Blackwatch XP "FrankenLotus" Build-up i.e. 370HP 1595lb Beastie

[fzust]

Originally Posted by andrewgotanelise

not to hate on the car, i love it , but the title says 1595lb beastie not 1855lb beastie

Race weight is actually 1824+/- with a full 3.25 gallon tank of gas. My legal min weight is 1803lbs. The car was 1595 with the turbo w/o ballast to meet the minimum. I estimate it is about 1620 w/o ballast with the supercharger.

The key is to get the weigh down so you can add it back where you want it. In my case passenger footwell or where the AC used to be on the right front.

You're right though, When I go to the drag strip in a week or so, I need to yank all that weight!

[fzust]

First Local event after nationals. Trying to see if I can still drive.
Apparently so. FTD + FPTD. Of course the fact that our 2 local hotshoes weren't there: Brian Peters(2008 CSP Champ) and Tage Evanson(2008 FM 2nd) certainly helped the cause.

Pos Class Category Name Car Fast Time FT% PAX Time PT%
1 XP SPM Fred Zust 2005 Lotus Elise 33.204 1000 29.286 1000
2 CSP SPM Jay Balducci 2006 Mazda Mx-5 34.595 960 29.613 989
3 DSP SPM Elliot Speidell 2003 BMW 330 35.538 934 29.959 978
4 ASP SPM Steve Eymann 2007 Porsche Gt3 34.757 955 29.961 977
5 FM SPM Dan Hawrylkiw 1986 Zink Z-19 33.612 988 30.083 974
6 CSP SPM Don Sattler 1991 Mazda Miata 35.221 943 30.149 971
7 STU SPM Ben Clement 2005 Mitsubishi Evo 36.633 906 30.405 963
8 CSP Open Steve Ashcraft 1993 Mazda Miata 35.561 934 30.440 962
9 DS SPM Brady Dohrmann 1998 Acura Integra Type R 37.488 886 30.440 962
10 AS SPM Britt Dollmeyer 2002 Honda S2000 36.268 916 30.538 959
11 SM Open Dave Young 2002 BMW M3 35.716 930 30.716 953
12 CSP SPM Mindi Cross 2007 Mazda Mx5 35.890 925 30.722 953
13 CSP PAXL Dawn Maxwell 1994 Mazda Miata 36.009 922 30.824 950
14 SM Open Francis Miller 2005 Mitsubishi Evo Viii Rs 35.847 926 30.828 950
15 HS ST2 Clint Child 2002 Honda Civic Si 38.928 853 30.831 950
16 CS Open Matt Soeffner 1999 Mazda Miata #64 37.234 892 30.941 946
17 CSP Open Dave Lahey 1991 Mazda Miata 36.195 917 30.983 945
18 HS ST2 Chad Mizner 2003 Honda Civic Si 39.228 846 31.069 943
19 CSP Open Derrick Disharoom 1991 Mazda Miata 36.330 914 31.098 942
20 CS Open Kevin Venisnik 1999 Mazda Miata 37.463 886 31.132 941
21 STU PAXL Teresa Clement 2005 Mitsubishi Evo 37.707 881 31.297 936
22 DS ST2 Jim Rohn 2006 BMW 330I 38.578 861 31.325 935
23 DSP SPM Doug Rowse 2003 BMW 330 37.189 893 31.350 934
24 XP PAXL Diane Deanovic 2005 Lotus Elise 35.565 934 31.368 934
25 CS Open Jeff Hancock 1999 Mazda Miata 37.747 880 31.368 934
