Question- 2 gas tanks?? - LotusTalk

chapster5 · 09-15-2008, 11:50 AM

My sisters boyfriend works at a petrol station, and he said the other day a Lotus Esprite pulled in and the guy got out opened up the fuel cap and started the petrol pump he then proceeded to a second cap inserted another pump and started that to, is it a standard car to have 2 petrol caps on? or is it modified do you think?

Shorty111R · 09-15-2008, 11:54 AM

Dude, the Lotus Esprite?

Hethel's newest carbonated beverage?

chapster5 · 09-15-2008, 11:57 AM

lol, whooops that be a typo

EDIT

Esprit

andykeck · 09-15-2008, 12:08 PM

Most, if not all, Esprits have two gas tanks and two fillers, If I understand correctly, the tanks should equalize through a crossover tube, but it can be faster just to fill both tanks at the same time.

chapster5 · 09-15-2008, 12:42 PM

oh right i see, wont that cause weight issues? you know 2 fuel tanks?

or is the esprit not for speed?

lotustt · 09-15-2008, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chapster5

oh right i see, wont that cause weight issues? you know 2 fuel tanks?

or is the esprit not for speed?

Oh dear lord.....

talon · 09-15-2008, 01:46 PM

wow...

All esprit's have two fuel tanks, located outboard behind each seat.
Since they are centrally mounted and balanced with a crossover pipe there is no negative impact on balance. Up until the late 90's there was a fuel filler on both sides of the car that would allow both tanks to be filled from either side. Using two pumps concurrently seems silly to me though. The recent Esprits just have a filler on the drivers side.

As far as 'not for speed'... bone stock 185+ mph for the later models - you decide.

chapster5 · 09-15-2008, 02:28 PM

lol, cool, just asking im not such a big fan on esprits hence m knowing nothing about them

im more of an Exige S fan (such a thing of beuty )

thanks for the info guys!!!

(my sisters boyfriend say an ariel atom pull up the other day :O he put somthing like £96 of fuel in or somthing like that, then he said to him i have at leas 13 more of these at home because he drives for a team

DAMN!!!!)

JohnnyQuik · 09-15-2008, 06:27 PM

I used to park between two rows of pumps and pump both sides at once just to mess with people. And my Esprit was real slow... like low 4 second 0 to 60, high 12 second quarter mile slow.

lotus4s · 09-15-2008, 07:06 PM

The 4 cylinder Esprits have fuel tank fillers on both sides of the car. The later V8's while still having two tanks only have a filler on one side.

Bibs · 09-17-2008, 08:27 AM

It was in 1998 that Lotus changed to a single filler on the right hand side so it effects both V8's and GT3's.

Some say it's because it's cheaper to only fit one side out and every little helps on the weight saving too!

*NB - Little known fact #1 - The X180-R had a fixture on the balance pipe which would block it. This was so that on long corners the fuel wouldn't surge out of the tank with the fuel pump in through the pipe to the other, non fuel pump side!

mike.griese · 10-13-2008, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bibs

It was in 1998 that Lotus changed to a single filler on the right hand side so it effects both V8's and GT3's.

Some say it's because it's cheaper to only fit one side out and every little helps on the weight saving too!

That and the fact it was a lot easier to meet evaporative emissions standards with only one fuel filler cap...

Alphonse · 12-29-2008, 01:21 PM

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Rodewaryer · 01-05-2009, 08:44 PM

Yep, the two tank issue is a non issue. My Sunbeam has one in each rear wing and a rather large cross over tube as well with just one filler cap. Not sure how many others are the same, but I suspect some Jag's have two tanks as standard equipment as well.....it's probably not all that unusual.

Roger · 01-06-2009, 07:16 AM

My Europa has twin tanks and fillers, and it was an option on the Mini Cooper 'S' I seem to remember.

Greg Z · 01-11-2009, 09:48 AM

I don't understand why anyone would want to pump into both tanks at one time. That means the second hose is laying over the back side of your prize, ugh, I don't think so.

not to mention the time it takes to pay again at the other pump, remove the gas cap, place the hose etc., I think I will just stick with filling up with one hose.

...m... · 01-11-2009, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Z

I don't understand why anyone would want to pump into both tanks at one time. That means the second hose is laying over the back side of your prize, ugh, I don't think so.

not to mention the time it takes to pay again at the other pump, remove the gas cap, place the hose etc., I think I will just stick with filling up with one hose.

...yes, but then you won't look as cool as the car parked in the middle of the aisle filling from pumps on both sides...

fitfan · 01-11-2009, 11:14 AM

my TVR had two tanks connected with a crossover as well, only one filler. but i think the fuel meter was like... in some other tank somewhere... in typical tvr fashion!

Jeff Torrey · 01-11-2009, 02:16 PM

The Esprit was originally designed with two tanks so that when you went into the water they would act as a ballist to keep the car somewhat bouyant. It said in the owners manual that it was best to drive underwater with tanks half full.

...m... · 01-11-2009, 03:49 PM

...but the submersible model came after the dual fuel tanks: the real reason is because colin chapman's first corollary dictates that two is better than one...

"If less is more, think of how much more more would be!"

09-15-2008, 11:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
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09-15-2008, 11:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
Shorty111R MY car weighs 3166lbs Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 556	Dude, the Lotus Esprite? Hethel's newest carbonated beverage? __________________ "Any car which holds together for more than a race is too heavy" - Colin Chapman -07 Chevy HHR -08 Kawasaki Concours 14 -09 Buell XB12Scg - GOT IT FOR HALF PRICE! Looking for a Lotus!

