Is there such a thing as a FWD (front-wheel drive) sportscar?

[PhlypSide]

Originally Posted by AV8NDOC

I think the answer lies in here somewhere:





Well, I vote 1 and 3 for sure !!

Definitely not 2 as he don't got no Elise

Yay! You're right I don't have a Lotus Elise I drive a Kia Elan and am violently jealous of you Lotus Elan guys.

[Elanlover]

Originally Posted by PhlypSide

Bahahaah I don't like FWD cars >=P I didn't notice all the M100 n00bs making personal attacks.

Hey, there's no personal attacks here. We're having a bit of fun but we're not being rude. You had some at our expense. We're just joshin' with ya.

Originally Posted by PhlypSide

FWD != sportscar, no matter how blue in the face you and the M100 posse get trying to convince the rest of the world otherwise

Not sure what this: FWD != sportscar means. Can you help me out? Is the exclamaiton point signifying something?

Oh, can I please join your forum? I noticed you're not allowed to see anything until you join. Are you hiding somethign over there? Top secret stuff? FWD stuff?

You're not all openly confessing your love of FWD behind closed doors are you? Come on, let me in. I promise I'll be nice............mostly.

One more thing, have you changed your mind yet? Don't make me post another 65 times in one thread to convince you. I'll do it you know. I swear I will........really.

[PhlypSide]

Originally Posted by zr1fan

There has never been a FWD Thunderbird that I'm aware of. The last gen was a 2-seat RWD car based on the Lincoln LS (non-econobox) platform.

So I suppose then to you it's a sports car, despite it's boulevard ride tuning and lack of all-out performance. So clearly you really feel that if you can check some boxes, it's a sports car, and the actual car and experience are totally irrelevant. It's quite a corner you've painted yourself into.

Edit: You'd also have to concede that the Plymouth Prowler is a sports car, as it satisfies your checkboxes.

Thanks for the update on the 2002-2005 Thunderbird.

It would appear that the Thunderbird and the Prowler are both sportscars, not ones I would purchase, but sportscars nonetheless.

"I've painted myself into a corner"? LOL! (I'm actually literally laughing, you're like the Comicbook store guy from the Simpsons.)

wh000p3333f0000king d000? Would you like a star, cookie, or Scooby Snack or something?

PS: Did I ever say the Prowler wasn't a sportscar?

[PhlypSide]

Originally Posted by Elanlover

Hey, there's no personal attacks here. We're having a bit of fun but we're not being rude. You had some at our expense. We're just joshin' with ya.



Not sure what this: FWD != sportscar means. Can you help me out? Is the exclamaiton point signifying something?

Oh, can I please join your forum? I noticed you're not allowed to see anything until you join. Are you hiding somethign over there? Top secret stuff? FWD stuff?

You're not all openly confessing your love og FWD behind closed doors are you? Come on, let me in. I promise I'll be nice............mostly.

One more thing, have you changed your mind yet? Don't make me post another 65 times in one thread to convince you. I'll do it you know. I swear I will........really.

There are plenty of personal attacks, I'll be sure to either A) Ignore or B) report them, or C) both

Join up if you like, it's free

I won't change my mind, it's my mind, and your time

[Elanlover]

Originally Posted by PhlypSide

Yay! You're right I don't have a Lotus Elise I drive a Kia Elan and am violently jealous of you Lotus Elan guys.

Well gawddamn! Why didn't you say so. No need to be jealous. We can hook you up with a REAL sportscar ride in no time. There's a few real beautiful REAL Elans for sale we can help you out with.

Gotta do something about that site though:

http://notfwd.com/main/index.php

I signed up as "SidePhlyp". I thought it was catchy...........

Originally Posted by PhlypSide

Would you like a star, cookie, or Scooby Snack or something?

Yes please. Scooby dooooo!

Lastly, what's this???: FWD != sportscar

[PhlypSide]

Originally Posted by chrisngrod

So that's pretty comical that you don't consider a sportscar anything that is FWD, but you can take the drivetrain out of a Celica, put it in the rear and change other components to make one.

So you're saying that since girls underpants are made from cotton and you're wearing cotton underpants that you're wearing girls underpants? Now that's pretty comical.

Surely you understand more than this?

That is a silly idea that motors and transmissions can't be re-used. This argument is about the placement of the drivewheels not what's driving them. DUH

Don't be mad because you got stuck with the lesser 1ZZ and we've got the 2ZZ

[PhlypSide]

Originally Posted by Elanlover

Well gawddamn! Why didn't you say so. No need to be jealous. We can hook you up with a REAL sportscar ride in no time. There's a few real beautiful REAL Elans for sale we can help you out with.

Gotta do something about that site though:

http://notfwd.com/main/index.php

I signed up as "SidePhlyp". I thought it was catchy...........

Yes please. Scooby dooooo!

Wow, you actually did sign up. Sweet, now some other fun can begin! Thanks!

Sorry you can't keep the name though, how does ElanWhiner sound to you?

[Geordie]

Originally Posted by PhlypSide

M100 guys who think their cars are sportscars.

At least they are Lotus cars. And your current mode of transport is......?

[AV8NDOC]

Here's a 1984 sports car then . . .



oh, crap, did they have a back seat?

what are your rules for a rumble seat?

[PhlypSide]

Originally Posted by dapinky

Hi Phil,

I feel that now we're all mates (buddies?) I can call you that, although I see from your profile that your name is actually Jack (or is that to confuse me?).