26 ES Open Sean Morrill 1997 Mazda Miata 38.528 862 31.477 930
27 CSP SPM Steve Steele 1993 Mazda Miata 36.850 901 31.544 928
28 SM Open Tim Bergstrom 2003 BMW M3 36.777 903 31.628 926
29 AS SPM Dave Munsey 2002 Porsche Boxster S 37.604 883 31.663 925
30 STS Open Manfred Reysser 2001 Toyota Celica Gt 38.849 855 31.701 924
31 HS ST2 Jeff Williams 2002 Honda Civic Si 40.038 829 31.710 924
32 CS Open Larry Burrow 1999 Mazda Miata 10Ae 38.215 869 31.757 922
33 SS Open Kim Kemper 2006 Chev Corvette 37.283 891 31.765 922
34 STS Open Clinton Campbell 2005 Mini Justacooper 38.961 852 31.792 921
35 DS ST2 Klayton Albers 2006 BMW 330I 39.235 846 31.859 919
36 ASP PAXL Deb Eymann 2007 Porsche Gt3 37.040 896 31.928 917
37 FSP SPM Travis Gianelli 1988 Volkswagen Jetta 38.365 865 31.958 916
38 SM2 Open Victor Malchesky 1986 Honda Crx 36.955 898 32.040 914
39 SM SPM Larry Petrucci 2005 BMW M3 37.460 886 32.216 909
40 STX Open Jeffrey Israel 2004 Volkswagen Golf R32 39.322 844 32.244 908
41 FS Open Evan Brom 2002 Chevy Camaro Z28 39.336 844 32.295 907
42 DSP ST2 Todd Houser 2007 Mini S 38.375 865 32.350 905
43 HS Open Mike Rogers 2003 Acura Rsx 40.942 811 32.426 903
44 SS SPM Joel Schotz 2008 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 38.112 871 32.471 902
45 STX NV3 Richard Damp 1996 BMW 328Is 39.615 838 32.484 902
46 DS ST2 Matthew Kulka 2008 Audi Tt 40.095 828 32.557 900
47 STU SPM Kevin Cote 2007 Subaru Sti 39.305 845 32.623 898
48 CS Open Brad Owen 1999 Mazda Miata 39.280 845 32.642 897
49 SM Open Frank Adams unknown 37.979 874 32.662 897
50 STS Open Christopher Largent 1997 Subaru Impreza L 40.092 828 32.715 895
51 STU NV3 Travis Berry 2005 Subaru Impreza Sti 39.420 842 32.719 895
52 STS Open Kelly Banks 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Es 40.145 827 32.758 894
53 CP SPM Brian Weikert 1985 Chevrolet Camaro 37.928 875 32.770 894
54 GS ST2 Scott Meyers 2007 Ford Moostang 40.422 821 32.944 889
55 BSP ST1 George Sklyarevsky 2006 Mazda Rx-8 38.460 863 32.999 887
56 ES PAXL Kat Morrill 1997 Mazda Miata 40.463 821 33.058 886
57 ES Open Sean Powers 1995 Mazda Miata 40.502 820 33.090 885
58 SM SPM Kris Castner 2000 Subaru Impreza 2.5 Rs 38.535 862 33.140 884
59 EM Open Clifton Ragland 1971 Datsun 240Z 37.422 887 33.193 882
60 SM SPM Chris Black 1998 Pontiac Trans Am 38.627 860 33.219 882
61 SM ST1 Greg Rubenstein 2004 Subaru Wrx Sti #65 38.640 859 33.230 881
62 STX NV3 Wade Orsini 1993 Nissan 240Sx 40.559 819 33.258 881
63 SS ST1 Geren Smith 2007 Porsche Boxster S 39.060 850 33.279 880
64 STX Open Sergio Perez 2000 BMW 328I 40.601 818 33.293 880
