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Old 01-12-2011, 09:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Best sounding exhaust

Kreissieg's exhaust certainly sounds great, but I'm not sure it's very quiet at normal driving. It seems loud at every speed. So I have mixed feelings about it. Not to mention it costs quite a bit over other aftermarket exhausts.

Sounds almost like an airplane while cruising (@0:35s).. What the heck did they put inside this exhaust, little spinning valves?


Here's Kreissig's full playlist.

btw.. you could probably get your car as loud with exhaust cutouts, but of course that would be illegal, even electric ones.. not that I have thought about it, cuz I haven't ya know?

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Old 01-12-2011, 11:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That sounds really good!

Here's my 2GR swapped MR2 Spyder with open headers (just finished swap).. revs come at end of clip.

Here's a clip of the completed exhaust being revved (excuse poor narating abilities)

Here's a driving clip

FYI my exhaust uses modified (for flow and fitment) Toyota catalyst headers, a custom y-pipe, a Lexus ES350 main cat (modified for larger inlet/outlet), a Borla dual exit straight through muffler and 2 Borla tips.

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Old 01-13-2011, 05:46 AM   #5 (permalink)
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kreissieg is a valved exhaust so there is the option of closing the valve to may it quite for normal driving.
im gonna get a kreissieg exhaust for my quattroporte
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Kreissieg SOUNDS great... but that is all it does.

The exhaust is built solely for the sound. It is MUCH heavier than a stock exhaust on every car they make one for. It also demolishes power. They do not do dyno testing, or even care about performance. It is all for show.

If you're ok with that, and are down to pay what they charge, do it-- otherwise, steer clear.
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Old 01-13-2011, 07:27 AM   #7 (permalink)
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That's exactly what my customer is looking for. Thanks for the post!
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Kreissieg SOUNDS great... but that is all it does.

The exhaust is built solely for the sound. It is MUCH heavier than a stock exhaust on every car they make one for. It also demolishes power. They do not do dyno testing, or even care about performance. It is all for show.

If you're ok with that, and are down to pay what they charge, do it-- otherwise, steer clear.
Wow, that's pretty disappointing to hear. Why the heck would they make an exhaust system to degrade performance? When you say it 'demolishes' power, how much are we talking about? To me 'demolish' sounds like it turns the Evora into a pig. It's impossible to tell in the videos, but I don't see anything out of the ordinary. Every other aftermarket exhaust system for offered for the Evora is significantly lighter over the stock exhaust, so I'm finding it hard to believe something like this, especially what it costs, kills performance.

I mean, wow. It sounds phenomenal. Better than exhausts I've heard on most cars, including supercars. Plus, no other Lotus I've seen sounds this good.

I take it you've had some experience with Kreissieg's products? You're not just passing on hearsay are you?
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:13 AM   #9 (permalink)
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No other Lotus sounds as good? Have you heard an Esprit V8?
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Wow, that's pretty disappointing to hear. Why the heck would they make an exhaust system to degrade performance? When you say it 'demolishes' power, how much are we talking about? To me 'demolish' sounds like it turns the Evora into a pig. It's impossible to tell in the videos, but I don't see anything out of the ordinary. Every other aftermarket exhaust system for offered for the Evora is significantly lighter over the stock exhaust, so I'm finding it hard to believe something like this, especially what it costs, kills performance.

I mean, wow. It sounds phenomenal. Better than exhausts I've heard on most cars, including supercars. Plus, no other Lotus I've seen sounds this good.

I take it you've had some experience with Kreissieg's products? You're not just passing on hearsay are you?
Lol-- I already made the same comment in the last thread that brought up KS, and you made the same comments again.

A bunch of Maserati guys bought them a while back and the exhaust weighed about 2x as much as the stock exhaust (full exhaust, mind you-- so it was like 60 pounds more or so) and sapped around 20-30 HP off the car.

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this is the best exhaust I've ever heard. not a lotus but dang.

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this is the best exhaust I've ever heard. not a lotus but dang.
Oh yeah. Love that F1 sound. F355's are legendary, at one point the best sportscar in the world.
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Lol-- I already made the same comment in the last thread that brought up KS, and you made the same comments again.

A bunch of Maserati guys bought them a while back and the exhaust weighed about 2x as much as the stock exhaust (full exhaust, mind you-- so it was like 60 pounds more or so) and sapped around 20-30 HP off the car.

They should have listened to the sponsor on the forum who warned them
oh well. On their website, their garage is just loaded with supercars... That's a lot of suckers...

I'm gonna try finding out how much it weighs over stock. Maybe they have that info.
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Old 01-14-2011, 03:28 AM   #14 (permalink)
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We should contact Kreissieg and get a group buy going! 50% off or something for 10 orders
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Sounds like my 97 integra with full catless cat back system, sounds good but gets annoying after awhile, can't even here the radio.
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:37 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Good news.

After a little digging, I found out that the weight of the stock exaust system is 17.8kg~39lbs. The Kreissieg exhaust is 15kg~33lbs, -6lbs over stock.




BTW, I took spent a little time compiling some comparisons. Here's what I have so far:

- Larini Evora Sport Exhaust @ ~18lbs, I doubt it's much louder than the stock exhaust, despite being over $1100 (they demo'ed it with their non-road-legal straight pipe, so I don't know how it really sounds, but I wasn't too impressed regardless)

- Quicksilver Evora Exhaust@ 11kg~24lbs, £790($1255), no videos available.

- PB Racing Evora exhaust - no available info.

- Janspeed Evora Exhaust , someone said this exhaust is sold by Lotus.
Is it the Evora "Sport" Exhaust? No available info, unfortunately.

-Blueflame Lotus EVORA DOWN PIPE BACK System REMOVING SECOND , £582 ($924)

-Supersprint Evora Exhaust - €950 ($1269)

-Komo-Tec Sport Exhaust Silencer for the Evora - €849 ($1134)

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Old 01-17-2011, 10:49 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Hi there,


from my view the Kreissieg exhaust is developed only for sound not for performance! I΄m also thinking about a rear exhaust and I will purchase the Komo-Tech. Here are soundfiles from Komo-Tech HP:

starting up

passing

Sounds not brutal but powerful. It΄s made of stainless steel, fits great and it weighs only 9 kg!


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The Kreissieg sounds awesome, too bad about the power sapping though...
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About to purchase the Kreissieg full sytem sound 2 and 5 for a customer and noticed that there are no guarantees with CEL issues. Has anyone installed the Kold Fire manifolds and flash with the Kreissieg?
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The Kreissieg sounds awesome, too bad about the power sapping though...
i still would like to see someone prove this. i have heard a number of people say this but i havent seen any dynos to prove this
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