New Tires - LotusTalk - The Lotus Cars Community

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-28-2013, 09:02 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Paul S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 214
Garage
New Tires

Well the time has come to put new tires on my 2002 Esprit and I am having trouble finding replacements for the stock sizes??? Any suggestions from anyone who has been down this path????

Currently running the original Dunlaps and they are just too old to feel comfortable with under any sprited driving conditions...Still lots of tread after 14k miles...
Paul S is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-28-2013, 09:33 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 645
I'd recommend looking at the Michelin Pilot Sport (PS2) tires. Pricey, but very grippy.

Tirerack.com has some good options.
ESPREE is offline  
post #3 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-28-2013, 09:39 AM
Registered User
 
ksgrimsr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 374
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul S View Post
Well the time has come to put new tires on my 2002 Esprit and I am having trouble finding replacements for the stock sizes??? Any suggestions from anyone who has been down this path????

Currently running the original Dunlaps and they are just too old to feel comfortable with under any sprited driving conditions...Still lots of tread after 14k miles...
I subjected the original tires on my '02 Esprit to some spirited driving with less miles on them than you have and one tire failed quite dramatically. Notice in the picture below the bottom tire has a bulge on it that goes all the way around the tire where the tread separated from the core (at least it held together instead of flying apart and tearing up my wheel well). You're definitely due for new tires even if you have lots of tread left.

For a streetable track tire, I use the Nitto NT05's. These are best for dry conditions only and I wouldn't recommend them for daily driving that includes much wet driving. For me they work well as a tire that I can drive around on the street with and then take to the track without having to change tires.

Knut
Attached Images
 
ksgrimsr is offline  
post #4 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-28-2013, 09:52 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 2,366
I have a set of Michlen Pilots that I would sell cheap. They have never been mounted but they are getting old.
David Teitelbaum
jtrealty is offline  
post #5 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-28-2013, 11:05 AM
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,594
I am running the Falkens 452 in stock sizes with great results. I don't track the car, but the grip is great and ride/noise is very good.

And it's nice that they were less than $800 shipped for the set from Discount Tire on eBay.
Attached Images
 

Last edited by lotusespritse; 01-28-2013 at 11:21 AM.
lotusespritse is offline  
post #6 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-28-2013, 04:26 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Florida
Posts: 576
I had Nitto05s on my Novas. Awesome tire for the money, way better than anything else I've had. I did track them once
But pretty soft compound and likely not great in the wet.
89.5 Esprit SE is offline  
post #7 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-28-2013, 05:02 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 283
Garage
I got a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports on my V8.
Good ride, fairly quiet, good steering, stick like a sumbitch.
The 245 width front fits just fine.
Gixxer is offline  
post #8 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-28-2013, 07:24 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 2,366
I remembered wrong. The tires I have are Yokos and according to the date codes are about 10 years old. I would not use them on a track but to sell a car or drive it on the street they should be OK. They were never mounted and were stored in a cool, dark place, my basement.
David Teitelbaum
jtrealty is offline  
post #9 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-28-2013, 07:30 PM
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,594
They say tires are good for 10 years if you use them, and only 5 if you store them.
lotusespritse is offline  
post #10 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-28-2013, 08:53 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sayre, PA
Posts: 407
Dave - I am not a tire buyer now, would have been a few months ago. Unless there are visible problems, I would not be afraid to use them. Good deal for somebody. We sell thousands of tires every month, been doing so for many years. Other than tires exposed to the sun in southern climates, I've never seen a failure due to age that was not preceeded by obvious cracking.

Guess who wrote the recommendations on replacing purely due to age. The tire companies! I can't imagine why they would do that....
CarSalesman is offline  
post #11 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-28-2013, 09:42 PM
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,594
Quote:
Originally Posted by CarSalesman View Post
Guess who wrote the recommendations on replacing purely due to age. The tire companies! I can't imagine why they would do that....
Because they know tires and they know that they never stop curing and they know when they are going to be unsafe... Like the tires in the pics above...
lotusespritse is offline  
post #12 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-29-2013, 05:29 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Sherman Oaks
Posts: 175
I'll second the recommendation on the Falken 452's.

Fantastic grip on dry road.

Alan

In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.

93.5 Esprit SE
02 Porsche Carrera
05 Grand Cherokee
95 Mercedes SL 320
06 Scot CR1 Pro Team
Alansglide is offline  
post #13 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-29-2013, 10:12 AM
Registered User
 
irox's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Chattahoochee Hills
Posts: 590
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
I got a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports on my V8.
Good ride, fairly quiet, good steering, stick like a sumbitch.
The 245 width front fits just fine.
Ditto on this; I went 235F, 295R for around $1200 and change...