65 SS ST1 Jon Roesch 2008 Porsche Cayman S 39.125 849 33.335 879
66 SM SPM Richard Rippy 2000 Pontiac Firebird 38.883 854 33.439 876
67 STS2 Open Dave Branson 1993 Mazda Miata 41.204 806 33.705 869
68 STX Open Mark Osier 1987 BMW 535Is 41.282 804 33.851 865
69 BSP NV1 David Manley 2005 Subaru Impreza Wrx Sti 39.489 841 33.882 864
70 DS SPM Tom Perme 2007 Subaru Wrx 42.075 789 34.165 857
71 STX Open Ryan Bernholtz 2008 Honda Civic Si 41.688 796 34.184 857
72 FSP NV3 Adam Vega 1990 Honda Accord 41.132 807 34.263 855
73 BM Open Alan Wagstaffe 2000 Legrand Dragon Sr1 36.792 902 34.474 850
74 STS Open Josh Johnston 1995 Nissan 240Sx 42.335 784 34.545 848
75 GS NV2 Chris Steel unknown 42.437 782 34.586 847
76 CS PAXL Mitzi Burrow 1999 Mazda Miata 10Ae 41.620 798 34.586 847
77 STU NV3 Scott Matthews 2005 Mazda Rx-8 41.763 795 34.663 845
78 DSP NV1 Robby Adelfson Mazda 3 41.179 806 34.714 844
79 GS ST2 James Tomassoni 2008 Volkswagen Gti 42.598 779 34.717 844
80 ES Open Joe Sandoval 1990 Mazda Miata 42.524 781 34.742 843
81 SS ST1 Mike Mah 2006 Lotus Elise 40.818 813 34.777 842
82 CS ST2 Dave Hurt 2004 Mazda Miata 41.861 793 34.786 842
83 BS ST1 Dave Bibby 2001 BMW Z3 41.890 793 34.852 840
84 ESP ST1 Roger Brendecke 1998 Chevy Camaro Ss 41.517 800 34.916 839
85 STS NV3 Shaun Brown 2007 Mazda 3 43.264 767 35.303 830
86 SM NV1 Jeff Abrams 2004 Mazda Rx-8 41.084 808 35.332 829
87 GS NV2 Anthony Smith Scion tC 43.444 764 35.407 827
88 CSP NV2 Clayton Saffell 2007 Mazda Mx-5 41.686 797 35.683 821
89 STU Open Frank Miller 2006 Pontiac Gto 43.104 770 35.776 819
90 SM ST1 Brock Palmer 1997 Subaru Impreza 41.709 796 35.870 816
91 SM NV1 Brian Dudo 2003 Mazda Protege 41.925 792 36.056 812
92 GS STL Glenda Meyers 2007 Ford Moostang 44.269 750 36.079 812
93 DSP NV1 Johnny Kakar unknown 43.233 768 36.445 804
94 CSP NVL Niki Voyatzis 2003 Mazda Miata 42.758 777 36.601 800
95 HS NV2 Patrick Maas 2006 Hyundai Sonata 48.123 690 38.113 768
96 SM2 NV1 Matthew Thomas 1991 Toyota Mr2 44.319 749 38.425 762
97 SM NV1 Javier Martinez 1999 BMW 323is 44.903 739 38.617 758
98 SM NV1 Tim Fischer 2004 Mini Cooper S 45.008 738 38.707 757
99 STS NV3 Eric Malsack 2007 Mazda 6 47.999 692 39.167 748
100 SM2 NV1 Alex Lajeunesse 1997 Mazda Miata 45.214 734 39.201 747
101 SM NV1 Josh Bethel unknown 47.287 702 40.667 720
102 DP NV2 Shawn Warner 1971 Fiat 124 47.208 703 40.741 719
103 SM STL Suzanne Lipke 2005 Mini Cooper S 47.746 695 41.062 713
104 SM NV1 Christopher Norten Subaru Sti 48.558 684 41.760 701
105 STS NV3 Dane Traines 1974 Volkswagen Super Beetle 51.906 640 42.355 691

