Supercharged with Laminova A2W Intercooler - LotusTalk

GetBoost · 05-18-2009, 12:04 AM

Here's a supercharger setup that I've made, using an air-to-water Laminova intercooler integrated into the intake manifold. I took this approach to minimize the air volume after the supercharger, in order to reduce pressure drop. As you can see, it's a very tight fit. The front and rear engine mount has been filled with polyurethane, so while the IC is close to the firewall, it does not make contact.

The project began as a Tri-Point/Greddy SC kit, which nothing now is being used except for the MP62. The "swan neck" in front comes from the Exige-S supercharger. Everything else is custom fabricated.

The 4 long-core Laminova IC sits on top of the MP62, which blows at an angle to the surge tank and back down again through the short runners. The 6 plugs on top are "access ports", so I can bolt the manifold to the Laminova core. The 4 smaller plugs are for Aquamist water injection - should the need arise.

The oil catch can isn't hooked up yet.

GetBoost · 05-18-2009, 12:11 AM

The tiny intercooler reservoir sits on the right side, along with the heat exchanger. Cold air is pulled from the side vent up using a SPAL fan. The Jabsco Cyclone sits beneath. Again, very tight fit.

GetBoost · 05-18-2009, 12:28 AM

Injectors are 550cc. Supercharger pulley is 3.1" and making about 8psi after IC. I'm running EFI standalone and TurboPhil's map. Car's been running great, pulls very well. I'm still tinkering with the tune - though it seems like I'm spending more time figuring out how to use the Dash2 and DL1.

I would like to thank Phil (BOE Fabrication) for all his help in with the EFI tuning. I wouldn't be up and running now if it wasn't for him.

Dragon · 05-18-2009, 02:57 AM

That is a really nice set up... I love original fabricated parts, especially when they serve a purpose like this... Much respect for the time and work you put in to this.

Now go out and beat the crap out of it..

Westrock · 05-18-2009, 05:14 AM

Move along folks, nothing to see here but some really cool ingenuity and custom work

jim-clayton · 05-18-2009, 06:10 AM

Very nice, way to go.

fzust · 05-18-2009, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon

That is a really nice set up... I love original fabricated parts, especially when they serve a purpose like this... Much respect for the time and work you put in to this.

Now go out and beat the crap out of it..

+1

turbophil · 05-18-2009, 06:33 AM

Very cool, my friend. It still amazes me that you got all that packaged into such a small area

Best,

Phil

shay2nak · 05-18-2009, 08:50 PM

nice work.

sleepe · 05-18-2009, 09:03 PM

post this on monkeytuner if you want more technical feedback...no offense to LT, but most guys on here are like me...don't know much about what REALLY works for our cars

like the color matching and especially the welds.

GetBoost · 05-19-2009, 09:23 AM

Thanks for the feedback. I'm making sure everything in order first, then I'll take it to a dyno for the fine tuning. Then it'll be

I do have a post of this on MM.

antinym · 05-19-2009, 10:16 AM

excellent work. I think you need some hose clamps, though.

zygotesoup · 05-19-2009, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbophil

It still amazes me that you got all that packaged into such a small area

thats what she said

jesterbot · 05-19-2009, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zygotesoup

thats what she said

shay2nak · 05-19-2009, 01:30 PM

King Missile

ggelise · 05-29-2009, 08:57 PM

Very cool...... any idea on charge temps? Very impressive!

FIL · 05-29-2009, 09:02 PM

Very very nice. Wish I had the time, money, and ability to do that!

Any idea on WHP#s?

GetBoost · 06-01-2009, 12:15 AM

Some of the pics without the hose clamps are before I completed the setup. I now have the oil catch can hooked up as well.

No idea on the RWHP. Charge temp max at 130F so far, but I haven't pushed it hard enough to see how it is with extended runs.

I'm sending my Dash2/DL1 back to mfg for diagnostic, so I'm flying blind at the moment.

