Evora vs. Cayman S - LotusTalk

ajp33 · 05-06-2009, 05:47 AM

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Lotus Evora v Porsche Cayman S - Tester?s notes

Monsi · 05-06-2009, 12:59 PM

you can't expect lotus to suddenly make a stellar interior just like you can't expect an american car company to suddenly produce something worth buying...

but if you buy a lotus for the interior you are doing it wrong

Bavarian Motorist · 05-06-2009, 01:08 PM

So basically: Quality of Evora interior sucks. Evora sounds like crap too.

But it's faster (are they sure...?), handles better, steers better, and drives better than the Cayman.

Yep...Sounds like a Lotus...

Monsi · 05-06-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

So basically: Quality of Evora interior sucks. Evora sounds like crap too.

But it's faster (are they sure...?), handles better, steers better, and drives better than the Cayman.

Yep...Sounds like a Lotus...

the idea of porsche padding their power numbers doesn't seem all that hard to believe

Bavarian Motorist · 05-06-2009, 01:22 PM

I doubt they do that... This is a 911 motor basically. I think they just cripple it in the gearing department to make it slower than the 911 Carrera.

aschen · 05-06-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Monsi

you can't expect lotus to suddenly make a stellar interior just like you can't expect an american car company to suddenly produce something worth buying...

but if you buy a lotus for the interior you are doing it wrong

As long as we are interjecting unrelated bias, I'll remind all that a similarly priced Z06 will absolutly embarass either of these cars at any contest of speed on any type of track on any given day.

Its surprising the evora is said to accelerate Better than the S, it will be interesting to see what further quantitative testing says.

MikeinAlexandria · 05-06-2009, 01:29 PM

I actually like the interior of my Elise. It is simple, only has what I need, no extra junk. Kind of like my 1966 Mustang, but with a decently reliable motor, a suspension that actually works and responsive steering. I do hope the Evora does well, it certainly looks interesting!

Bavarian Motorist · 05-06-2009, 01:32 PM

I doubt it actually is faster... Might just have better mid-range...

Also, does anyone else get the feeling these British cars mags are really, really biased toward the Evora? Think Car & Driver's love affair with the Corvette...

Bavarian Motorist · 05-06-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeinAlexandria

I actually like the interior of my Elise. It is simple, only has what I need, no extra junk. Kind of like my 1966 Mustang, but with a decently reliable motor, a suspension that actually works and responsive steering. I do hope the Evora does well, it certainly looks interesting!

Sure the Elise has an OK interior, but anybody would be hard pressed to argue the quality of the materials are high....

bueno · 05-06-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

I doubt it actually is faster... Might just have better mid-range...

Also, does anyone else get the feeling these British cars mags are really, really biased toward the Evora? Think Car & Driver's love affair with the Corvette...

Not really and especially not with AutoCar...they'll trash any British automaker if they deserve it.

Bavarian Motorist · 05-06-2009, 01:44 PM

Good to know.

bueno · 05-06-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

Sure the Elise has an OK interior, but anybody would be hard pressed to argue the quality of the materials are high....

Other than Lotus, I don't think anyone actually believes their interiors are of high quality but, then again, as you stated, no one buys a Lotus for their interiors.

Allan Gibbs · 05-06-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

I doubt it actually is faster... Might just have better mid-range...

Also, does anyone else get the feeling these British cars mags are really, really biased toward the Evora? Think Car & Driver's love affair with the Corvette...

I had a sense it article was a bit biased against the Evora. I also thought some parts of the Evora's interior could use some improvement but no where near as bad as the author.

As for the Cayman, what Cayman S is he comparing the Evora too? I'd think the 2009 Cayman S would accelerate faster than the Evora. Then again, I'd think the 296hp would too.

Allan Gibbs · 05-06-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bueno

.... no one buys a Lotus for their interiors.

Yes, but the Evora is supposed to be different (or at least aimed at a different market) so interior matters as much as an automatic transmission.

bueno · 05-06-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Allan Gibbs

Yes, but the Evora is supposed to be different (or at least aimed at a different market) so interior matters as much as an automatic transmission.

I agree with that statement but I was referring to the Elise/Exige interior since the other person had mentioned it. Automatic as you know is more of a marketing thing-overall, you'll sell more cars if you offer it.

fitfan · 05-06-2009, 05:34 PM

It also steers more sweetly than the Cayman, which is some achievement, while its all-round double wishbone suspension provides a level of composure that is just breathtaking, even in the soaking wet conditions in which most of this test took place. What you notice most jumping from one to another is the extra agility and composure of the Evora when you’re really going for it. It changes direction with such precision and immediacy, all the Cayman driver can do is watch in awe. It’s that well sorted, is the Evora, yet at the same time it’s that much more comfortable than the Cayman as well.

if thats true - it is very promising indeed!

mopho · 05-06-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

I doubt it actually is faster... Might just have better mid-range...

Also, does anyone else get the feeling these British cars mags are really, really biased toward the Evora? Think Car & Driver's love affair with the Corvette...

Quite the contrary actually, the only person at Car and Driver who was really a fan of Corvettes left over a year ago.

dickedup · 05-06-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bueno

Other than Lotus, I don't think anyone actually believes their interiors are of high quality but, then again, as you stated, no one buys a Lotus for their interiors.

But this is the year 2009 in the 21st century.

dickedup · 05-06-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

I doubt they do that... This is a 911 motor basically. I think they just cripple it in the gearing department to make it slower than the 911 Carrera.

The engines on all Caymans are well under-powered from their 911 series brothers. Why? Because when they have the very same lumps the Snapper has the very best times around places like the Ring.

It's weird I know.

bueno · 05-06-2009, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dickedup

But this is the year 2009 in the 21st century.

You must have missed my post.

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Originally Posted by bueno

I agree with that statement but I was referring to the Elise/Exige interior since the other person had mentioned it.

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Monsi Statistical Anomaly Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kauai Posts: 2,289 Images: 21	you can't expect lotus to suddenly make a stellar interior just like you can't expect an american car company to suddenly produce something worth buying... but if you buy a lotus for the interior you are doing it wrong __________________ Dude, there's my car!

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Bavarian Motorist Live to Drive Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC/Westchester, NY Posts: 10,850	So basically: Quality of Evora interior sucks. Evora sounds like crap too. But it's faster (are they sure...?), handles better, steers better, and drives better than the Cayman. Yep...Sounds like a Lotus... __________________ Be an alpha male. Drive a Lotus.

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Bavarian Motorist Live to Drive Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC/Westchester, NY Posts: 10,850	I doubt they do that... This is a 911 motor basically. I think they just cripple it in the gearing department to make it slower than the 911 Carrera. __________________ Be an alpha male. Drive a Lotus.

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MikeinAlexandria Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 431 Images: 5	I actually like the interior of my Elise. It is simple, only has what I need, no extra junk. Kind of like my 1966 Mustang, but with a decently reliable motor, a suspension that actually works and responsive steering. I do hope the Evora does well, it certainly looks interesting! __________________ 2005 Elise in Racing Green with the touring pack 2007 MINI Cooper S in Sparkling Silver 2001 BMW Z3 Coupe in Sapphire Black (sold) 2002 MINI Cooper in yellow (sold) 1996 BMW Z3 Roadster (Racing Dynamics version) (sold) Founder of the Racing Green Confederate

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Bavarian Motorist Live to Drive Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC/Westchester, NY Posts: 10,850	I doubt it actually is faster... Might just have better mid-range... Also, does anyone else get the feeling these British cars mags are really, really biased toward the Evora? Think Car & Driver's love affair with the Corvette... __________________ Be an alpha male. Drive a Lotus.

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Bavarian Motorist Live to Drive Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC/Westchester, NY Posts: 10,850	Good to know. __________________ Be an alpha male. Drive a Lotus.

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fitfan Regurgitated User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego! Posts: 4,083	It also steers more sweetly than the Cayman, which is some achievement, while its all-round double wishbone suspension provides a level of composure that is just breathtaking, even in the soaking wet conditions in which most of this test took place. What you notice most jumping from one to another is the extra agility and composure of the Evora when you’re really going for it. It changes direction with such precision and immediacy, all the Cayman driver can do is watch in awe. It’s that well sorted, is the Evora, yet at the same time it’s that much more comfortable than the Cayman as well. if thats true - it is very promising indeed! __________________ Driving it around!

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