Track and Analysis and what loggers have you used on the Elise? - LotusTalk

lotus4fun · 07-01-2008, 10:53 PM

Below is my basic research for a Data Logger for the Elise 07 ECU.
Who has used any loggers below and what was the result?

I am looking at cost too. Most seem to be 1k starting.

MoTeC MoTeC i2 logger models

Advantage Motorsports
AMDAS for XP, and all Advantage Motorsports logger models.

Aim
AiM Race Studio, and All AiM logger models

G2Xtreme & IQ3
RacePak Datalink II support for G2Xtreme and IQ3 loggers

GTech Pro RR
GTech PASS software, and Pro RR loggers

MaxQData
MaxQData Chart, MQGPS, MQ200

Megasquirt
Megasquirt data support in TrackVision

QSTARZ BT-Q1000
Ultra low cost, light weight GPS logger. No external inputs for RPM, no accelerometers, but its got a strong TrackVision user group and a very neat data conversion utility designed by one of our users.

Pi Systems
Pi Systems software and logger models

Race Technology
Race Technology Analysis, and the DL series of loggers

Race Logic VBox, PerformanceBox
Race Logic Tools and loggers

Stack
Stack Datapro, and all Stack logger models

Traqmate
Track Systems Traqview, and Traqmate loggers

Auterra
DashDyno SPD loggers

TrackVision to see the video

Eric

xcessiveone · 07-01-2008, 11:29 PM

I have the Traqmate. Wouldn't hit the track without it. Instant feedback while on the track, and tons of analysis available via the Traqview software. PM with questions.

Chili Red · 07-02-2008, 07:48 AM

Traqmate here...

Randy Chase · 07-02-2008, 07:51 AM

I am sitting here with the owner of the Traqmate company, let me know if you have questions.

kestrel74 · 07-02-2008, 08:14 AM

Gtech Pro SS..... I LOVE it. It does what I need it to do....nothing more.

Dmbrown34 · 07-02-2008, 08:49 AM

At the track, I mainly see people with Traqmate. I think Im getting to the point where that kind of information would be helpful.

How hard is it to get installed with all the sensors? Throttle/RPMs/etc.

RichS · 07-02-2008, 09:48 AM

Race Technology DL1

It has the best analysis software. At the end of the day you will eventually want (need?) the best analysis software if you are really going to use the data to improve your driving once you get to the top of your game.

ZJChaser · 07-02-2008, 10:45 AM

RacePak G2X here. I chose it over the traqmate because I like the display much more.

lotus4fun · 07-02-2008, 12:02 PM

RacePak G2X here. I chose it over the traqmate because I like the display much more.

I agree that the display is better and the stock is too low to look at.
How is your G2X setup.

Eric

ZJChaser · 07-02-2008, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lotus4fun

RacePak G2X here. I chose it over the traqmate because I like the display much more.

I agree that the display is better and the stock is too low to look at.
How is your G2X setup.

Eric

control unit mounted to floor with industrial velcro

Display velcro'd to the dash

The GPS antenna is velcroed to the roof...though I'll be redoing it shortly with a more permanent mount.

Chili Red · 07-02-2008, 12:56 PM

To be honest one of the biggest factors in me choosing the traqmate was I run with several other people that have traqmates and this allows me to compare my data to theirs.

ZJChaser · 07-02-2008, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chili Red

To be honest one of the biggest factors in me choosing the traqmate was I run with several other people that have traqmates and this allows me to compare my data to theirs.

That is a very good reason. Most of the lotus guys I run with weren't running loggers when I got mine. I know one or two others that have the G2X and a couple that have traqmate or DL1 so it was about even any direction I went in that sense so I ended up using the display as a deciding factor...oh ya and the fact that Racepak is located 10 minutes from me so I can go directly to them if I ever need help with it.

charliex · 07-02-2008, 01:02 PM

made my own!

chrisp993 · 07-02-2008, 01:03 PM

Inexpensive but very limited in terms of analysis and extra inputs = Traqmate

Bit more expensive (~$1,000) but deep analysis and easy extra inputs = DL-1 and G2X

I use a DL-1 and would steer clear of the Traqmate unless you just want the most basic analysis. Counterbalance to this comment is that the software learning curve for the DL-1 and G2X is much steeper and as Chilli commented, whatever system your friends use is a BIG factor since being able to swap and compare data between drivers is a HUGE benefit compared to trying to analyse your own data in isolation.

ZJChaser · 07-02-2008, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charliex

made my own!

you would!...it looks simple enough. Nice and tidy

lotus4fun · 07-02-2008, 01:08 PM

OK, who is swaping with Charlex?

