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post #1 of 85 (permalink) Old 11-04-2010, 08:39 PM Thread Starter
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Jack stands?

I was trying to put the rear of the car on jack stands today, but found that other than the specified jack points at the back (there are two), there seems to be no other area where I could safely load the car onto actual jack stands once the wheels came off. Anyone try to put the car on stands and if so, how (with only one jack that is)?
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Hi. Start here. Lots of info. There are more jack points after you remove the undertray and diffuser.

Jacking the Elise and Placing on Jackstands

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henrus might have been asking about instructions for an Evora not an Elise.

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I have not had to do this for my Evora yet, but I'm pretty sure this procedure that works well on other cars will also work for it.
You will need two floor jacks:
First jack up a corner of the car using the recommended jacking point.
Remove the wheel.
Position the second floor jack at the lower ball joint of the suspension upright and jack up the suspension (making sure the jack is free to roll as the suspension compresses) until the car lifts off the first floor jack.
Remove the first floor jack and replace it with a jack stand.
Lower the suspension so that the jacking point rests on the jack stand.
Removing the jack stand requires the reverse procedure.

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Position the second floor jack at the lower ball joint of the suspension upright and jack up the suspension (making sure the jack is free to roll as the suspension compresses) until the car lifts off the first floor jack.
Could you elaborate a bit more on the lower ball joint? Pic/diagram would be awesome.

Yes, this is for an Evora. Thanks.
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That would be basically the area where the suspension upright (hub) attaches to the lower a-arms. Shown roughly by the tip of the yellow triangle in the pic below for the rear of an Evora. Note in this case the lower attachment point for the shock absorber is also in the same area. Best to use a hard rubber pad or some wood between the jack and the jacking point in this area to spread the load and accommodate irregularities between the parts.
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That would be basically the area where the suspension upright (hub) attaches to the lower a-arms. Shown roughly by the tip of the yellow triangle in the pic below for the rear of an Evora. Note in this case the lower attachment point for the shock absorber is also in the same area. Best to use a hard rubber pad or some wood between the jack and the jacking point in this area to spread the load and accommodate irregularities between the parts.
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In futhering this discussion, would we not be able to use the rear subframe crossmember as a jack stand location?





To me, it looks like jack stand point D on the Elise/Exige:



Pop off the diffuser, raise the car & place the stands as so.

Is there any reason this shouldn't be done?

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Position the second floor jack at the lower ball joint of the suspension upright and jack up the suspension (making sure the jack is free to roll as the suspension compresses) until the car lifts off the first floor jack.
I don't think you meant to say ball joint.
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kestrel74, do you have an Evora?
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If all else fails.............you could read the manual.
The manual doesnt describle how you can transfer from a jack to a jackstand as per manual only lift points are the same spot. manual does say DO NOT lift from suspension.

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It's been a while since I looked under my Evora, but are the lift pads large enough to accommodate both the jack and a jack stand, provided your jack doesn't interfere with the stand's base for position?
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no jack stands - ramps - my solution

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I was trying to put the rear of the car on jack stands today, but found that other than the specified jack points at the back (there are two), there seems to be no other area where I could safely load the car onto actual jack stands once the wheels came off. Anyone try to put the car on stands and if so, how (with only one jack that is)?
These worked for the Astro Van (the front weighs as much as the entire Elise), Elise, and now are used for the Evora:

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Problem with ramps is that you are still on the wheels - I need to get both wheels off = lift or jack stands... A lift I know how to use - but do not have... Jack stands I have but do not know how to get the Evora onto lol.
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watching as well....jacks and stands on the way and for some reason Lotus made this much more annoying than the Elise...

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Has anyone come up with a decent solution to this quandary?

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Has anyone come up with a decent solution to this quandary?
Here is my solution:

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Here is my solution:

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Very nice. Did you install this after garage slab was poured? Also what keeps it from collapsing in-wards?

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Very nice. Did you install this after garage slab was poured? Also what keeps it from collapsing in-wards?
I installed it in a 25 year old slab, with a few cracks.
5 threaded anchors are inserted into to the slab, for each post. You draw up a bolt in each anchor to expand them into the 7/8 inch holes drilled in the slab, like a Rivnut. The lift posts are just bolted to the slab anchors, and the lift is rated for 6,000 pounds capacity. Most Commercial shop lifts are similarily just bolted to floor anchors. The bars you see on them across the floor or the top, are just for running cables or hydrolic lines. As shown on the Youtube, you can unbolt the posts and store the whole lift aside. I just leave it up, and keep the race car parked there, or up on it.
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