GetBoost · 06-01-2009, 12:33 AM

For those not familiar with Laminovas, here's how they look on the inside. Much different design than traditional ICs, the fins are very dense and not much light can pass through. Water flows through the inside of the cores.

Ryephile · 07-05-2009, 06:29 PM

I just saw this thread; wow very nice work! It would be great to see some IAT and boost datalogging with dyno pulls.

Did you start with the Greddy intake manifold and cut it down?

Cheers,
Ryan

05-18-2009, 12:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
GetBoost Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 139	Supercharged with Laminova A2W Intercooler Here's a supercharger setup that I've made, using an air-to-water Laminova intercooler integrated into the intake manifold. I took this approach to minimize the air volume after the supercharger, in order to reduce pressure drop. As you can see, it's a very tight fit. The front and rear engine mount has been filled with polyurethane, so while the IC is close to the firewall, it does not make contact. The project began as a Tri-Point/Greddy SC kit, which nothing now is being used except for the MP62. The "swan neck" in front comes from the Exige-S supercharger. Everything else is custom fabricated. The 4 long-core Laminova IC sits on top of the MP62, which blows at an angle to the surge tank and back down again through the short runners. The 6 plugs on top are "access ports", so I can bolt the manifold to the Laminova core. The 4 smaller plugs are for Aquamist water injection - should the need arise. The oil catch can isn't hooked up yet. Attached Images

05-18-2009, 12:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
GetBoost Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 139	The tiny intercooler reservoir sits on the right side, along with the heat exchanger. Cold air is pulled from the side vent up using a SPAL fan. The Jabsco Cyclone sits beneath. Again, very tight fit. Attached Images

05-18-2009, 02:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
Dragon Hydrocarbons Rule Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Okinawa Japan Posts: 1,748 Images: 2	That is a really nice set up... I love original fabricated parts, especially when they serve a purpose like this... Much respect for the time and work you put in to this. Now go out and beat the crap out of it.. __________________ 2006 Exige; BWR Supercharger, Adj Sway Bar, Ohlins Suspension, BSK Oil Catch Can, Moroso Oil Pan, ORC Clutch, Custom Exhaust, Black Volk Racing CE28N's w/ Toyo R1R's, 2 piece rotors, Pagid Blue Pads, BSK Wet Carbon (Side Skirts, Front Lip Spoiler, Gas Cap Cover, Center Console, Door Panels), Dry Carbon rear Diffuser, Harness Bar, BWR Gauge Mount, OMP Superquadro steering wheel, LETSLA Short Shifter, V2arms, Rear Tow Link Brace, RLS Battery Bracket, BOE Tow Bar, Stickers.

05-18-2009, 05:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
Westrock Haxord but mine Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 1,340	Move along folks, nothing to see here but some really cool ingenuity and custom work __________________ -David 2006 Storm Ti Exige + VF Stage 2 Vision Function Supercharger Install Thread Stereo Harness Info \| Exige with no wing??

05-18-2009, 06:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
jim-clayton Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Lauderdale Florida Posts: 1,634	Very nice, way to go. __________________ 2005 Elise Storm Titanium

05-18-2009, 12:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
GetBoost Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 139	Injectors are 550cc. Supercharger pulley is 3.1" and making about 8psi after IC. I'm running EFI standalone and TurboPhil's map. Car's been running great, pulls very well. I'm still tinkering with the tune - though it seems like I'm spending more time figuring out how to use the Dash2 and DL1. I would like to thank Phil (BOE Fabrication) for all his help in with the EFI tuning. I wouldn't be up and running now if it wasn't for him.

