Ronin 4.5 Turbo Build - Page 7 - LotusTalk

charliex · 10-06-2008, 06:40 PM

The dip is really only visible on the dyno, the dynapacks setup shows things very pronounced which is a good thing for tuning, you don't feel it on the road at all.

But ultimately we ran out of daylight/time on the dynapack, they all wanted to go home.

Bender Rodríguez · 10-07-2008, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fzust

Wow, nice dyno queen.

Is that term meant to have a negative connotation? If so I think that may be a little unfair.

2-Y-CHROMOSOMES · 10-07-2008, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bender Rodríguez

Is that term meant to have a negative connotation? If so I think that may be a little unfair.

I think that was a friendly jab. but what do I know.

sleeprfocus · 10-07-2008, 10:55 PM

That's incredulous power for the Lotus. I heard Frank's running 25 psi for this power, just insane amount of boost. Hope to see this beast on the road.

MaineLotus · 10-09-2008, 06:22 AM

I think 20psi. A video of Frank's beast in the canyons...

YouTube - Lotus Exige Ronin Turbo

ZJChaser · 10-09-2008, 08:35 PM

I believe he was running 25 psi and is around 19psi now for more "mellow" street driving.

I just got home from Franks place after taking a ride in this beast! Holy hell!

Very minimal turbo lag(far less than I was expecting with a turbo that size on that motor) and its just a rocket ship....Buttery smooth idle, partial throttle and tip in are super smooth. Instant response when you are already up in the revs. Next to no lag on shifts. Oh ya and a stupid crazy amount of power.

John I hope you realize what you are in for

25psi_Elise_Killer · 10-10-2008, 08:16 AM

any charts of the boost plot? Just curious how well it can maintain boost.

ZJChaser · 10-10-2008, 07:20 PM

naw, no boost maps sorry. He did turn the boost down to 21 psi now though. Not sure where the dyno was run at but I know it was higher

new video:

YouTube - Lotus exige Ronin Turbo drive...

kaz · 10-10-2008, 11:45 PM

it's like...video sped up, makes everyone's quest for 240rwhp, 250...275 seem...very different lol. Sounds amazing, the whole install looks amazing what an insane machine -

GTsRasta · 10-11-2008, 01:42 PM

I'm not noticing you guys got the power bug too...nice haha.

Does this build have custom cams or stock cams? I assumed you guys would have a cam profile meant to amp up the midrange after this 7098787698769876 womb opening of his Lotus for such a big power turbo...

charliex · 10-12-2008, 09:39 AM

stock cams.

ZTEC · 10-15-2008, 08:15 PM

After reading this quote from Knucklehead, I might be making a trip out sooner than I thought for a ride in Franks beastie Canyon Carver~
Los Angeles Sunday Drive - meet @8:30AM / Leave @9:00AM [PART 2]

Quote:

Originally Posted by knucklehead

Frank/Ronin came out today. I figured I needed to see just how fast 459hpw in an Lotus is. So I left my car at the Coffee Bean and jumped in the Ronin. Uh it's fast. Like really fast. The only other car that I've ridden in that's comparable is Randy's Noble. To be honest I wouldn't want to bet which is faster. Frank's cars a really well sorted out as far as suspension and both really get up and go. For the canyons I really wonder if there's a lot of unusable power. But the torque was amazing. The pull even in forth gear was incredible. I can't wait for Frank to get his bigger wheels to see if he can make more use of the power. I thought the turbo kick would be too violent and dangerous for the canyons, but it was really smooth. He's repainted his pink wheels, so that was a good thing too.

Randy Chase · 10-15-2008, 08:20 PM

Hey, I never floored the car with Jacob in it.

That was only half throttle.

ZTEC · 10-15-2008, 08:27 PM

Ha, I heard Franks foot was on the brake pedal and not the gas

Randy Chase · 10-15-2008, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZTEC

Ha, I heard Franks foot was on the brake pedal and not the gas

That would explain the track times.

camshaft · 10-30-2008, 11:11 AM

Was max power the overall goal of the build? The peak is very impressive, but given that it's only making 50whp at 3k rpm, I would have thought a smaller turbo would give a more usable power band?

Rich air,
Austin

MaineLotus · 10-30-2008, 11:55 AM

Goal was power in the range when the car is driven hard, mid to upper RPMs. Turbo sizing is a compromise, small turbos spool faster but run out of room higher up.

turbophil · 10-30-2008, 12:02 PM

Hey John,

Are you up and running? I'm doing engine assembly this weekend and was thinking of you as I was ordering more parts from MWR today...

Cheers,

Phil

MaineLotus · 10-30-2008, 12:29 PM

Hey Phil,

Very close... I ordered some additional parts today for deliver tommorrow. Work has been hectic the last month and progress on other things slow. The hard part is done, only a few tedious details remain. Yah know, the primary reason for the lag is me. I find things that I think can be better and can't resist taking more apart and tinkering. I didn't like the hose and harness routing in the engine bay and cockpit and removed all of it. The harness now routes though the center of the firewall instead of the corner behind the driver's seat (odd that Lotus did this). Dremeled off the two engine lid mounting points and glassed over. Removed the silly plastic firewall cover behind the seats and covered the firewall in black Alcantara. Moved the electronics to the other side of the firewalll (cockpit side) and mounted on a CF panel along with a battery cutoff switch. Removed the black 'rug' material in the engine compartment and replaced with ThermoTec material. Removed, drilled out the center and machined the diameter of my B&M shifter, it's now gated, as soon as I have time to reassemble it. Hmm, what am I forgetting? This car is a sickness!