[Bavarian Motorist]

Kicking ass

[Randy Chase]

Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

Kicking ass

And obviously taking names...



p.s. Way to go Diane

[brookester]

Please thank your wife for taking me for a ride at Firebird last weekend. It was a fantastic ride. I'm saving my pennies for the SC kit
[I was the guy in the yellow VW bug]

-Brooke

[fzust]

Originally Posted by brookester

Please thank your wife for taking me for a ride at Firebird last weekend. It was a fantastic ride. I'm saving my pennies for the SC kit
[I was the guy in the yellow VW bug]

-Brooke

Very happy to spread the joy of BWR insanity around!

[fzust]

Nats Pics(finally)
Babak, Diane, Me

[fzust]

Planned Upgrades for this year....
- Car is ready to go back under the knife for a heart transplant! Although the 3 year old mill has been holding together great with only stiffer valve-springs and headstuds, I would rather be safe than sorry!
- Working with DRS on some proprietary head modifications which are yielding some very promising flowbench numbers. I.E. More power!
- Additionally, working on a 5.5" clutch setup that should pull 10-15lbs of reciprocating mass off of the crank!
- Re-make the experimental wheels to reduce weight.
- Play with front aerodynamics for more downforce.
- Most important: Tighten the nut behind the wheel!

[RichS]

How about going for a center mounted seat?

[fzust]

Not legal in XP!

[MaineLotus]

Fred, what size tires are you running front/rear?

[fzust]

Originally Posted by MaineLotus

Fred, what size tires are you running front/rear?

They're tiny:

Fronts are 23.5x11R16 and the rears are 23.5x12R16. Hoosier Radials.

[shay2nak]

damn that kit looks nice.

[brookester]

What's the output with the supercharger?



*never mind*

[fzust]

Forgot to post this. It happened in August, 1 month before nationals. Pinion gear let go....

[Bender Rodríguez]

Looking over the thread I saw a couple of posts about what was removed or modified on the car that got you down to the 1595lb range, but if you have anymore details I would be real curious to learn about it. Also any more details where was the extra weight that brought it back up to 1855 before ballast? Thanks.

[fzust]

Originally Posted by Bender Rodríguez

Looking over the thread I saw a couple of posts about what was removed or modified on the car that got you down to the 1595lb range, but if you have anymore details I would be real curious to learn about it. Also any more details where was the extra weight that brought it back up to 1855 before ballast? Thanks.

I run the car at about 1830 w/ Ballast, not without. I am running an optima red-top in the cavity where the A/C used to be. That battery weighs 38lbs and it is right where I want the weight. I replaced the Odyssey because I like having the extra reserve. Additionally, I run over 100lbs ballast in the passenger footwell. Currently running the passenger seat for ride-alongs, but that gets ditched for the big events.

Weight savings:

[Bender Rodríguez]

Originally Posted by fzust

I run the car at about 1830 w/ Ballast, not without. I am running an optima red-top in the cavity where the A/C used to be. That battery weighs 38lbs and it is right where I want the weight. I replaced the Odyssey because I like having the extra reserve. Additionally, I run over 100lbs ballast in the passenger footwell. Currently running the passenger seat for ride-alongs, but that gets ditched for the big events.

Weight savings. Anyone knows how to format let me know.....

