2-Eleven US Arrivals? - Page 3 - LotusTalk

Patricko · 03-28-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphonse

PatrickO, have you inquired about SCCA eligability?

I would call Lotus USA and ask them.

ww111 · 03-29-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jlj3394

If I could win a big case I would buy one of those in a heartbeat. I truly think I could get it street legal'd in KS.

Ya know, I was really gonna dispute that, the paperwork I signed included details about a $35K a day fine. And I knew Bill Gates imported a 959 he was not allowed to drive. But... after doing very little research you may be right. Bill Gates and Paul Allen (founders of Microsoft) got a new law on the books, so they could legally drive their 959's
Wiki article is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_959
NHTA info on registering the car is here
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...osd072003.html

I learn something new every day...

Collins

Alphonse · 04-01-2008, 08:03 AM

Maybe if enough people sign up. To my understanding only 34 were ordered for the U.S. market. If any of those 34 have some clout or a name well enough known to help influence things it may be possible.
I don't know about otheer areas, but around here driving a 2-11 on the street would be a risky proposition at best.

carlover · 04-01-2008, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphonse

Maybe if enough people sign up. To my understanding only 34 were ordered for the U.S. market. If any of those 34 have some clout or a name well enough known to help influence things it may be possible.
I don't know about otheer areas, but around here driving a 2-11 on the street would be a risky proposition at best.

But so much fun!!

ddurham · 04-01-2008, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rnr

You can get a race license from Altamont Motorsports park for $50 and all yu need is a valid road license. Thats what we've been using for the Lemons races

Exactly. It's actually a NASCAR license. All thet's needed is a pulse (and a drivers license).

Alphonse · 04-02-2008, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ddurham

Exactly. It's actually a NASCAR license. All thet's needed is a pulse (and a drivers license).

That's scarry.

exarkun1178 · 04-02-2008, 05:16 AM

i was for a very short time looking at the atom, and had my lawyer look into what wed have to do to make it legal for the street. at least in nj, a car like the atom, or 2/11 could very well become legal.

wallabyguy · 04-02-2008, 05:56 AM

A couple of notes.......

In the US the buyer needs to provide documentation to the factory and NHSTA that the car WILL NOT be used on the street.

The buyer must also furnish a racing license.

exarkun1178 · 04-02-2008, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by wallabyguy

A couple of notes.......

In the US the buyer needs to provide documentation to the factory and NHSTA that the car WILL NOT be used on the street.

The buyer must also furnish a racing license.

oh.....

what about the second owner?

ww111 · 04-02-2008, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wallabyguy

A couple of notes.......

The buyer must also furnish a racing license.

I've seen this a couple of places on Forums but without ANY reference or source. I'm one of the 34 and asked my dealer specifically about this "requirement". He stated "No such thing" He's been importing racing and track cars for a long time and there is no such requirement from DOT, EPA, NHTSA... who are you hearing this requirement from?

Collins
one of 3 Orange 2-11's

boxerman · 04-02-2008, 08:09 AM

Well I signed the forms and gave a copy of my racing license.

The reason US cars cannot be imported with the headlights is because DOT wants to ensure they are not street legal. Apparently there is a new crew at DOT NHtsa and they have the time and energy to police 34 cars.

Next thing you know no more street legal componant cars.

Alphonse · 04-02-2008, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wallabyguy

A couple of notes.......

The buyer must also furnish a racing license.

Not in Houston. Fact, not hear say.

wallabyguy · 04-02-2008, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ww111

I've seen this a couple of places on Forums but without ANY reference or source. I'm one of the 34 and asked my dealer specifically about this "requirement". He stated "No such thing" He's been importing racing and track cars for a long time and there is no such requirement from DOT, EPA, NHTSA... who are you hearing this requirement from?

Collins
one of 3 Orange 2-11's

Well, as you may note, I'm a dealer. Im getting this straight from LCU as recently as this morning. I have the forms that must be filled out. If they are not, it will push your car to the end of production or may cancel your order all together. I suggest your dealer call LCU and talk with his Regional Sales Rep.

wallabyguy · 04-02-2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphonse

Not in Houston. Fact, not hear say.