knucklehead · 10-30-2008, 12:50 PM

pics please

10-06-2008, 06:40 PM	#121 (permalink)
charliex OSX Black hat Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas , NV Posts: 9,935	The dip is really only visible on the dyno, the dynapacks setup shows things very pronounced which is a good thing for tuning, you don't feel it on the road at all. But ultimately we ran out of daylight/time on the dynapack, they all wanted to go home. __________________ Black Exige S - http://goth.am 265 Mule / Elan M100.ECU Tuning, http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39660 West Coast Lotus Meet - Las Vegas - November 6-9 2009 http://www.westcoastlotus.com/

10-07-2008, 10:55 PM	#124 (permalink)
sleeprfocus Every Car is a Project Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 817	That's incredulous power for the Lotus. I heard Frank's running 25 psi for this power, just insane amount of boost. Hope to see this beast on the road. __________________ 2005 Lotus Elise (Jet Blue Metallic) - ForcedFed 340 2002 Ford Focus SVT (Pitch Black) - Powered by 4.6L of V8 goodness

10-09-2008, 08:35 PM	#126 (permalink)
ZJChaser Blue Wheel Pimp Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Laguna Hills, CA Posts: 2,851	I believe he was running 25 psi and is around 19psi now for more "mellow" street driving. I just got home from Franks place after taking a ride in this beast! Holy hell! Very minimal turbo lag(far less than I was expecting with a turbo that size on that motor) and its just a rocket ship....Buttery smooth idle, partial throttle and tip in are super smooth. Instant response when you are already up in the revs. Next to no lag on shifts. Oh ya and a stupid crazy amount of power. John I hope you realize what you are in for __________________ AJ - Akua Solutions - #128 Lotus Exige - JRZ Suspension - Innovative Mounts - Toyo Tires - TW Research Development

10-10-2008, 08:16 AM	#127 (permalink)
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10-10-2008, 11:45 PM	#129 (permalink)
kaz JabStrongFierce Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Downtown LA + SF Posts: 2,420	it's like...video sped up, makes everyone's quest for 240rwhp, 250...275 seem...very different lol. Sounds amazing, the whole install looks amazing what an insane machine - __________________ 2006 Elise : JFG \| Nitrons \| 2bular 8" Single \| Reverie diffuser and misc. carbon bits \| Tripoint Engineering W/A Intercooler \| Ronin supercharger \| DRS EFI and tuning

10-12-2008, 09:39 AM	#131 (permalink)
charliex OSX Black hat Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas , NV Posts: 9,935	stock cams. __________________ Black Exige S - http://goth.am 265 Mule / Elan M100.ECU Tuning, http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39660 West Coast Lotus Meet - Las Vegas - November 6-9 2009 http://www.westcoastlotus.com/

10-15-2008, 08:20 PM	#133 (permalink)
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10-15-2008, 08:27 PM	#134 (permalink)
ZTEC Third Eye Open Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 1,737 Images: 3	Ha, I heard Franks foot was on the brake pedal and not the gas __________________ GO: Vision Function Stage II Intercooled Bliss with Charlie's ECU magic and Ronin's Tenacity! STOP: DBA 4000's, Porterfield R4! TURN: Nitron S/A's Toyo RA1's 225/245 on Rota's!

10-30-2008, 11:11 AM	#136 (permalink)
camshaft Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8	Was max power the overall goal of the build? The peak is very impressive, but given that it's only making 50whp at 3k rpm, I would have thought a smaller turbo would give a more usable power band? Rich air, Austin

10-30-2008, 11:55 AM	#137 (permalink)
MaineLotus Parts scattered about... Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Maine Posts: 1,385	Goal was power in the range when the car is driven hard, mid to upper RPMs. Turbo sizing is a compromise, small turbos spool faster but run out of room higher up. __________________ My car is modified.

10-30-2008, 12:02 PM	#138 (permalink)
turbophil Plug Whisperer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kansas City/ Overland Park Posts: 2,544 Images: 6	Hey John, Are you up and running? I'm doing engine assembly this weekend and was thinking of you as I was ordering more parts from MWR today... Cheers, Phil __________________ \| '05 GG LSS Elise \| A Track Chariot \| BOE ClamHinge \| BOE TVS SuperCharger 280whp/180wtq \| EFI Standalone Engine Management \| BOE Fuel Surge System \| BOE Lotus Tow Package See my car at BOE Fabrication: www.boefabrication.com *----->Last Updated: 9/25/2009* If something ain't worth doing right, it ain't worth doing... *Whoever thought working on a Lotus is hard, clearly hasn't tried it. Pick up a wrench and get some grease under your nails*

10-30-2008, 12:29 PM	#139 (permalink)
MaineLotus Parts scattered about... Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Maine Posts: 1,385	Hey Phil, Very close... I ordered some additional parts today for deliver tommorrow. Work has been hectic the last month and progress on other things slow. The hard part is done, only a few tedious details remain. Yah know, the primary reason for the lag is me. I find things that I think can be better and can't resist taking more apart and tinkering. I didn't like the hose and harness routing in the engine bay and cockpit and removed all of it. The harness now routes though the center of the firewall instead of the corner behind the driver's seat (odd that Lotus did this). Dremeled off the two engine lid mounting points and glassed over. Removed the silly plastic firewall cover behind the seats and covered the firewall in black Alcantara. Moved the electronics to the other side of the firewalll (cockpit side) and mounted on a CF panel along with a battery cutoff switch. Removed the black 'rug' material in the engine compartment and replaced with ThermoTec material. Removed, drilled out the center and machined the diameter of my B&M shifter, it's now gated, as soon as I have time to reassemble it. Hmm, what am I forgetting? This car is a sickness! __________________ My car is modified.

10-30-2008, 12:50 PM	#140 (permalink)
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