Bald Tires - Page 2 - LotusTalk

Julian73 · 02-04-2013, 01:37 PM

Good points, and while we do have switchable vehicle stability control to help idoit proof the car, even that while measuring yaw rates, accelerations, etal is also pre-programed with assumptions so as to stay ahead of the game, don't think differnet tire constrcutions is part of the database.

West-of-Hethel · 02-10-2013, 07:11 PM

Just to be clear, I am actually running the combination now, and have been for something like 16k miles. All speeds, all conditions, all kinds of roads. Frankly, I will trust my experience over your theory, fellas, no offense.

To those reading this who are thinking about replacing rears only, I can tell you that the Pirelli F Michelin R combination is fine. But don't believe me: try it yourself. If you replace the back tires and find handling is compromised, well then, go ahead and replace the fronts as well.

If you're taking your car to the track, then by all means buy proper track rubber and all that. Listen to your favorite tire expert. But not the experts that one guy here on the Board keeps quoting-- the ones that told him that 3 extra psi would cause his tires to explode... when Lotus quotes 7 extra psi for high speed work!

pioneer0943 · 02-12-2013, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pioneer0943

I just happened to notice the rear tires (original P-Zeros) on my MY 2011 Evora are almost completely bald. This is on a car with barely 5,000 miles. The front tires seem fine. Can't understand why so bad. I have not put any strain on the wheels that I can recall.

They appear to need to be replaced but would I need to replace all four?

My Evora is a DD and 5,000 miles on a set of tires is not good. In fact based on the way the tires looked, I probably should have replaced them at 4,000.

Don't know enough about tires to make judgments so I rely on reviews both here and on line. Tire Rack says Michelin Pilot SS are ranked #1. Pirelli P-Zeros are #24. Got 2 Michelin's for the rear at $325 each with 45K warranty. So far so good.

JLSELISE · 02-12-2013, 08:53 AM

The Michelins seem to be a good tire, and mine are holding up well in the first 1K miles.
But your 45K warranty probably only applies to road hazard coverage and has nothing to do with tread wear

. Life of the Michelins on the rear may be about 10K miles, but not much more, I expect.

Chhirowolf · 02-12-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pioneer0943

My Evora is a DD and 5,000 miles on a set of tires is not good. In fact based on the way the tires looked, I probably should have replaced them at 4,000.

Don't know enough about tires to make judgments so I rely on reviews both here and on line. Tire Rack says Michelin Pilot SS are ranked #1. Pirelli P-Zeros are #24. Got 2 Michelin's for the rear at $325 each with 45K warranty. So far so good.

I have never been a fan of tire racks rankings. have been burned a couple of times. That being said I believe the Pilot SS is a very good choice. used tehm on my G35 coupe adn they held up very good, but no where near 40k miles.

Plackslayer · 02-12-2013, 08:33 PM

Maybe not 45k miles but I do have 15k so far on mine.

niclipse · 02-13-2013, 08:27 AM

I replaced all of my tires with a comparable model for cheaper and so far, they have surpassed the 6,000 mile mark that the pzeros wore out on in the rear and the ride quality wasnt compromised.

Changed back tires to a new brand/model and now the car floats at high speeds

pioneer0943 · 02-16-2013, 05:22 PM

Talked to a Michelin dealer to get clarification on my 45K warranty on the new Pilot SS tires. He said the 45K does warrant tread life. However, he told me that since I have a car with tires that can't be rotated, as apparently required by the warranty, my warranty would only be 50% applicable - or 22.5K miles.

Toaster · 02-22-2013, 01:22 PM

Couple of thoughts, the factory spent a lot of time choosing the tyres and setting the car up for these for optimal performance, its a performance car with performance tyres........

I am not saying don't fit other tyres, i'm not saying you may notice a change of performance but for me whilst they do wear fairly quickly I am really happy with the balance and grip they seem to give and wont be changing to another make

brgelise · 02-24-2013, 04:41 AM

Ditto! If I get a couple of summers I'd rather have fresh tires. Granted the are not an LTS spec tire though.

Toaster · 02-24-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by brgelise

Ditto! If I get a couple of summers I'd rather have fresh tires. Granted the are not an LTS spec tire though.

If you can get hold of this video Lotus Evora - The Making of Modern Icon - YouTube it will show the development of the car and Matt Becker talking about tyre choice

brgelise · 02-25-2013, 04:25 AM

Yup saw it long time ago. Gonna be some guys with 5 yr old tires saving a few bucks???

