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Niceee.
One of the most powerful 2zz's in the world (turbo'd, stroker, etc) is run on the greddy emanage ultimate piggyback ECU: http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=234612 But you should do your car justice and at least run the Hydra standalone ECU, if not the EFI.
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I've got another hybrid solution in mind. It's pretty tough to compare to the celica's ecu as far as piggy back solutions, becuase it's so different in nature (or logic), aditional long term fuel trims, ect. |
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Very cool BR-
The EFI seems like the obvious choice since it sounds like you're going to be tuning thise yourself anyway (or with help of local tuner). You'll have gear controlled boost, post IC IAT, closed loop lambda, and none of the worries that are associated with piggy backs. I'm happy to help get you through the learning curve as well... THe '05 cars in particular are lay-up for the EFI system... Best, Phil
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![]() The old issue is with the idle pertaining to the DBW cars, although that has since been resolved. IT does, however, take some work from what I gather. I haven't done it, but I'm quite certain I could tune the idle on an 06 car. It's just a whole different critter than the 05, which is really easy to dial in... In summary, especialy since you're working with a 05 car (so I can speak from actual experience), I think the EFI would be a no brainer ![]() Best, Phil
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Hmmm...what are your hp goals with your T3/T4 setup? Looks badass so far!
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So far the setup looks good, though I really wanted an equal length header, but this one should be totally functional. |
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04:18 AM....... Bender.... Go to Sleep !!
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I'm in the Netherlands for work and playing around on the internet. So far I’ve downloaded 10 songs and 2 TV Shows, and found what I believe to be the coolest keychain. I really really need to get out and go do something
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So which fan to go with, apparently Forcefeds fan pulls 750cfm, and the only fan I could find that had that flow rate was a 9' fan I was going to go with two of these
5.2" to 7.5" Fans - SPAL 7.5" Straight Blade Pull Fan only rated for 440cfm though. Suggestions, thoughts? |
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I've been down this path and hit the same wall with fans. I suggest ducting air to your IC with shrouds and see how it does- first. Heat soak in traffic is moot, since the car isn't under load while in traffic. Your main concern should be when the car is at load for extended periods of time like at the track or long spirited drives. In which case, you'll have a lot of air flow- perhaps more than what the fans will provide (hopefully more air than 4-800cfms anyway). Furthemore, the fans may inhibit airflow more than help it at speed. It just depends on how much air that side scoop flows at speed and how fast your IC disipates heat. Only way to know is to try it out with and without the fans- and watch for delta T--preferably on a closed course.
Best, Phil
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Damn if that setup works I mine as well keep half the parts from my current turbo setup and just swap em to an Elise lol.
Setup looks nice as hell.. as well. lol
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Carbon Canister...
Are you planning to reattach the Carbon Canister?
I see you capped-off the inlet point at the TB. I removed mine for a few months to determine the performance benefits, but replaced it after realizing my mpg had decreased due to a free-venting system. I left the fuel tank breather line open, so it vented to the atmosphere. I think this caused so much vapor loss that it decreased my mpg. BUT, throttle response was marginally more crisp and the engine seemed more alive in every gear. any thoughts.... -Robert
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awww its not too bad. I only notice it on startup.....I guess because once its fired up the SC whine and exhaust make way more noise.
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Any specs on the engine build? Its not a stock bottom end is it?
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Did you route the tank breather line away from the firewall? -Robert
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