I like the raw UNIX stuff.

Eric

charliex · 07-02-2008, 01:20 PM

Its tidy, sort of, has all the extra sensors easily accessible so i can swap them out when needed.

But FYI don't use duct tape to put the monitor on the dash then forget about it, especially if its gets to 120F at your house

turbophil · 07-02-2008, 03:24 PM

I use the DL1 with the Dash 2 feeding the live info and love it!

Best,

Phil

ZJChaser · 07-02-2008, 03:30 PM

damn thats CLEAN! VERY NICE

turbophil · 07-02-2008, 03:46 PM

Thanks, here are more pics:

BOEFabrication.com | Beyond Original Equipment

I've since added a more sensors, ambient air temp, Two IATs (post blower), 3 Bar MAP sensor, etc...

The above posters are right about the software. It takes some work to learn the software, but when once you figure it out, it's an absolute blast to analyze everythnig.... It's really not that tough to learn though...I'm by far no computer hack. Heck, I just learned what Skype is yesterday

Point is that if I can figure it out, anyone can

Best,

Phil

07-01-2008, 10:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
lotus4fun Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 78	Track and Analysis and what loggers have you used on the Elise? Below is my basic research for a Data Logger for the Elise 07 ECU. Who has used any loggers below and what was the result? I am looking at cost too. Most seem to be 1k starting. MoTeC MoTeC i2 logger models Advantage Motorsports AMDAS for XP, and all Advantage Motorsports logger models. Aim AiM Race Studio, and All AiM logger models G2Xtreme & IQ3 RacePak Datalink II support for G2Xtreme and IQ3 loggers GTech Pro RR GTech PASS software, and Pro RR loggers MaxQData MaxQData Chart, MQGPS, MQ200 Megasquirt Megasquirt data support in TrackVision QSTARZ BT-Q1000 Ultra low cost, light weight GPS logger. No external inputs for RPM, no accelerometers, but its got a strong TrackVision user group and a very neat data conversion utility designed by one of our users. Pi Systems Pi Systems software and logger models Race Technology Race Technology Analysis, and the DL series of loggers Race Logic VBox, PerformanceBox Race Logic Tools and loggers Stack Stack Datapro, and all Stack logger models Traqmate Track Systems Traqview, and Traqmate loggers Auterra DashDyno SPD loggers TrackVision to see the video Eric

07-01-2008, 11:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
xcessiveone Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 37	I have the Traqmate. Wouldn't hit the track without it. Instant feedback while on the track, and tons of analysis available via the Traqview software. PM with questions. __________________ Ryan Indy 2007 Exige S 2003 Corvette Z06 (Lingenfelter 530 HP) http://www.robersonracing.com

07-02-2008, 07:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
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RichS No, it's only an N/A Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,182	Race Technology DL1 It has the best analysis software. At the end of the day you will eventually want (need?) the best analysis software if you are really going to use the data to improve your driving once you get to the top of your game. __________________ 2006 Phantom Black Exige - Touring, LSD, Track Pack, Starshield, Multivex Mirrors, Valentine One in MattG's bracket, Painted Shift Knob, Bootie, Increased range of remote, Tinted side windows, Black Lotus Nose Badge, 4Tress Harness Bar, Schroth PROFI II ASM Harness, Trickster's Black and Silver Wheel Cap Inserts, Panasonic FX01 on a ChaseCam camera mount, Powder Coated Gas Cap Cover, Soft Top mod with Touring Soft Top, Lotus Track Toe Link, Carbon Fiber AC Surround, Voltphreaks battery

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ZJChaser blah Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Laguna Hills, CA Posts: 2,184	RacePak G2X here. I chose it over the traqmate because I like the display much more. __________________ AJ 06 Aspen White Exige - MWR Stage 4 motor : Exige S manifolds : MP62 : CharlieX Tune : FF 10psi pulley : RLS IC and pipes : Walbro 255 : RC550cc : Moroso Pan : VonHep Single : WR Race Header : JRZ DA Race Coilovers...(tons of other goodies)... 267hp/167tq at the wheels : Dyno

07-02-2008, 12:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
lotus4fun Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 78	RacePak G2X here. I chose it over the traqmate because I like the display much more. I agree that the display is better and the stock is too low to look at. How is your G2X setup. Eric

07-02-2008, 12:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
Chili Red Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 1,583	To be honest one of the biggest factors in me choosing the traqmate was I run with several other people that have traqmates and this allows me to compare my data to theirs. __________________ 2007 Exige S - Chili Red 2009 Mini Cooper S - Chili Red Gotham 265, Nitron Sport Pro, Moroso oil pan, RTVBrace, Volk CE28N/R888, Cup Wheels/A048, 2Bular Ultra 4", Rapfix II w/ Sparco P300, S111 CF Splitter, Ultradiscs, Pagid RS42, V-Force Harness Bar, Schroth PROFI II, Fire Extinguisher, Folding Tow Hook, Odyssey PC680, re-ENFORCER, LLumar 30% tint, Traqmate, DashDAQ, Chasecam, Alpine IVA-D100 w/ Backup Camera.