This was requested from all buyers in late December/ January. When I called and spoke with LCU this morning, they notified me that they had recently (within the past few weeks) negotiated this requirement away. The other DOT/EPA forms are still required.

boxerman · 04-02-2008, 10:07 AM

Meanwhile where are the cars?

wallabyguy · 04-02-2008, 10:56 AM

somewhere between the beginning of production and the port.

codymac · 04-02-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wallabyguy

somewhere between the beginning of production and the port.

Reminds me of my Exige order - all Lotus could tell us was that they were sure they'd built the car, they just didn't know what had happened to it after that (no record of shipping it, delivering it to port, receipt in the US, nada).

wallabyguy · 04-02-2008, 11:56 AM

thank god someone got my humor.

boxerman · 04-02-2008, 02:47 PM

Well at least lotus is not some BS branded operation like ferrar is these days, they are still all about the car.

Kinda like the old days at maranelo when a customer would arrive to pick up a car on to have to wait a week or two while it was built.

Seriously though between the one extreme and the other lays better info.

whl3 · 04-03-2008, 04:24 AM

The first eight have been assigned serial numbers. It is correct that the feds have now waived the competition license. The waivers, I think, are still a requirement. Lotus USA is traveling to the UK next week. More information of their production status should be available after they return.

04-02-2008, 05:56 AM	#48 (permalink)
wallabyguy Club111. Got the groove? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 5,320	A couple of notes....... In the US the buyer needs to provide documentation to the factory and NHSTA that the car WILL NOT be used on the street. The buyer must also furnish a racing license. __________________ Robert (aka Sith Lord of LB) Former Lotus Sales 74 Elite 502 05 Elise (Snuffalupagous..RIP : Laser Blue, Black Leather, Touring Pack, Hardtop ) The Wallaby Will Ride Again

04-02-2008, 10:56 AM	#56 (permalink)
wallabyguy Club111. Got the groove? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 5,320	somewhere between the beginning of production and the port. __________________ Robert (aka Sith Lord of LB) Former Lotus Sales 74 Elite 502 05 Elise (Snuffalupagous..RIP : Laser Blue, Black Leather, Touring Pack, Hardtop ) The Wallaby Will Ride Again

04-02-2008, 11:56 AM	#58 (permalink)
wallabyguy Club111. Got the groove? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 5,320	thank god someone got my humor. __________________ Robert (aka Sith Lord of LB) Former Lotus Sales 74 Elite 502 05 Elise (Snuffalupagous..RIP : Laser Blue, Black Leather, Touring Pack, Hardtop ) The Wallaby Will Ride Again

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04-01-2008, 08:03 AM	#43 (permalink)
Alphonse Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 630 Images: 8	Maybe if enough people sign up. To my understanding only 34 were ordered for the U.S. market. If any of those 34 have some clout or a name well enough known to help influence things it may be possible. I don't know about otheer areas, but around here driving a 2-11 on the street would be a risky proposition at best.

04-02-2008, 05:16 AM	#47 (permalink)
exarkun1178 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Point Pleasant Beach, NJ Posts: 3,619	i was for a very short time looking at the atom, and had my lawyer look into what wed have to do to make it legal for the street. at least in nj, a car like the atom, or 2/11 could very well become legal.

04-02-2008, 08:09 AM	#51 (permalink)
boxerman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Conn Posts: 101	Well I signed the forms and gave a copy of my racing license. The reason US cars cannot be imported with the headlights is because DOT wants to ensure they are not street legal. Apparently there is a new crew at DOT NHtsa and they have the time and energy to police 34 cars. Next thing you know no more street legal componant cars.

04-02-2008, 10:07 AM	#55 (permalink)
boxerman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Conn Posts: 101	Meanwhile where are the cars?

04-02-2008, 02:47 PM	#59 (permalink)
boxerman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Conn Posts: 101	Well at least lotus is not some BS branded operation like ferrar is these days, they are still all about the car. Kinda like the old days at maranelo when a customer would arrive to pick up a car on to have to wait a week or two while it was built. Seriously though between the one extreme and the other lays better info.

04-03-2008, 04:24 AM	#60 (permalink)
whl3 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 25	The first eight have been assigned serial numbers. It is correct that the feds have now waived the competition license. The waivers, I think, are still a requirement. Lotus USA is traveling to the UK next week. More information of their production status should be available after they return.

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