I find it amusing that people feel the need to hide behind a pseudonym whilst making somewhat inapropriate (if not downright disparaging) remarks. Yes, my name IS dapinky!!!!

Hey, bud, where did you get the idea that I started the personal attacks on pages 9 / 10 ? I CAN do personal attack, but this is not the time or place for unecessary nonsense!

I put forward reasoned argument in a civil and courteous manner, and where i drifted into opinion, it was clearly stated to be such.
........

I believe that if you were to read it correctly (Plain Queens English, not colloquialism) you will have to concede that point!

You started with the personal attacks in your second post, I replied to your first one with a welcome and a difference of opinion, but no personal attacks.

Perhaps in your second post you meant "you" in the generic second person as opposed to me? I can only write off your anti-American comments as part of the game as well again though, no worries.

I'm fine now though, thanks.

I even promise not to call M100s "hairdressery"

[PhlypSide]

Originally Posted by Geordie

At least they are Lotus cars. And your current mode of transport is......?

I'm hurt. [facetious]My Kia Elan is as much of a Lotus as your Elan is![/facetious]

Why oh why do you have even the slightest inkling that I actually care what you think I drive. I'll let you smugly think I've got nothing, so at least *you* can think *you're* right LOL.

[Elanlover]

Originally Posted by PhlypSide

...........how does ElanWhiner sound to you?

It was taken..........

Some guy named Jack I believe..........

FWD!

Oh, you know what? I recorded the sound of myself saying "PhlypSide" over and over again then played it backwards. I could have sworn I could hear "I LOVE FWD" !!! Man, you are one complex and tricky dude! I might be starting to like you...........

FWD != sportscar = ????????

[smoseley]

Originally Posted by Elanlover

FWD != sportscar = ????????

!= is programming syntax for a "not equal" comparison.

I think a more appropriate statement is:

FWD = m100 ? sportscar : !sportscar;

[Elanlover]

Originally Posted by transio

FWD = m100 ? sportscar : !sportscar;

Hmm............

M100~`+cosign360'Elangreatsportscarthatprovesanytd rivetraincanbeasportscar}%^2*arbitraryinsertation@ #

[smoseley]

Originally Posted by Elanlover

Translation:

"If the FWD vehicle is an m100, it's a sportscar, otherwise, it's not a sportscar."

[Elanlover]

Did it work????

[dapinky]

Now I'm extremely puzzled!

Sometimes you take direct quotes, sometimes you (Yes, You, Phill!) generalise, it all depends if you think you're winning any points.

Here's a direct challenge, you find ANY part of my post which is a direct insult/first attack and put it up for all to see.

I'll then explain, in simple terms so that anyone can understand it, what it actualy means when the literal phraseology is examined. Just remember, like a bricklayer needs a trowel & a mechanic needs a spanner;- Carefully chosen words are the tools of MY trade!

I'm not at all sure why you think I'm anti-American??? That is a quantum leap by any standards! I'm proud to be English, and defend my right to be patriotic, without resorting to Jingoism. I only ever tried to point out that just because you live in America, there are other places in the world, some of us get different cars to you, but we're all Gods Children.

I love America, I used to have a home there before the ex-wife got it!

[PhlypSide]

Originally Posted by transio

!= is programming syntax for a "not equal" comparison.

I think a more appropriate statement is:

FWD = m100 ? sportscar : !sportscar;

Thanks Steve

[PhlypSide]

Originally Posted by dapinky

Now I'm extremely puzzled!

Sometimes you take direct quotes, sometimes you (Yes, You, Phill!) generalise, it all depends if you think you're winning any points.

Here's a direct challenge, you find ANY part of my post which is a direct insult/first attack and put it up for all to see.

I'll then explain, in simple terms so that anyone can understand it, what it actualy means when the literal phraseology is examined. Just remember, like a bricklayer needs a trowel & a mechanic needs a spanner;- Carefully chosen words are the tools of MY trade!

I'm not at all sure why you think I'm anti-American??? That is a quantum leap by any standards! I'm proud to be English, and defend my right to be patriotic, without resorting to Jingoism. I only ever tried to point out that just because you live in America, there are other places in the world, some of us get different cars to you, but we're all Gods Children.

I love America, I used to have a home there before the ex-wife got it!

Like I said earlier, no worries. I read your entire second post as attacks of some sort of another and already responded to them, no need to repeat them here for pissing-match "rights"

I took what could've been anti-American comments (e.g. "my house is older than your country", which I'm thinking you meant to jab that since you Britons have been around longer you--rightfully should--have more experience in certain things), as just your playing along in the jab game.

No skin off my back really, especially when considered in good fun

And I love England, without it there'd be no English nor Lotus..... nor "Top Gear" nor "The Young Ones" arguably my two favorite British shows

PS: If you're a Young Ones fan, you'll know what I mean when I call you a "fascist". LOL!

[Elanlover]

Originally Posted by PhlypSide

So you're saying that since girls underpants are made from cotton and you're wearing cotton underpants that you're wearing girls underpants? Now that's pretty comical.

Is that a personal attack on chrisngod's underwear??!!! You are really stooping to new lows now. Poor defenseless panties.

By the way, you've admitted (I'll get the quote from previous pages if you like) that the M100 is a true sportscar. Its FWD as we know. You've admitted that RWD and AWD are sportscar platforms. SO, haven't you just, thereby said, that the drivetrain platform doesn't determine if a car is a sportscar???


Come on..........you know you want to......

Say it.