2-Eleven beats X-bow in Car Mag time trials

[FLuXeXigeS]

^i know, either way money wasted

[sleepe]

Its also been proven in R&T that the GTR's true horsepower is about 540 crank.

The article may have been in car and driver....

[FLuXeXigeS]

they are about 80hp off the mark LOL

claimed 473hp, tested 540hp

[mopho]

Originally Posted by Murix

They have to pay for track time rain or shine. Sometimes they have deadlines to meet.

Not to mention, they don't have much choice in England

[FLuXeXigeS]

^thats why im surprised that not ALL magazines test in CA??? best weather in the WORLD!!!

[thegit]

Originally Posted by FLuXeXigeS

i never understood, why people / magazines test n the wet...unless the test is about how well a car is in the wet...then its money lost / thrown away

the tests are pretty much irrelevant

In the UK, and especially in the west, wet can be the prevailing weather. The comics have a limited window of access to press fleets of several manufacturers, and a limited window for track access.
I understand the methodology having being born and raised in the UK.

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[Joecooool]

Originally Posted by wantanelise

The GTR is just too much. It doesn't make sence to me. I think it's a conspiracy. Can car company's pay magazines to skew the test results?

Car and Driver dyno'ed the pre production test GT-R's. and discovered they had been given ringers by Nissan with about 50 more hp than Nissan claimed.

[Conan]

re: GTR...

A car mag did a great write up on how the GTR is able to get it's acceleration numbers despite having a relatively poor power-to-weight ratio. The two big factors are:

• All wheel drive. This one is obvious. It offers a substantial advantage from a standing start.
• The transmission. The GTR has a duel clutch transmission that allows < 60 ms shifts -- approaching F1 shift speeds. In effect, there is no time in which the car is not accelerating. This is a HUGE advantage over standard transmissions.

It was a great article and the numbers clearly showed a big advantage from the lighting fast shifts.

[wallabyguy]

The Nissan is also assisted by its fantastic handling which was tuned by LOTUS

[mopho]

Originally Posted by Joecooool

Car and Driver dyno'ed the pre production test GT-R's. and discovered they had been given ringers by Nissan with about 50 more hp than Nissan claimed.

That's not what they discovered. They discovered that Nissan is probably underrating the cars by 50hp and that goes for the production cars too, so there were likely no ringers.

What was interesting was that of the five cars tested, the two that did not perform as expected (or as expected for 480hp) were on CA gas, which is 91 octane.
One theory is that Nissan rated the cars at 480hp on the lowest possible premium fuel so that in worst conditions, the car is still making what they claim and when operated with better fuel, the cars are making more horsepower. Ye ole under-promise and over-deliver routine

[Gizmo3000]

Originally Posted by mopho

One theory is that Nissan rated the cars at 480hp on the lowest possible premium fuel so that in worst conditions, the car is still making what they claim and when operated with better fuel, the cars are making more horsepower. Ye ole under-promise and over-deliver routine

hmmm, mebbe they used special gas in the Ring runs??

[Monsi]

Originally Posted by Allan Gibbs

The engineers at Nissan are witches. The GT-R, a tool of Lucifer.

you and Porsche subscribe to the same belief system