lbs oz
Side Mirror R 1 11.2
Side Mirror L 1 11.2
Windshield Wiper 1 4.1
Inside Rear Roll bar cover -14
Front R Grill 1
Front L Grill 1
Sound Proof Insulation 5 4
Rear package shelf + speakers 8 5
Interior Door panels x 2 3 12
LA Radio 3 2
Between seat storage tray bracket 9.6
Between seat storage tray 2.9
Front speaker 1 9
Rear Brake Light 7.5
Floor mats 1 12
Driver's Airbag 1 2.4
Remaining carpeting 4 8.6
Seatbelt Retainers x2 3
Passenger seat 20 6 20 6
Front Access covers 0 0 4 4.6
Odyssey PC680 Battery 0 0 14 4.2
Odyssey PC380 Battery 0 0 6
Headlight Cover x2 0 0 3 2.2
Headlight Assemblyx2 4 6
Front Grill 9.4
Charcoal Canister + Evap 3 12.8
A/C Compressor 8 11
Rear AC hoses 2 1.9
Unichip + PNP harness 2 11.9
Side Grills X 2 1 6
Front Fender Liner X 2 5 13.6
Rear Fender Liner X 2 4 5.3
Plastic Engine Covers X 2 1 1.3
FF Cat 5 2.8
FF Exhaust 19 11.8
New Exhaust -3 -2
Strebel horn + relay 1 10.9
Stock horn 10.7
Stock Alarm siren 15.8
A/C Condenser 4 2.3
A/C + Heater core + hoses & tubes 10 11.2
Heater Fan 5 11
Front Tow Hook bracket 0 14.4
Windshield Wiper Motor 4 9.3 added 8.2 ounces back to have part of bracket to support clam. Total is 5lb 2.5
Heater/AC Inlet Module 3 2
Driver's Airbag 2 4.2
Heater/AC console 12.8
Steering wheel surround + stalks 1 11.4
Driver/Pass starter/access panels 9.1
Rearview Mirror 9.4
Gauge Surround 10.2
pass door sill cover + a/c vent 2 11
driver door sill cover + a/c vent 2 11.6
Under dash tray + plastic dividers 3 11.6
Center A/C vents + side vent tubes 1 13.5
Dash 5 15.8
Upper dash brace + pass airbag 10 9
Antenna wire 2.4
Stripped rear clam vs. Stock 10 12.8
PCV Valve 6
Exhaust Hangers 1 3.7
Rear License Plate Panel 4 11
Heat Shield 2 8.8
AC Duct Baffles(Behind HVAC) 1 2.4
Front Clam grills,antenna,lightbulbs 11.4
Add remote Fan Relay + Switch -4.1
15x10" wheels front(2X) vs cantilevered slicks -5
16x10" wheels rear(2X) vs cantilevered slicks -8
Hurricane Driver's seat -17 -3.5
Stock Driver's seat 20 6
SRS sensor 10.6
Center Console 1 13.7
E-brake Handle 3
Hinges replaced with pins 0 10 ?????
Door Jam reflectors 1.2
Trimmed wheel arch bits 1 13.4
Trimmed extra catch tank hose 5.9
Window motor and slider x 2 7 4
Window track 1 6.5
misc window moldings 8.3
Lighter catch-can 1 2.3

Total Weight Reduction (Lbs) 209.74 523.9

Front(Infront of the dash) 52.13 154.1
Rear(Behind the seats) 86.66 130.50

Front(Infront of the dash with battery to front) 37.88
Rear(Behind the seats with battery to front) 100.91

Delta Rear to Front Weight Shift (Lbs) 63.03

Awesome list thanks! I was kind of surprised on some of the items like the center console is 13lbs. wow. I might try to copy some of your ideas like the quick connect under tray and clam removal. If you don't mind giving any tips or additional pictures it would be appreciate. If not I understand, thanks again.

[fzust]

The undertray is kind of a special deal. For the mid-tray, I bent the sides up so they fit up inside the area the under tray covers. It tucks in as normal in the front, then I use the last 8mm holes on the side to hold down a rotating wing that flips out to bar the undertray from falling out. Then welded to the sides of the original 2 holes for allen bolts, I have 2 qtr turn fasteners(cam locks). Lastly on the back of this I have a little strip of aluminum riveted along the edge to create a slot to hold the front edge of the rear diffuser. Same as the middle, there are 2 cam-lock recepticles welded to the orginal allen bolt recepticles. Then I have a piece of aluminum on each side connected to the 8mm on the edge of the rear frame that used to hold the extentions for the heat shield brackets. These hang-down and have a comlock in them that connect to the diffuser after it does the turn-up in the back. Confused? here are the Pics I have...

[kbob]

Y'know, you could save another three pounds if you picked the gravel off of your tires...