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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 02-22-2017, 06:53 AM Thread Starter
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Good Morning All,
I started my search for my "toy" awhile back and my first dream was an Esprit. Oh, and not because of James Bond or Pretty Women.
Here is my problem, I have never sat in one or even driven an Esprit for that matter. I have been advised and have read that my body (6'-3", 230 lbs.) won't fit comfortably in the car nor will my size 13 shoe navigate the pedals easily.
I have since focused on 911s, 928s, NSXs and Evoras but I still keep coming back to my first love, an Esprit.

So, here is my question. Is there anyone on Long Island, NY (preferably Suffolk County, Stony Brook/ Setauket area) that has an Esprit that I could sit in and test fit my body to? No need to test drive. If I fit to my satisfaction that's all that matters. I can drive anything.

I know, maybe a bit of a strange request but I will be buying this Spring and want to make sure that I know, without a doubt, that the Esprit is not in the running.

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I drove an 88 Esprit for 4 years/50K miles daily.

I am 6' 220 but my head came within 1/2" of the top. It's a snug fit at that weight but not onerous.

My friend is 6' 5" (unknown weight but likely 230 minimum) and he sat in the passenger side and had about 1" head clearance.

So I clearly have a tall torso.

RE: Size 13 shoes - that could be the bigger issue - I have size 12 shoes and have to pick my shoes carefully to make it easier to drive. If the shoe is too wide, you can catch the wrong pedal. Not a big deal, but definitely check it with your driving shoes.

Definitely sit in one first to make sure

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Thanks,

I'm looking into the later models (97-2002) and I understand that the redesign in those years added a little more room then the '88 you drove.
Overtime I have also did my research on modifications that others have made (modify seat rails, change seats an steering wheels etc.,) but I would rather keep the car as original as possible.
My big ole' feet, they have always been a problem. Hell, I sometimes have to be careful in my '15 LL Evoque daily driver between gas and brake!
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I drive an 87 now (about 1/2" less in the foot width area) and frankly I don't notice the difference. And curiously, the laid back seat (87 doesn't have seat rake adjustment) gives me about 1" head clearance if not more. But the laid back driving position is not my favorite. But at least I fit ;-)

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I've heard that some people replace the seats to get a bit more room too.
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I'm in Astoria Queens if you want to take the drive out.

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I am near the Tappan Zee Bridge but my car is currently in storage so it isn't driveable. You are definitely a "BIG GUY" and will have a problem fitting into the car. It is more than just size. You need to be flexible and be able to bend to get in and out too. There is no room for your left foot and the pedals are small and close together. I am not as big as you and if I don't use driving shoes I can have trouble with the pedals. Changing the seat doesn't add much (if any) room. Using the glass top can add a little bit of headroom (an inch or so). Sitting in the car is important but you should also try driving so you can see how challenging it is going to be to handle the pedals and how cramped the passenger compartment is for you. Get in touch with carbuff and he can tell you when the next nearest club event is. You can go to it and see what you can fit into.
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Thanks, I may take you up on it.
I work in Manhatten (upper east side) and pass by Astoria every day.
Let me know your availability and I will try to meet your schedule.

Thanks again
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Funny that you say flexible. Ex jock and the years of running into 250 lb linemen or being
chased by people beating me with sticks (lacrosse) have reared their ugly heads and taken their toll.
My main complaint to my wife is that if I don't get my toy soon I may not be able to even get in to it.
I expect she's banking on it.

Anyway, thanks for the offer.
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Re age and getting in/out - that's a real issue to consider.

While most owners may not run into it, I noticed in my 4 years of daily driving that getting in/out gets more difficult after a *cough* certain age. And unless you're Colin Chapman size of 5'8", it only gets aggravated.

The hardest daily driving issue is typical last night- at a Starbucks parked next to a car. Had to get in and hold door (to prevent dinging the minivan next to me). But trying to pull leg in and hold narrowly opened door not easy - only gets worse with age.
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I've heard that some people replace the seats to get a bit more room too.
Removing the seat rails will drop it down some also. My Esprit came without seat rails. I bought a set and installed them and basically at 5' 7" it made no difference that was a revelation of any sort

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If you are a really large person the steering wheel becomes a problem too along with being able to see the gauges. The sad truth is the car was not made to accommodate large people who are not flexible. All the more reason you need to not only get into the car but try driving it so you can see if you can control it comfortably.
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I'm in Port Jefferson with a 91 SE. You'd be welcome to come and sit in it to see what you think. I believe this model has the slightly roomier interior as well.
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The 'bigger' interior (note the quotes) started with the 93.5 SEs. The seat is lower due to changes in the floor pan.

Easiest way to tell is to see the body-colored door handles.

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Hi Trevor,
If you are around on Sunday, I would like to take you up on your offer
I could take a ride down Port and meet up with you.
Let me know.

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This weekend is really booked up for me already. How does one send private messages on this forum???
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You have to have a minimum number of posts to send/receive PM's. I believe it's 5...

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Whenever it's convenient for you
I tried to PM you but it went nowhere.

Now I know why. Thanks lotus_4s
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I tried to PM you but it went nowhere.

Now I know why. Thanks lotus_4s
How about next Saturday, March 11th? Hope it's warmer than this weekend!
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Thanks Trevor, sounds good.
I'll touch base later in the week.
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