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Crazy Car Guy
Join Date: Apr 2008
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![]() Vision Function would like to Introduce our Elise Intercooled Supercharger Kit. We have been developing this project for roughly 2 years at this point. Over the past year we have have been in contact with CharlieX who is the man for Tuning these monsters. At this point we are millimeters close to launching a product that should satisfy our joint efforts to make this the best kit possible. Tremendous head room was put into this kit to offer this like a race configuration at a bit higher boost pressure and added injector capacity. As our base kit stands we can easily make 100+ whp over a stock elise with our 7.5 psi kit without being tuned on the ragged edge. To me this is great thing, headroom and upgradeability makes for an ideal modification. The kit includes: • MP62 Supercharger • Bar and Plate Air-to-Air Intercooler • Custom designed Intake Manifold • CharlieX Reflashed ECU MP62 ![]() We use the venerable MP62 supercharger. Same unit as GM uses for it's factory Forced Induction Ecotec engines. This model supercharger provides us with exceptional performance in reasonable packaging. Our base kits is uses a 3.2 inch pulley that allows us to make 7 psi in the intake manifold. This is more than enough boost pressure to give you an additional 100 horsepower on tap. In order to make the supercharger as efficient as possible we designed a cast supercharger inlet and outlet with SolidWorks and a fluid flow simulation program called CosmosFlowWorks. The outcome was staggering numbers which really show up on the dyno numbers and the road performance of the Supercharger kit. ![]() ![]() ![]() Dyno Stock vs. Intercooled Elise SC Kit Dpack ![]() Dynojet Comparison ![]() Intercooler ![]() The dyno plot tells you all you need to know about performance: What it doesn‘t tell you is how we do it and how we make this power while maintaining reliability. The secret: Cooler intake temperatures. Cooler intake temperatures mean a denser intake charge and a denser intake charge means a larger mass of air in the combustion chamber at any given boost level. More air means more horsepower (with the proper control of fuel and ignition timing, of course). Cooler intake temps have the added benefit of reducing the risk of engine damaging detonation. Injectors ![]() The injectors of choice are RC Engineering 440cc Injectors. At our 7 psi we are have complete control of AFR all the way up until our 8500 rpm rev limit. These injectors work well with our kit allowing you to have a very smooth idle quality and superb fuel control throughout the power band. Charlie X Custom ECU Reflash Upon conception of our Supercharger Kit, we sought the best Engine Management Solution and now we have a great working relationship with CharlieX. Together we have spent countless hours of dialing in the Fuel Map, Ignition Map, Variable Cam Timing Map, etc. After long days and some nights of tuning the car really seemed happiest at about 13.0 afr on the small cam, then at peak torque on the large cam 12.5 afr at peak torque and 11.9 afr at Peak Power. While running it slightly richer than usual we did lose some horsepower but what we gained was reliable as a richer AFR gives you better in cylinder cooling. Simply said less heat less stress! We use our in house Dynapack Dynometer, in the load based tuning mode. This is great R&D tool to dial the car in properly with its steady state rpm tuning and load ability. Some of the great names in the automotive industry use this dyno like Nascar, TRD, MINE'S those are just a few to start. As a teaser when we did switch over to the 2.9 pulley we immediately melted the clutch on our vehicle and it ended our Tuning session with Charlie. :-) I think Charlie referred to this as the Face Melter! We will be playing with that one again... I just wanted to get a central location for some questions and info regarding the kit. We have few Beta customers who will be installing our kits and making the switch from another non intercooled kit that is on the market as well. We plan to offer a package for these vehicle too. I will be posting install pictures throughout the week. Stay Tuned! ![]() Jermaine@VisionFunction.com Site is still under construction! ![]() Last edited by Jermaine@VF : 09-08-2008 at 10:13 AM. Reason: English!, Dynoject Comparison Added! |
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Mods are good for you
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ohio
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Looking forward to the installed pics...very nice. You're in good hands with Charlie's tuning
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Mod Maniac: '05 SY - Supercharged (3.2") TVS soon! . EFI Engine Management . ACT HD Clutch . FF Cold Air . Center Fed Fuel Rail . Catch Cans . PPE FI Headers w/ 2Bular 6" . FF Damper . Ported Throttle Body . Black LSS . Braille 9.5lb B129 . Boot Lid Pin . LED Tail Lights . CF Console . CF A/C Surround . CF Diffuser . FF Half Lip Spoiler . Custom Gut Wing . B&M Shifter . Painted Stripes . Rubbertite Mats/Buttons . S111 Booty. HIDs . LED Lighting . VonHep Dash Bag . Tinted Glass . Tesprit Mirror Last edited by Dave : 09-08-2008 at 09:47 AM. |
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Form and Function
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Diamond Bar, CA
Posts: 1,364
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$$$?
as I was just about to pull the trigger on Katana...comparisons?