Plackslayer · 02-25-2013, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by brgelise

Yup saw it long time ago. Gonna be some guys with 5 yr old tires saving a few bucks???

I feel if you have 5+ year old tires on your car, you haven't driven it enough in the first place.

02-12-2013, 08:53 AM	#24 (permalink)
JLSELISE Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 969	The Michelins seem to be a good tire, and mine are holding up well in the first 1K miles. But your 45K warranty probably only applies to road hazard coverage and has nothing to do with tread wear . Life of the Michelins on the rear may be about 10K miles, but not much more, I expect. __________________ Joel '67 S3 Elan dhc (owned since 1970) '06 Audi A3 3.2 '10 Evora (Carbon Grey/Charcoal) Last edited by JLSELISE; 02-13-2013 at 08:13 AM.

02-13-2013, 08:27 AM	#27 (permalink)
niclipse Modded Up! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 190	I replaced all of my tires with a comparable model for cheaper and so far, they have surpassed the 6,000 mile mark that the pzeros wore out on in the rear and the ride quality wasnt compromised. Changed back tires to a new brand/model and now the car floats at high speeds __________________ Pirelli PZero's for sale: http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f95/...7/#post1846400

02-24-2013, 04:41 AM	#30 (permalink)
brgelise Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: CT Posts: 2,500 Images: 9	Ditto! If I get a couple of summers I'd rather have fresh tires. Granted the are not an LTS spec tire though. __________________ 04 Skip Barber Race School, Competition certificate 04 Jaguar XJ Vandan Plas Radiance Red Ivory leather 08 Isuzu Ascender Lux Flint Grey, Grey leather 10 Lotus Evora Persian Blue, Charcoal w/Ivory header 11 BMW Xdrive35d, Vermillion Red w/Cinnamon Brown 2005 Elise gone but never forgotten as it taught me to drive quickly!

02-25-2013, 04:25 AM	#32 (permalink)
brgelise Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: CT Posts: 2,500 Images: 9	Yup saw it long time ago. Gonna be some guys with 5 yr old tires saving a few bucks??? __________________ 04 Skip Barber Race School, Competition certificate 04 Jaguar XJ Vandan Plas Radiance Red Ivory leather 08 Isuzu Ascender Lux Flint Grey, Grey leather 10 Lotus Evora Persian Blue, Charcoal w/Ivory header 11 BMW Xdrive35d, Vermillion Red w/Cinnamon Brown 2005 Elise gone but never forgotten as it taught me to drive quickly!

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02-10-2013, 07:11 PM	#22 (permalink)
West-of-Hethel Pirelli F, Michelin R Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Houston, USA Posts: 333	Just to be clear, I am actually running the combination now, and have been for something like 16k miles. All speeds, all conditions, all kinds of roads. Frankly, I will trust my experience over your theory, fellas, no offense. To those reading this who are thinking about replacing rears only, I can tell you that the Pirelli F Michelin R combination is fine. But don't believe me: try it yourself. If you replace the back tires and find handling is compromised, well then, go ahead and replace the fronts as well. If you're taking your car to the track, then by all means buy proper track rubber and all that. Listen to your favorite tire expert. But not the experts that one guy here on the Board keeps quoting-- the ones that told him that 3 extra psi would cause his tires to explode... when Lotus quotes 7 extra psi for high speed work!

02-12-2013, 08:33 PM	#26 (permalink)
Plackslayer wait what? Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 2,785	Maybe not 45k miles but I do have 15k so far on mine.

02-16-2013, 05:22 PM	#28 (permalink)
pioneer0943 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Elmhurst, IL Posts: 33	Talked to a Michelin dealer to get clarification on my 45K warranty on the new Pilot SS tires. He said the 45K does warrant tread life. However, he told me that since I have a car with tires that can't be rotated, as apparently required by the warranty, my warranty would only be 50% applicable - or 22.5K miles.

02-22-2013, 01:22 PM	#29 (permalink)
Toaster Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: UK Posts: 59 Images: 5	Couple of thoughts, the factory spent a lot of time choosing the tyres and setting the car up for these for optimal performance, its a performance car with performance tyres........ I am not saying don't fit other tyres, i'm not saying you may notice a change of performance but for me whilst they do wear fairly quickly I am really happy with the balance and grip they seem to give and wont be changing to another make

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