New SC Kit. - Page 13 - LotusTalk

OriginalBlackCi · 07-22-2008, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charliex

the reason they're reputable is because rather than launch it and then fix problems on customer cars, they're changing it before it gets to market.

Blasphemy!!

BrianK · 07-22-2008, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbob

I can think of three possibilities.

a) this company has the Worst Marketing Ever.
b) this company is actually Lotus USA, and Charlie is tuning the 2009 Elise.
c) this company doesn't exist, and Charlie was just kidding about the whole thing.

Choices A and B are not mutually exclusive... in fact, I might say they are one and the same.

Matt in Houston · 07-22-2008, 07:27 PM

The wait..its....killing.......me....

rcodea · 07-23-2008, 12:06 AM

ya, i would love to see how this is all going to play out

Ryan

choi0706 · 07-28-2008, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt in Houston

The wait..its....killing.......me....

same here!!! I'll be in town this weekend too.

Rei · 08-01-2008, 12:31 AM

With all this waiting people are going crazy can we get some sort of idea about the kit???

Noisycow · 08-01-2008, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rei

With all this waiting people are going crazy can we get some sort of idea about the kitt???

Sure - here you go ...

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Amarao · 08-01-2008, 04:31 AM

Is that a hubcap that goes flying at 1:12-13?

...m... · 08-01-2008, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noisycow

Quote:

With all this waiting people are going crazy can we get some sort of idea about the kitt???

Sure - here you go ...

...ohmigosh i should totally install one of those little red cylon lights on my turbobeetle!..every time someone posts to this thread it only teases that the manufacturer's at last gone public...

charliex · 08-01-2008, 10:15 AM

I talked to them yesterday, you might remember that we blew out the stock clutch because it made so much power on a smaller pulley than the kit ships with, and they bought a car to make the kit on rather than use a customers car.

So the car went out to have a new clutch fitted (i believe this was the previous need parts delay) and now its back the idle is sporadic, so again rather than ship it out not knowing why, its on teardown examining every part !

They have 25 SC's sitting on the shelf and the associated parts, thats around $100,000 investment gathering dust, i think its awesome they're doing all this work on making sure its perfect before launched.

i personally think that something happened to a sensor or a vacuum leak when the clutch was replaced by an external shop, i'm going to plug into the car over t'internet on tuesday with our fancy diagostics equipment and take a peek at it with them.

We deal with the choppy idle all the time on these cars, and it usually turns out to be a dirty maf, bad 02 or vacuum leak.
i'm as disappointed as you guys its taken so long, but i'm so happy to see something being done with this much consideration.

once the choppy idle has been diagnosed and repaired (and the car ran perfectly before the clutch change, except for the clutch wear obviously) then it'll either go on sale, or something else wil pop up

so thats all i know so far, i know some people are dying to get it, but i know you don't want to be in the position of a bunch of people with aftermarket kits looking at daily running, or after install problems and fixes.

plastique999 · 08-01-2008, 10:28 AM

sorry, this thread is super long so i'm playing catch up....so there is a new s/c kit out?

I was thinking about Katana....but should I hold out now?

antinym · 08-01-2008, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plastique999

sorry, this thread is super long so i'm playing catch up....so there is a new s/c kit out?

I was thinking about Katana....but should I hold out now?

You should get the Katana, so I have less competition in getting the first batch of these.

Honestly. This kit should make more power, for not much more than the Katana. Read through the thread, we only have preliminary numbers, but it all looks very promising.

plastique999 · 08-01-2008, 11:08 AM

subscribed...

II-soon · 08-01-2008, 11:33 AM

Thanks for the update Charlie!

I have my credit card ready. Looks like I'm going to need a new clutch

Johnny B · 08-01-2008, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plastique999

sorry, this thread is super long so i'm playing catch up....so there is a new s/c kit out?

I was thinking about Katana....but should I hold out now?

It depends. I went with the Katana because I wouldn't need to swap out the clutch for a stronger one.

With this kit and the power it's going to make, you might need to get a better clutch.

If that's not a big deal, then get this kit because it's going to be good.

sleepe · 08-02-2008, 10:45 AM

Are clutch jobs expensive? (labor)

jhnmdahl · 08-02-2008, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepe

Are clutch jobs expensive? (labor)

Yes. It'll probably really take 5-6 hours, and "book" or "shop" time charged seems to be around 7-8 hours. The labor will cost a lot more than the clutch...

John

Bavarian Motorist · 08-02-2008, 11:32 AM

So around $350 for the clutch and perhaps $800 for labor. It's not that bad since clutches are wear items and you'll probably need a new one eventually anyhow.

Never hurts to upgrade, right?

Harbir · 08-02-2008, 11:39 AM

i wonder if the claimed upgraded clutch on the '06 Lotus Sport is strong enough...

Rei · 08-02-2008, 01:35 PM

OS Giken twin plate clutch FTW!! Capable of holding insane amounts of power and comes with a new bespoke flywheel. Mind you engagement will be much harsher the OEM but pedal feel will be the same it will just grab like there is no tomorrow.

