiest, most effective, yet money friendly way to make the extra power to make this the perfect car.
Any ideas on which way to go for the power I'm looking for?

Demonized · 11-11-2008, 02:12 PM

BWR or Katana superchargers won't require you to rebuild the engine.

You could get the N/A chip with the lower cam-change from Charlie I guess?

Tr4 · 11-11-2008, 02:28 PM

I did a search and couldn't find all the answers (may have searched wrong but oh well) so I decided to put it all in one post so it's easier to read. Pro's/Con's for the Katana vs BWR? Also Charlie does both tunes if Im not mistaken right? If someone could throw out a price to see how much Im looking to spend it would be greatly appreciated.

xtn · 11-11-2008, 02:33 PM

Install a Bullydog PMT. It adds up to 140 HP.

xtn

SweetDaddyD · 11-11-2008, 02:34 PM

I'll sell you a nitrous system.

Demonized · 11-11-2008, 02:34 PM

I don't have a supercharger myself, but from my understanding;

The BWR Supercharger ($5,200) can be ordered with an PES ECU tune($400), but works with the CharlieX ECU tune($600).

The Katana Supercharger ($4,300) is ordered separately from any tune, and you will have to contact CharlieX for the ECU Tune ($600).

Install will probably run you about $1500 at a shop.

Tr4 · 11-11-2008, 02:40 PM

Id take you up on the nitrous other than Im not trying to go that route haha, kicked it around for a while and decided its not for me.
Also the Katana and BWR both void warranty no? Is a heavier clutch recommended for both also?

Demonized · 11-11-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tr4

Id take you up on the nitrous other than Im not trying to go that route haha, kicked it around for a while and decided its not for me.
Also the Katana and BWR both void warranty no? Is a heavier clutch recommended for both also?

Pretty sure Lotus will void your warranty for looking at the car wrong

But yes, it can "void" your warranty if the warranty problem is caused by the addition of the supercharger.

Tr4 · 11-11-2008, 02:53 PM

Haha I wish they would set out a list of things that will void the warranty. I love the VF SC but not sure if it's worth that much more than the Katana/BWR.

Demonized · 11-11-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tr4

Haha I wish they would set out a list of things that will void the warranty. I love the VF SC but not sure if it's worth that much more than the Katana/BWR.

35 more RWHP, and it's intercooled.

When it's out of customer beta testing that will probably be the one I pick up

Tr4 · 11-11-2008, 03:01 PM

I can live with that much more of a wait lol. Gives me that much more time to get the difference in price i guess

Murix · 11-11-2008, 03:03 PM

If you care about warranty, get the TRD intake, Lotus Sport ECU, and then spend the rest on a good suspension. Buy a set of the LSS wheels to drop some weight and run your AD07's on them. Get a good aggressive alignment.

Matt in Houston · 11-11-2008, 03:11 PM

For what its worth, I had a katana and now I upgraded to the VF kit. The difference is night and day. My car is so evil know I had to change to the black Lotus emblems...

Besides if you get a katana/bwr you might eventually want more power and to safely do that you will probably need an intercooler...and then you'll wish you bought the VF in the first place.

Tr4 · 11-11-2008, 03:20 PM

Thats exactly what I was worrying about. If I made the jump to the katana. then later wanted that much more. I would be stuck without buying the whole new kit.

luxige · 11-11-2008, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonized

I don't have a supercharger myself, but from my understanding;

The BWR Supercharger ($5,200) can be ordered with an PES ECU tune($400), but works with the CharlieX ECU tune($600).

The Katana Supercharger ($4,300) is ordered separately from any tune, and you will have to contact CharlieX for the ECU Tune ($600).

Install will probably run you about $1500 at a shop.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the BWR price of $5200 includes the PES tune.

As to installation costs, one of the nice things about these two kits is that they are pretty easy for a moderately experienced home mechanic to install.

EliseAutoXr · 11-11-2008, 07:23 PM

I just completed the BWR kit w/PES tune, I did it myself with very basic tool set, not bad at all, just for reference I'm a software engineer if that tells you anything... hehe. Very detailed instructions.

xtn · 11-12-2008, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt in Houston

For what its worth, I had a katana and now I upgraded to the VF kit. The difference is night and day. My car is so evil know I had to change to the black Lotus emblems...

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw ! I'm agettin' me sumuhdat rightcheer!

xtn

11-11-2008, 01:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
Tr4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Fort Worth, Tx Posts: 62	Looking for the extra "go" I have a '07 Elise with touring pack. I have the Larini Sports Exhaust System - Sport Style, and a K&N filter but that is it. I have been looking around at different SC's and the Ronin TC but don't have the money to rebuild the engine. What is the easiest, most effective, yet money friendly way to make the extra power to make this the perfect car. Any ideas on which way to go for the power I'm looking for?

11-11-2008, 02:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
Demonized NOT ßANNED! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,546	BWR or Katana superchargers won't require you to rebuild the engine. You could get the N/A chip with the lower cam-change from Charlie I guess? __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Elise, Katana Supercharger, LSS Wheels, 2Bular exhaust & cat, rear panel delete, Cup Airbox, Volt / Oil temp gauge, Ohlins double adjustable coilovers, Dual Oil Coolers, S111 RTD Brace, Moroso Oil Pan, MicroMirror, S111 "V-Force" Harness bar, Manly Engine Mounts, Odyssey PC680 & RLS Bracket, Saikou Michi OCC, CF Scoops, CF Bootlid, CF Front Lip.