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www.FaceNBody.com 2005 Lotus Elise: Larini SE exhaust,HID's,turn signals delete,rear fins delete, CFside scoops, CFbinnacle,CFcenter console,Zoom CF mirror,Gut Aero wing,Gut front splitter,CF 5-element diffusor,Exige mesh, Ohlins DA,RAC monolites,Toyo R888's,Pagid RS Blues,CO painted calipers,SS lines,Reverie XC CF seat, Reverie CF steering wheel,V force harness bar,Schroth Profi II 6 pt harness,shifter re-Enforcer, BWR key to BWR S/C! 2007 E63 M6 (many mods...) |
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High Roller
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what about the "manifold, ic, pulley, tune" upgrade package for current non-intercooled folks?
Looks nice btw!
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06 Lotus Elise - AR/Blk, Touring, Premium, TC, HT, DRL Delete, X-Pel, TS Pro1 Exhaust, TS Pro1 Intake, BBmod, Saikou Michi OCC, 6000k HIDs, Stealth Bulbs, 07+ Letters, Re-grooved Bilsteins, LG Stone Guards, CR Engine Covers, S111 Folding Tow Hook, FF CF Spoiler, 17" PIAA FR-7s, CharlieX 06 ECU V2.0, Greddy/BOE Supercharger ![]() 88 BMW 528is - Blue/Llama Beige, M20 stroker motor, Alpina SW, 3.73 LSD, BavAuto Springs, Bilstein Sports, M3 SSK, 16x8 BBS, 225/245 tires, shadowline |
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Crazy Car Guy
Join Date: Apr 2008
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The kit is not currently CARB compliant. Although we are looking to seek the certification. We have had many discussions with Charlie in regards to this. Quote:
I just want this to be a place where information can be found.Dynojet Numbers were added! |
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Live to Drive
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Rye, NY
Posts: 8,388
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Apparently you can upgrade your Katana to this kit's specs
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Driving a Lotus Exige with sticky... performance tires on icy roads or in standing water is about as much fun as walking a high wire treated with WD-40 - Car & Driver BWR supercharged... I suppose I "got the power" now?? |
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blah
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Laguna Hills, CA
Posts: 2,202
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YAY...everyone can stop whining about it now
Kit looks good.
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AJ 06 Aspen White Exige - MWR Stage 4 motor : Exige S manifolds : MP62 : CharlieX Tune : FF 10psi pulley : RLS IC and pipes : Walbro 255 : RC550cc : Moroso Pan : VonHep Single : WR Race Header : JRZ DA Race Coilovers...(tons of other goodies)... 267hp/167tq at the wheels : Dyno |
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blah
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Laguna Hills, CA
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If the nose piece is different than the Greddy blower that is on the Katana and BWR kit then there may be issues retrofitting. Just like the Lotus nose pice is 3/8" longer than the Greddy one so the Katana blower wont work with Exige S brackets. I have no idea of the specs on the blower they are using for this though.
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AJ 06 Aspen White Exige - MWR Stage 4 motor : Exige S manifolds : MP62 : CharlieX Tune : FF 10psi pulley : RLS IC and pipes : Walbro 255 : RC550cc : Moroso Pan : VonHep Single : WR Race Header : JRZ DA Race Coilovers...(tons of other goodies)... 267hp/167tq at the wheels : Dyno |
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ZAMMY
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: washington, pa, (near PGH.)
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any place charliex is involved, i'm listening.
minimum required withdrawal time is coming...i gotta do something with it, now i'm over 70....... ![]() sam
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Sam Mayberry, W3CYO/R, resident curmudgeon. aspen white '06 elise, now with hinged rear clam! nice! youtube: sam's jet turbine scooter |
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peregrinus caelum
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 787
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...at last!..
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2005 Federal Elise | Touring | Storm Titanium ...67,000 miles and aging beautifully... Last edited by ...m... : 09-08-2008 at 10:49 AM. |
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Crazy Car Guy
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Thanks, Jermaine~ |
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 23
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<-- Subscribed :)
100hp sounds very tempting
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2005 Elise - Storm Ti/Red LSS, Touring, Hardtop, StarShield, Stage II 2002 Acura RSX - Maroon/Beige Stock - Daily Driver 2002 Audi TT ALMS Series - Avus Grey/Red Sold |
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MY car weighs 3166lbs
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 421
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Wow, sounds incredible.
After riding in an SC220 and an S240, I can't even IMAGINE what 100 extra horsepower would feel like! ![]() ![]() ![]()
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