05-18-2009, 06:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
turbophil Plug Whisperer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kansas City/ Overland Park Posts: 2,545 Images: 6	Very cool, my friend. It still amazes me that you got all that packaged into such a small area Best, Phil __________________ \| '05 GG LSS Elise \| A Track Chariot \| BOE ClamHinge \| BOE TVS SuperCharger 280whp/180wtq \| EFI Standalone Engine Management \| BOE Fuel Surge System \| BOE Lotus Tow Package See my car at BOE Fabrication: www.boefabrication.com *----->Last Updated: 9/25/2009* If something ain't worth doing right, it ain't worth doing... *Whoever thought working on a Lotus is hard, clearly hasn't tried it. Pick up a wrench and get some grease under your nails*

05-18-2009, 08:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
shay2nak I <3 chicken, I <3 liver Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Land of da 1000 Oaks, CA Posts: 15,059	nice work. __________________ save ~10 lbs gain 1 hp EQ: Y=(190X) / (1984-X) where Y is (HP) and X is (lbs) '07 EXIGE S * MY CAR ** VIDEOS! '08 ACURA TSX 6-speed http://www.makeNYNYagain.com

05-18-2009, 09:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
sleepe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 1,050	post this on monkeytuner if you want more technical feedback...no offense to LT, but most guys on here are like me...don't know much about what REALLY works for our cars like the color matching and especially the welds. __________________ Elise'06ST:RAC/r888-Ultradiscs-Larini 8"-Braille-Saikou Michi cans-Nitron sportpro-RTVbrace-widened undertrays-manly's motor inserts-FF engine damper VF2

05-19-2009, 09:23 AM	#11 (permalink)
GetBoost Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 139	Thanks for the feedback. I'm making sure everything in order first, then I'll take it to a dyno for the fine tuning. Then it'll be I do have a post of this on MM.

05-19-2009, 10:16 AM	#12 (permalink)
antinym The Doombringer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 656	excellent work. I think you need some hose clamps, though.

05-19-2009, 01:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
shay2nak I <3 chicken, I <3 liver Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Land of da 1000 Oaks, CA Posts: 15,059	King Missile __________________ save ~10 lbs gain 1 hp EQ: Y=(190X) / (1984-X) where Y is (HP) and X is (lbs) '07 EXIGE S * MY CAR ** VIDEOS! '08 ACURA TSX 6-speed http://www.makeNYNYagain.com

05-29-2009, 08:57 PM	#16 (permalink)
ggelise Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 194	Very cool...... any idea on charge temps? Very impressive!

05-29-2009, 09:02 PM	#17 (permalink)
FIL Serial Thrilla Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 236	Very very nice. Wish I had the time, money, and ability to do that! Any idea on WHP#s? __________________ 05' Elise - BWR supercharger, Quaife LSD, Nitron Race Triple Adjustable, LETSLA, Larini Decat, Larini Exhuast, ACT HDSS, Fidanza flywheel, V2 Fuel Tank, V2 Steering Arms, BWR sway bar, desnorkled, ForcedFed CF splitter, Manly's engine mounts, S111 harness bar, Schroth harness w/ S111 seat grommets, Oil Drain Valve, Painted Black Diffuser, Braille battery, Custom Battery Switch 05' Corvette - Z51 Convertible - 630hp 6.6L [DON'T YOU JUDGE ME!!!] (SOLD!)

06-01-2009, 12:15 AM	#18 (permalink)
GetBoost Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 139	Some of the pics without the hose clamps are before I completed the setup. I now have the oil catch can hooked up as well. No idea on the RWHP. Charge temp max at 130F so far, but I haven't pushed it hard enough to see how it is with extended runs. I'm sending my Dash2/DL1 back to mfg for diagnostic, so I'm flying blind at the moment.

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06-01-2009, 12:33 AM	#19 (permalink)
GetBoost Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 139	For those not familiar with Laminovas, here's how they look on the inside. Much different design than traditional ICs, the fins are very dense and not much light can pass through. Water flows through the inside of the cores. Attached Images

07-05-2009, 06:29 PM	#20 (permalink)
Ryephile Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 65 Images: 29	I just saw this thread; wow very nice work! It would be great to see some IAT and boost datalogging with dyno pulls. Did you start with the Greddy intake manifold and cut it down? Cheers, Ryan __________________ \| \| "Wisdom is not a function of age, it is a function of experience."