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charliex disproving HD MTBF daily Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas , NV Posts: 8,267	made my own! Attached Images __________________ Black Exige S - http://goth.am 265 Mule / Elan M100 ECU Tuning, http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39660 Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud. After a while, you realise the pig is enjoying it.

07-02-2008, 01:03 PM	#14 (permalink)
chrisp993 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bloomfield Hills, MI Posts: 264	Inexpensive but very limited in terms of analysis and extra inputs = Traqmate Bit more expensive (~$1,000) but deep analysis and easy extra inputs = DL-1 and G2X I use a DL-1 and would steer clear of the Traqmate unless you just want the most basic analysis. Counterbalance to this comment is that the software learning curve for the DL-1 and G2X is much steeper and as Chilli commented, whatever system your friends use is a BIG factor since being able to swap and compare data between drivers is a HUGE benefit compared to trying to analyse your own data in isolation. __________________ 2007 Exige S Ardent Red w/Track Pack & Traction Control Mods: Ohlins/Plans Motorsport 46mm DA, Machined Steering Arms, Polyflex Bushings, Stock LSS w/R888 or Stella Corse w/Hoosiers, Lotus Motorsport Engine Mounts, Accusump, Quaife LSD tweaked to Plans Motorsport Spec, Lotus Motorsport Clutch, Pagid Blacks, Larini Sport 8 inch Exhaust, Schroth 6 Point, Data Acquisition by Race Technology DL-1, Video by Chasecam

07-02-2008, 01:08 PM	#16 (permalink)
lotus4fun Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 78	OK, who is swaping with Charlex? I like the raw UNIX stuff. Eric

07-02-2008, 01:20 PM	#17 (permalink)
charliex disproving HD MTBF daily Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas , NV Posts: 8,267	Its tidy, sort of, has all the extra sensors easily accessible so i can swap them out when needed. But FYI don't use duct tape to put the monitor on the dash then forget about it, especially if its gets to 120F at your house __________________ Black Exige S - http://goth.am 265 Mule / Elan M100 ECU Tuning, http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39660 Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud. After a while, you realise the pig is enjoying it.

07-02-2008, 03:24 PM	#18 (permalink)
turbophil Plug Whisperer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kansas City/ Overland Park Posts: 1,624 Images: 3	I use the DL1 with the Dash 2 feeding the live info and love it! Best, Phil __________________ \| '05 GG LSS Elise \| A Track Chariot \| BOE ClamHinge \| BOE TVS SuperCharger 275whp/175wtq \| EFI Standalone Engine Management \| See my car at BOE Fabrication: www.boefabrication.com *----->Last Updated: 11/09/08* If something ain't worth doing right, it ain't worth doing at all...

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07-02-2008, 03:30 PM	#19 (permalink)
ZJChaser blah Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Laguna Hills, CA Posts: 2,184	damn thats CLEAN! VERY NICE __________________ AJ 06 Aspen White Exige - MWR Stage 4 motor : Exige S manifolds : MP62 : CharlieX Tune : FF 10psi pulley : RLS IC and pipes : Walbro 255 : RC550cc : Moroso Pan : VonHep Single : WR Race Header : JRZ DA Race Coilovers...(tons of other goodies)... 267hp/167tq at the wheels : Dyno

07-02-2008, 03:46 PM	#20 (permalink)
turbophil Plug Whisperer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kansas City/ Overland Park Posts: 1,624 Images: 3	Thanks, here are more pics: BOEFabrication.com \| Beyond Original Equipment I've since added a more sensors, ambient air temp, Two IATs (post blower), 3 Bar MAP sensor, etc... The above posters are right about the software. It takes some work to learn the software, but when once you figure it out, it's an absolute blast to analyze everythnig.... It's really not that tough to learn though...I'm by far no computer hack. Heck, I just learned what Skype is yesterday Point is that if I can figure it out, anyone can Best, Phil __________________ \| '05 GG LSS Elise \| A Track Chariot \| BOE ClamHinge \| BOE TVS SuperCharger 275whp/175wtq \| EFI Standalone Engine Management \| See my car at BOE Fabrication: www.boefabrication.com *----->Last Updated: 11/09/08* If something ain't worth doing right, it ain't worth doing at all...