09-15-2008, 11:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
chapster5 Photochopper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 2,639 Images: 6	lol, whooops that be a typo EDIT Esprit __________________ http://www.chuforiagraphics.com/ FOR ALL YOUR GRAPHICS NEEDS CONTACT KEITH ON: sweetdaddydelicious (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

09-15-2008, 12:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
chapster5 Photochopper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 2,639 Images: 6	oh right i see, wont that cause weight issues? you know 2 fuel tanks? or is the esprit not for speed? __________________ http://www.chuforiagraphics.com/ FOR ALL YOUR GRAPHICS NEEDS CONTACT KEITH ON: sweetdaddydelicious (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

09-15-2008, 01:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
talon Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Charlotte , NC Posts: 76	wow... All esprit's have two fuel tanks, located outboard behind each seat. Since they are centrally mounted and balanced with a crossover pipe there is no negative impact on balance. Up until the late 90's there was a fuel filler on both sides of the car that would allow both tanks to be filled from either side. Using two pumps concurrently seems silly to me though. The recent Esprits just have a filler on the drivers side. As far as 'not for speed'... bone stock 185+ mph for the later models - you decide. __________________ 2001 Esprit V8

09-15-2008, 12:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
andykeck Meow talk lotus one day? Join Date: May 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 4,929 Images: 1	Most, if not all, Esprits have two gas tanks and two fillers, If I understand correctly, the tanks should equalize through a crossover tube, but it can be faster just to fill both tanks at the same time.

09-15-2008, 02:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
chapster5 Photochopper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 2,639 Images: 6	lol, cool, just asking im not such a big fan on esprits hence m knowing nothing about them im more of an Exige S fan (such a thing of beuty ) thanks for the info guys!!! (my sisters boyfriend say an ariel atom pull up the other day :O he put somthing like £96 of fuel in or somthing like that, then he said to him i have at leas 13 more of these at home because he drives for a team DAMN!!!!) __________________ http://www.chuforiagraphics.com/ FOR ALL YOUR GRAPHICS NEEDS CONTACT KEITH ON: sweetdaddydelicious (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

09-15-2008, 06:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
JohnnyQuik Registered lUser Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 317	I used to park between two rows of pumps and pump both sides at once just to mess with people. And my Esprit was real slow... like low 4 second 0 to 60, high 12 second quarter mile slow. __________________ JohnnyQuik current toys: '05 Elise '72/'79 MGB '06 Z4

09-15-2008, 07:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
lotus4s Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 82	The 4 cylinder Esprits have fuel tank fillers on both sides of the car. The later V8's while still having two tanks only have a filler on one side. __________________ 1995 S4s 1994 S4 brg Visit my website: http://sites.google.com/site/jkesprit/

09-17-2008, 08:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
Bibs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 77	It was in 1998 that Lotus changed to a single filler on the right hand side so it effects both V8's and GT3's. Some say it's because it's cheaper to only fit one side out and every little helps on the weight saving too! *NB - Little known fact #1 - The X180-R had a fixture on the balance pipe which would block it. This was so that on long corners the fuel wouldn't surge out of the tank with the fuel pump in through the pipe to the other, non fuel pump side!

12-29-2008, 01:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
Alphonse Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 909 Images: 10	deleted. Last edited by Alphonse : 12-29-2008 at 01:22 PM. Reason: misread

01-05-2009, 08:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
Rodewaryer Open road explorer Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 167	Yep, the two tank issue is a non issue. My Sunbeam has one in each rear wing and a rather large cross over tube as well with just one filler cap. Not sure how many others are the same, but I suspect some Jag's have two tanks as standard equipment as well.....it's probably not all that unusual. __________________ "Political correctness is tyranny with a happy face". Charleton Heston 1923-2008

01-06-2009, 07:16 AM	#15 (permalink)
Roger Ancient Briton Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, TX Posts: 487	My Europa has twin tanks and fillers, and it was an option on the Mini Cooper 'S' I seem to remember.

01-11-2009, 09:48 AM	#16 (permalink)
Greg Z Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Alexandria, La. Posts: 15	I don't understand why anyone would want to pump into both tanks at one time. That means the second hose is laying over the back side of your prize, ugh, I don't think so. not to mention the time it takes to pay again at the other pump, remove the gas cap, place the hose etc., I think I will just stick with filling up with one hose. __________________ ESPRIT SE then a few not really worth mentioning, like : NSX - TT C5 - 850CI - MB SL - INDY FIERO -IMPALA(10sec 1/4)

01-11-2009, 11:14 AM	#18 (permalink)
fitfan Regurgitated User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego! Posts: 4,089	my TVR had two tanks connected with a crossover as well, only one filler. but i think the fuel meter was like... in some other tank somewhere... in typical tvr fashion! __________________ Driving it around!

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01-11-2009, 02:16 PM	#19 (permalink)
Jeff Torrey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 178	The Esprit was originally designed with two tanks so that when you went into the water they would act as a ballist to keep the car somewhat bouyant. It said in the owners manual that it was best to drive underwater with tanks half full. Last edited by Jeff Torrey : 01-11-2009 at 02:17 PM. Reason: Spell check

01-11-2009, 03:49 PM	#20 (permalink)
...m... Denuo Volatilis Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,715	...but the submersible model came after the dual fuel tanks: the real reason is because colin chapman's first corollary dictates that two is better than one... "If less is more, think of how much more more would be!" __________________ 2005 Federal Elise \| Touring \| Storm Titanium ...73,000 miles and aging beautifully... 2000 New Beetle \| Turbo \| Reflex Silver ...107,000 miles of steadfast service...