1998 Lotus Esprit Twin Turbo -- Sold
irox is offline  
post #14 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-30-2013, 06:02 PM
Wingless Wonder
 
carbuff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: In the Back of your Mind
Posts: 3,958
Garage
Tongue in Cheek (Maybe)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CarSalesman View Post

Guess who wrote the recommendations on replacing purely due to age. The tire companies! I can't imagine why they would do that....
Really Old Tires have Low Rolling Resistance. Folks pay extra for that in a tire these days, don't they?

Really Old Tires = ROT


I'm so cheap I often squeak, but I can tell when a tire has outlived it's usefulness...and yeah, it's about 6 years on my daily drivers. That may be due to the number of heat cycles, not just age (long-term curing).



Furthermore, don't I remember that at least one manufacturer (initials M-B) recommends staying away from the track until their car's tires have a couple heat cycles in them?



++++++++++++++++++

Quote:
They say tires are good for 10 years if you use them, and only 5 if you store them.
lotusespritse, can you cite a source?


+++++++++++++++++


Quote:
The tires I have ... are about 10 years old. They were never mounted and were stored in a cool, dark place, my basement.

David, Were those tires ever used as bumpers in the Back To The Future pinball machine that's in your basement?






Atwell Haines
'88 Esprit
Succasunna, NJ USA


"Not all angels have wings." - Turbo R
carbuff is offline  
post #15 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-30-2013, 06:38 PM
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,594
New Tires

Sorry I don't bookmark every web page I read, so you'll have to do your own google.


Sent from AutoGuide.com App
lotusespritse is offline  
post #16 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-30-2013, 07:01 PM
Wingless Wonder
 
carbuff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: In the Back of your Mind
Posts: 3,958
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by lotusespritse View Post
Sorry I don't bookmark every web page I read, so you'll have to do your own google.
Sorry, please don't think I was trying to give you a hard time. But your statement is the opposite of all I have read (and no, I don't have sources to quote)

Atwell Haines
'88 Esprit
Succasunna, NJ USA


"Not all angels have wings." - Turbo R
carbuff is offline  
post #17 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-30-2013, 07:13 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 283
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by lotusespritse View Post
Because they know tires and they know that they never stop curing and they know when they are going to be unsafe... Like the tires in the pics above...
+1 on that.
Absolute truth.
I pitch the tires on my Lotus's every 3 or 4 years. You can tell when they go "off" first, in the rain. Then they start spinning in 2nd gear in the dry, etc.
It's a shame too. They have lots of tread left. I tell my tire installer the old tires have gone hard and he should drive an ice pick thru the sidewall to destroy them -but I'll bet he re-sells them to some kid in a Mustang who doesn't know any better.

Last edited by Gixxer; 01-30-2013 at 07:15 PM. Reason: added old tires
Gixxer is offline  
post #18 of 21 (permalink) Old 02-04-2013, 04:36 PM
Registered User
 
Ruff Ryder 6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: TN
Posts: 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by ksgrimsr View Post
For a streetable track tire, I use the Nitto NT05's. These are best for dry conditions only and I wouldn't recommend them for daily driving that includes much wet driving. For me they work well as a tire that I can drive around on the street with and then take to the track without having to change tires.

Knut
Gonna follow with what he said. Haven't taken it to the track yet, but from what spirited driving I've done on the Tail of the Dragon, it'll get the job done. Haven't driven in the wet either though...
Ruff Ryder 6 is offline  
post #19 of 21 (permalink) Old 02-05-2013, 05:56 AM
Registered User
 
irox's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Chattahoochee Hills
Posts: 590
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
+1 on that.
Absolute truth.
I pitch the tires on my Lotus's every 3 or 4 years. You can tell when they go "off" first, in the rain. Then they start spinning in 2nd gear in the dry, etc.
It's a shame too. They have lots of tread left. I tell my tire installer the old tires have gone hard and he should drive an ice pick thru the sidewall to destroy them -but I'll bet he re-sells them to some kid in a Mustang who doesn't know any better.
well, that explains a lot then
when I replaced my Sumi's with the PS2, the difference was considerable; more than I expected. bet it was the age of the "hardened" Sumi's that was a lot of the cause...

1998 Lotus Esprit Twin Turbo -- Sold
irox is offline  
post #20 of 21 (permalink) Old 02-05-2013, 06:44 AM
Registered User
 
MidLifeZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,848
Keep couple of old ones, put on set of wheels, go to Lowes and get round piece of plate glass and use as a table. Can get wheels which are damaged on the inside even and thus cheap!
MidLifeZ is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  LotusTalk - The Lotus Cars Community > Lotus Discussions > Lotus Esprit

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the LotusTalk - The Lotus Cars Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome