Evora S announced! 400hp - LotusTalk

sponge · 08-05-2008, 08:04 PM

Autoblog: Lotus Evora has room for supercharger, 400 hp "S" variant coming - Autoblog

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After the Evora was officially revealed in London, Lotus CEO Michael Kimberley has made it clear that more variants of the 2+2 were on the way. Six different versions are planned, including a convertible – originally confirmed the day the Evora debuted – that will keep the coupe fresh over its eight-year lifespan.

While a drop-top is nice, power is what the people crave. So within two years expect another naturally aspirated variant that boosts the 3.5-liter V6's engine from 280 to 320 hp. After that, it's all about forced induction. The mid-mounted V6 has been positioned in the engine bay to accept a supercharger, which will bring output up and over 400 hp, dropping the 0-60 time to under four seconds and making the Evora "S" a serious contender to the Porsche 911 Turbo.

LordZ · 08-05-2008, 08:07 PM

Gonna be another 2-3 years at least. They are wanting to drag the model out over an 8 year life cycle. That is also starting to sound 6 figures to me.

Smoky · 08-05-2008, 08:12 PM

True..but ya gotta pay to play...

To me, this just means the next Esprit is going to be that much cooler.

jlj3394 · 08-05-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sponge

Autoblog: Lotus Evora has room for supercharger, 400 hp "S" variant coming - Autoblog

Strip some babyfat off it as well and you'll have a serious contender on the track.

2800 lbs and 400 HP will compete.

Flash G · 08-05-2008, 08:14 PM

What this says to me is that the Esprit is going to be one HELL of a car!

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eurosport · 08-05-2008, 08:21 PM

So, the 400hp Evora was announced by.......................Autoblog?

Chris Mackey · 08-05-2008, 08:23 PM

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The mid-mounted V6 has been positioned in the engine bay to accept a supercharger, which will bring output up and over 400 hp, dropping the 0-60 time to under four seconds and making the Evora "S" a serious contender to the Porsche 911 Turbo.

Assuming the 911 Turbo doesn't improve.

This is a poor strategy, imho.

SouL · 08-05-2008, 10:02 PM

The 997 turbo isn't even in the same price range.
Unless I'm mistaken, prices for a 997 turbo is easily upwards of 150K.

A 20K premium over a non-SC evora is still a bargain over a 150K used 997 Turbo.

~100K+ can buy a lot of nice GTs, though.

fitfan · 08-05-2008, 10:08 PM

lotus should just introduce the supercharged version at the same time and let the customers decide how much HP they wanna pay for... get all the good press up front!

if they drag it out, its like the "fiero" all over again - by the time its kick ass, nobody cares anymore!

shokwaves · 08-05-2008, 10:20 PM

By the time 400 hp arrives, the 911 turbo will be well above 500 hp. out of the box and still awd. Will still spank the Evora for close to the same $.

noobified · 08-05-2008, 10:23 PM

400HP from a 2800lb. car is cool...but not 3 years from now...

fitfan · 08-05-2008, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shokwaves

By the time 400 hp arrives, the 911 turbo will be well above 500 hp. out of the box and still awd. Will still spank the Evora for close to the same $.

does anyone have any insider knowledge if the esprit will be awd - VVA has awd capability...

i also (don't shoot me!) think a phev evora would be pretty cool !!- rather fisker'ish anyways

Genomaxter · 08-05-2008, 11:31 PM

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After the Evora was officially revealed in London, Lotus CEO Michael Kimberley has made it clear that more variants of the 2+2 were on the way. Six different versions are planned, including a convertible – originally confirmed the day the Evora debuted – that will keep the coupe fresh over its eight-year lifespan.

While a drop-top is nice, power is what the people crave. So within two years expect another naturally aspirated variant that boosts the 3.5-liter V6's engine from 280 to 320 hp. After that, it's all about forced induction. The mid-mounted V6 has been positioned in the engine bay to accept a supercharger, which will bring output up and over 400 hp, dropping the 0-60 time to under four seconds and making the Evora "S" a serious contender to the Porsche 911 Turbo.

What that says to me is that Lotus will indeed use the 2GR-FSE engine later on for N/A power... but how much more will it cost? If its more than $4k then you might as well just buy the first Evora then buy the 2GR-FSE from toyota and swap it. Hell, you dont even have to wait for it to come out, just swap out the 2GR-FE and you have the 320hp variant before they ever release it. Then go out and buy yourself a supercharger and bam, your 2 years ahead of the curve.

Aedo · 08-06-2008, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by fitfan

does anyone have any insider knowledge if the esprit will be awd - VVA has awd capability...

hope not!

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Originally Posted by fitfan

i also (don't shoot me!) think a phev evora would be pretty cool !!- rather fisker'ish anyways

That would be cool!