07-22-2008, 07:27 PM	#243 (permalink)
Matt in Houston New and Improved! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Humble, TX Posts: 564	The wait..its....killing.......me.... __________________ 2006 Elise - Chili Red - VF Supercharged and Intercooled Stg 3 - *Custom tuned by CharlieX* - 2.9" Pulley - Walbro 255 - RC 550cc's - Black Badges - Red Inserts - Grey RAC Monolites - Toyo R888's - South Bend SS-TZ - Fidanza Flywheel - FF CF front spoiler - Craftsquare CF Mirrors - Reverie CF Diffuser - 5" 2bular Ultra - PPE 4-1 FI Header w/ Decat - VonHep Rear Panel - Innovate XD-16/LC-1 - Mr.C Radar Mount - Clutch Travel Mod - Shifter Bolt Mod - re-ENFORCER - A/C Panel Mod - Odessey PC625

08-01-2008, 12:31 AM	#246 (permalink)
Rei Lotus/TRD Geek Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redmond WA Posts: 623	With all this waiting people are going crazy can we get some sort of idea about the kit??? __________________ Kids in the Back seat causes Accidents Accidents in the Back Seat causes Kids Moral Stick with a Two Seater

08-01-2008, 10:15 AM	#250 (permalink)
charliex OSX Black hat Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas , NV Posts: 9,935	I talked to them yesterday, you might remember that we blew out the stock clutch because it made so much power on a smaller pulley than the kit ships with, and they bought a car to make the kit on rather than use a customers car. So the car went out to have a new clutch fitted (i believe this was the previous need parts delay) and now its back the idle is sporadic, so again rather than ship it out not knowing why, its on teardown examining every part ! They have 25 SC's sitting on the shelf and the associated parts, thats around $100,000 investment gathering dust, i think its awesome they're doing all this work on making sure its perfect before launched. i personally think that something happened to a sensor or a vacuum leak when the clutch was replaced by an external shop, i'm going to plug into the car over t'internet on tuesday with our fancy diagostics equipment and take a peek at it with them. We deal with the choppy idle all the time on these cars, and it usually turns out to be a dirty maf, bad 02 or vacuum leak. i'm as disappointed as you guys its taken so long, but i'm so happy to see something being done with this much consideration. once the choppy idle has been diagnosed and repaired (and the car ran perfectly before the clutch change, except for the clutch wear obviously) then it'll either go on sale, or something else wil pop up so thats all i know so far, i know some people are dying to get it, but i know you don't want to be in the position of a bunch of people with aftermarket kits looking at daily running, or after install problems and fixes. __________________ Black Exige S - http://goth.am 265 Mule / Elan M100.ECU Tuning, http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39660 West Coast Lotus Meet - Las Vegas - November 6-9 2009 http://www.westcoastlotus.com/

08-01-2008, 10:28 AM	#251 (permalink)
plastique999 Form and Function Join Date: May 2008 Location: Alta Loma, CA Posts: 3,029	sorry, this thread is super long so i'm playing catch up....so there is a new s/c kit out? I was thinking about Katana....but should I hold out now? __________________ www.FaceNBody.com 2005 Lotus Elise: 2bular decat\GT3 exhaust,HID's,turn signal&rear fins delete, CFside scoops, CFbinnacle,CFcenter console,Zoom CF mirror,APR Aero kit,CF 5-elem. diffuser,Exige mesh,Ohlins DA,RTD brace,RAC 'lites,Toyo R888's,HawkHT10's,CO painted calipers,SS lines,Reverie XC CF seat,Reverie CF steering wheel,Schroth Profi II 6 pt harness,shifter re-Enforcer,Manly mounts, Accusump,Moroso pan,BWR key to BWR S/C! Spec Racer Ford #237

08-01-2008, 11:08 AM	#253 (permalink)
plastique999 Form and Function Join Date: May 2008 Location: Alta Loma, CA Posts: 3,029	subscribed... __________________ www.FaceNBody.com 2005 Lotus Elise: 2bular decat\GT3 exhaust,HID's,turn signal&rear fins delete, CFside scoops, CFbinnacle,CFcenter console,Zoom CF mirror,APR Aero kit,CF 5-elem. diffuser,Exige mesh,Ohlins DA,RTD brace,RAC 'lites,Toyo R888's,HawkHT10's,CO painted calipers,SS lines,Reverie XC CF seat,Reverie CF steering wheel,Schroth Profi II 6 pt harness,shifter re-Enforcer,Manly mounts, Accusump,Moroso pan,BWR key to BWR S/C! Spec Racer Ford #237

07-23-2008, 12:06 AM	#244 (permalink)
rcodea Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 4	ya, i would love to see how this is all going to play out Ryan

08-01-2008, 04:31 AM	#248 (permalink)
Amarao Hoon Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,415	Is that a hubcap that goes flying at 1:12-13?

08-01-2008, 11:33 AM	#254 (permalink)
II-soon Sometimes not soon enough Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Socal Posts: 357	Thanks for the update Charlie! I have my credit card ready. Looks like I'm going to need a new clutch

08-02-2008, 10:45 AM	#256 (permalink)
sleepe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 1,040	Are clutch jobs expensive? (labor) __________________ Elise'06ST:[size="1"]RAC/r888-Ultradiscs-Larini 8"-Braille-Saikou Michi-Nitron sportpro-RTVbrace-widened undertrays-VF2-manly's inserts-engine damper

08-02-2008, 11:32 AM	#258 (permalink)
Bavarian Motorist Live to Drive Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC/Westchester, NY Posts: 10,850	So around $350 for the clutch and perhaps $800 for labor. It's not that bad since clutches are wear items and you'll probably need a new one eventually anyhow. Never hurts to upgrade, right? __________________ Be an alpha male. Drive a Lotus.

08-02-2008, 11:39 AM	#259 (permalink)
Harbir Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 180	i wonder if the claimed upgraded clutch on the '06 Lotus Sport is strong enough...

08-02-2008, 01:35 PM	#260 (permalink)
Rei Lotus/TRD Geek Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redmond WA Posts: 623	OS Giken twin plate clutch FTW!! Capable of holding insane amounts of power and comes with a new bespoke flywheel. Mind you engagement will be much harsher the OEM but pedal feel will be the same it will just grab like there is no tomorrow. __________________ Kids in the Back seat causes Accidents Accidents in the Back Seat causes Kids Moral Stick with a Two Seater

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