New SC Kit.

[SpecRaceM5]

Originally Posted by The Stig

Biatch please!... I've walked more miles than your Lotus. My Spyder lived and died and your car is still on the rack... WTF?

[gameson]

I guess the price is not installed, right?

[andrewgotanelise]

soo tempting. funny though apparently a stock bwr with a forcedfed 4 - 1 shorty headers have about the same gains.

[chuck_risen]

Looks good so far.

Are you looking to add a more aggressive tune to this eventually or have an upgrade path of some sort?

[charliex]

Yeah that tune i posted is conservative, its also on a dyno i don't know the calibration of , however when we switched the pulley to a slightly smaller one the clutch couldn't take it, couldn't even do one run, so keep that in mind.

[Jean-Paul]

is this a DIY kit as well? i wanted to buy either katana or bwr kit. for bwr I heared they know nothing about ecu's and katana has the "problem" with greddy. however, i would go with katana afterall because of you Charlie X, cause i heard a lot of good stuff about you and the ecu thing.

now this kit comes out. should i wait .... what do you think ?

p.s.you have an msn invitation by me....

thank you

[The Stig]

Originally Posted by gameson

I guess the price is not installed, right?

[UKphil]

Charlie,

As my Mother used to say -
"You're a little buggeroo"

As you know - I was just about to buy a different kit - now I have to rethink.

Are the A/C delete issues the same?

Is there any reason I shouldn't go for this rather than A N Other alternative from A Well Known Supplier?

By which I mean any likely reliability issues associated with the (slightly) higher power.
I'm not into "ultimate performance" if I end up chasing reliability with new engine mounts/clutches etc. etc.

PM me if you need to be "diplomatic"...

[charliex]

The kit can be self installed.
If the AC is missing then it'd need a different belt at the least
Its from a decent sized company thats been in business quite a while.

The higher performance comes from the boost and intercooler, and i didn't advance the timing at all, so its not running on the bleeding edge at all.

[UKphil]

That's bleeding fine then

[®ob]

Intercooled kit without requiring clam hacking...nice...
This could push me over the edge.

[Mr. Oz]

Is this compatible with the Katana? Does the price include the reflash?

[charliex]

Yes it is, and yes it does.

[LordZ]

Got a waiting list yet?

[fzust]

Originally Posted by charliex

The kit can be self installed.
If the AC is missing then it'd need a different belt at the least
Its from a decent sized company thats been in business quite a while.

The higher performance comes from the boost and intercooler, and i didn't advance the timing at all, so its not running on the bleeding edge at all.

Did you reduce timing with the higher boost or just hold the same timing at higher boost?

[charliex]

Originally Posted by fzust

Did you reduce timing with the higher boost or just hold the same timing at higher boost?

If you mean between pulley changes, yes I did, but the differences were just so violent, the dyno sheets i posted i am reasonably sure are from a dyno that reads low too. Timing wasn't the issue it was just too much torque, there wasn't any point in increasing the boost, and dropping the torque via a decrease in spark advance. The torque on the DynaPack was up in the 195-200 ft/lbs area.

I'll add the DynaPack ones here, which I think read high, however the results on the road and what happened to the clutch at 6000RPM-ish with a bit of extra boost seem to put them somewhere inbetween the two, i'll know better when i get the car on one of the dyno's i've used before.

[charliex]

Thats the dyno sheet *before* the pulley change.

[MitchT]

I mean what was the point to spend 5-7 grand for 20-30 hp, now 265hp, that is a 75 hp gain. Good job.

[fpitas]

Originally Posted by andrewgotanelise

soo tempting. funny though apparently a stock bwr with a forcedfed 4 - 1 shorty headers have about the same gains.

I imagine the shorty header will help this setup, too.

[Jack]

Originally Posted by MitchT

I mean what was the point to spend 5-7 grand for 20-30 hp, now 265hp, that is a 75 hp gain. Good job.

I believe you are comparing RWHP #'s to Flywheel HP, if I'm reading the heading on the dyno graphs correctly. Didn't those charts say fly wheel HP? BTW, I don't know how that dyno can accurately measure fly wheel HP but that's besides the point, unless all it's doing is applying a drive train loss % to the RWHP #'s ??

In any event, Charlie is the MAN with the magic tuning fingers. Good job, Sir Charles.