Monsi · 08-06-2008, 12:56 AM

AWD = yuk... so not lotus either

FLuXeXigeS · 08-06-2008, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jlj3394

Strip some babyfat off it as well and you'll have a serious contender on the track.
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hence the Exige S

i doubt the major selling point of this car would be track use...it will completely negate the elise/exige line up

but a 400hp+ evora seems pretty good

maybe the new esprit will be 550-600hp?

Cegan09 · 08-06-2008, 05:04 AM

didn't think this would be that big of a surprise. It was hinted at before that a higher powered version would be available down the road. And isn't this what Lotus usually does? introduce the car then build the power. Just look at the Exgie line, or the Esprit line.

Bavarian Motorist · 08-06-2008, 06:06 AM

Why all these comparisons to the 911 turbo? Just because the article stated it? The Evora will never compete with the Turbo!!! That's what the Esprit will do. The Evora SC will be more of competition for a Carrera S. This is really awesome news.

pooky5333 · 08-06-2008, 06:08 AM

It is mean to compete with the 911 GT3 since it will weigh less and have more power. The turbo is not even the best 911 the gt3 is.

MickOpalak · 08-06-2008, 06:53 AM

During the Evora presentation at LOG28, Roger Becker did show a slide of the Evora engine with a supercharger on it, so its a pretty sure bet. Also, they showed a CAD drawing of the Esprit chassis with engine and suspension, but did say that they still haven't decided on whether it will be a V8 or a V10. Both will fit longitudinally.

08-05-2008, 08:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
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fitfan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego! Posts: 3,127	lotus should just introduce the supercharged version at the same time and let the customers decide how much HP they wanna pay for... get all the good press up front! if they drag it out, its like the "fiero" all over again - by the time its kick ass, nobody cares anymore! __________________ Driving it around!

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noobified Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 452	400HP from a 2800lb. car is cool...but not 3 years from now... __________________ 2008 Lotus Exige S 240 Aspen White - FOR SALE SOLD! MODS: JVC KD-AVX44 w/ Full-Time Rearview Camera, IPOD Control & Bluetooth \| Polk db401 Front Speakers \| Polk db521 Rear Speakers Rest In Peace, Little Sister.

08-05-2008, 08:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
LordZ 06 SY Exige Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 607	Gonna be another 2-3 years at least. They are wanting to drag the model out over an 8 year life cycle. That is also starting to sound 6 figures to me.

08-05-2008, 10:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
SouL Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laguna Hills Posts: 789	The 997 turbo isn't even in the same price range. Unless I'm mistaken, prices for a 997 turbo is easily upwards of 150K. A 20K premium over a non-SC evora is still a bargain over a 150K used 997 Turbo. ~100K+ can buy a lot of nice GTs, though.

08-05-2008, 10:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
shokwaves Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Carson, California Posts: 755	By the time 400 hp arrives, the 911 turbo will be well above 500 hp. out of the box and still awd. Will still spank the Evora for close to the same $.

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Monsi Statistical Anomaly Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kauai Posts: 1,351 Images: 21	AWD = yuk... so not lotus either __________________ Dude, there's my car!

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Cegan09 Talking to myself Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Worcester or South of Boton depending on the time of year Posts: 550	didn't think this would be that big of a surprise. It was hinted at before that a higher powered version would be available down the road. And isn't this what Lotus usually does? introduce the car then build the power. Just look at the Exgie line, or the Esprit line. __________________ 1987 Porsche 924S - So Close to running '05 Elise - Dads

08-06-2008, 06:06 AM	#18 (permalink)
Bavarian Motorist Live to Drive Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Rye, NY Posts: 8,370	Why all these comparisons to the 911 turbo? Just because the article stated it? The Evora will never compete with the Turbo!!! That's what the Esprit will do. The Evora SC will be more of competition for a Carrera S. This is really awesome news. __________________ Driving a Lotus Exige with sticky... performance tires on icy roads or in standing water is about as much fun as walking a high wire treated with WD-40 - Car & Driver BWR supercharged... I suppose I "got the power" now??

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pooky5333 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 25	Evora It is mean to compete with the 911 GT3 since it will weigh less and have more power. The turbo is not even the best 911 the gt3 is.

08-06-2008, 06:53 AM	#20 (permalink)
MickOpalak LOG29 Co-chairman Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 4,570	During the Evora presentation at LOG28, Roger Becker did show a slide of the Evora engine with a supercharger on it, so its a pretty sure bet. Also, they showed a CAD drawing of the Esprit chassis with engine and suspension, but did say that they still haven't decided on whether it will be a V8 or a V10. Both will fit longitudinally. __________________ 2007 Exige S265 - Krypton Green - Gotham 265 ECU - Volk TE37s - Toyo R888s - B&M Shifter - QuickSilver exhaust - stripes - harnesses - Pagid pads - Green air filter LOG29 - http://www.log29.org President - Lotus Limited Southeast http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/LLSE/

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