11-11-2008, 02:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
xtn McLareghini Bugatterrari Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 6,845	Install a Bullydog PMT. It adds up to 140 HP. xtn __________________ 2006 McLareghini Bugatterrari, Storm Titanium... <mods> installed: air horn, Scroth 4-point ASM harnesses, Sector111 halon extinguisher and mounting bracket, Von Hep exhaust and rear panel delete, Pagid brake pads, red Volks CE28n wheels, Toyo RA-1 tires, Nitron SA coilovers, Sector111 (WorksBell) quick-disconnect steering wheel kit. awaiting installation: Scroth "pull-up" lap belts, Sector111 RTD Brace, Tony's heater bypass mod, and dropped steering rack mounting plates. </mods>

11-11-2008, 02:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
Demonized NOT ßANNED! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,546	I don't have a supercharger myself, but from my understanding; The BWR Supercharger ($5,200) can be ordered with an PES ECU tune($400), but works with the CharlieX ECU tune($600). The Katana Supercharger ($4,300) is ordered separately from any tune, and you will have to contact CharlieX for the ECU Tune ($600). Install will probably run you about $1500 at a shop. __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Elise, Katana Supercharger, LSS Wheels, 2Bular exhaust & cat, rear panel delete, Cup Airbox, Volt / Oil temp gauge, Ohlins double adjustable coilovers, Dual Oil Coolers, S111 RTD Brace, Moroso Oil Pan, MicroMirror, S111 "V-Force" Harness bar, Manly Engine Mounts, Odyssey PC680 & RLS Bracket, Saikou Michi OCC, CF Scoops, CF Bootlid, CF Front Lip.

11-11-2008, 03:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
Matt in Houston New and Improved! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Humble, TX Posts: 564	For what its worth, I had a katana and now I upgraded to the VF kit. The difference is night and day. My car is so evil know I had to change to the black Lotus emblems... Besides if you get a katana/bwr you might eventually want more power and to safely do that you will probably need an intercooler...and then you'll wish you bought the VF in the first place. __________________ 2006 Elise - Chili Red - VF Supercharged and Intercooled Stg 3 - *Custom tuned by CharlieX* - 2.9" Pulley - Walbro 255 - RC 550cc's - Black Badges - Red Inserts - Grey RAC Monolites - Toyo R888's - South Bend SS-TZ - Fidanza Flywheel - FF CF front spoiler - Craftsquare CF Mirrors - Reverie CF Diffuser - 5" 2bular Ultra - PPE 4-1 FI Header w/ Decat - VonHep Rear Panel - Innovate XD-16/LC-1 - Mr.C Radar Mount - Clutch Travel Mod - Shifter Bolt Mod - re-ENFORCER - A/C Panel Mod - Odessey PC625

11-11-2008, 02:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tr4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Fort Worth, Tx Posts: 62	I did a search and couldn't find all the answers (may have searched wrong but oh well) so I decided to put it all in one post so it's easier to read. Pro's/Con's for the Katana vs BWR? Also Charlie does both tunes if Im not mistaken right? If someone could throw out a price to see how much Im looking to spend it would be greatly appreciated.

11-11-2008, 02:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
SweetDaddyD BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 7,644 Images: 2	I'll sell you a nitrous system.

11-11-2008, 02:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tr4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Fort Worth, Tx Posts: 62	Id take you up on the nitrous other than Im not trying to go that route haha, kicked it around for a while and decided its not for me. Also the Katana and BWR both void warranty no? Is a heavier clutch recommended for both also?

11-11-2008, 02:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
Tr4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Fort Worth, Tx Posts: 62	Haha I wish they would set out a list of things that will void the warranty. I love the VF SC but not sure if it's worth that much more than the Katana/BWR.

11-11-2008, 03:01 PM	#11 (permalink)
Tr4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Fort Worth, Tx Posts: 62	I can live with that much more of a wait lol. Gives me that much more time to get the difference in price i guess

11-11-2008, 03:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
Murix Rotary Refugee Join Date: May 2007 Location: Santa Monica Posts: 996 Images: 3	If you care about warranty, get the TRD intake, Lotus Sport ECU, and then spend the rest on a good suspension. Buy a set of the LSS wheels to drop some weight and run your AD07's on them. Get a good aggressive alignment.

11-11-2008, 03:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
Tr4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Fort Worth, Tx Posts: 62	Thats exactly what I was worrying about. If I made the jump to the katana. then later wanted that much more. I would be stuck without buying the whole new kit.

11-11-2008, 07:23 PM	#16 (permalink)
EliseAutoXr Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 120	I just completed the BWR kit w/PES tune, I did it myself with very basic tool set, not bad at all, just for reference I'm a software engineer if that tells you anything... hehe. Very detailed instructions. __________________ Bradley 06 Solar Yellow Elise SM2 14... BWR Supercharger, Pagid Pads. East Tenn Region SCCA

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