Price of the Evora

[def]

But can you GET a 430 at that price?

[...m...]

Originally Posted by def

But can you GET a 430 at that price?

...i've no idea - that's well beyond my price range, and i've never particularly cared for ferraris, either...still, MSRP to MSRP is a fair comparison...

...used GTs, however, are quite easy to find in the $100k range in excellent condition...personally, i've come to appreciate that the new car experience is vastly overrated; i think it's a fantastic bargain to not only let someone else take the initial depreciation hit, but also to know from the outset what one's getting into with a well-sorted platform history...

[Rei]

After reading so much press about the new Lotus offering I'm becoming more and more depressed. Think of it as this though with the 2grfe engine you get to pump 87octane in your "gt" car. Least it looks good.

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by ms355

German car magazine 'auto motor und sport' reported today on their website that Lotus confirmed a base price of appr. 70,000 Euro for the Evora - available in Germany in the beginning of 2009.

Lotus Evora: Der Preis Auto + Produkte bei auto motor und sport

That would be almost 110k $, but I'm sure Lotus will offer a generous discount for US customers.

At $100K+, why would anyone buy it when an Audi R8 starts at $109K?

[Bavarian Motorist]

Originally Posted by Rei

Think of it as this though with the 2grfe engine you get to pump 87octane in your "gt" car. Least it looks good.

What makes you think Lotus didn't tune the engine for higher octane?

[Icedog_16]

Originally Posted by Conrad

Nope no hidden tariffs here (nor state taxes...) as for sale numbers, honestly dont know, but Switzerland (pop about 8 million ) has 6 dealerships, and in California (pop about 38 million) their are 11, and whole of US has 43 for a population of over 300 million, the ration is in favor of switzerland , initially Lotuses goal was to sell 10% of its production to the US

If you look at second hand offerings, as per autotrader only 36 Exige and 96 Elise cars in all of the US versus, 80 exige/192 Elise in continental europe, 22 exige/42 Elise in Switzerland (no Switzerland is not part of europe) and 71 exige/259 elise in the UK , which roughly speaking would put proportion at 80/20, so in line with Lotus sales projections not an exact science by any means. But would tend to indicate that while the US is an important market for Lotus it is not really that big, and therefore volume pricing cannot apply in the same way as Porsche/BMW.

As a matter of interest what is the price of a new Ferrari 430 your side of the pond ? because the US is a VERY important market for them, and it would be interesting to see their pricing , in Switzerland they retail for about 250'000 $ for the coupe.

And I do think the EUR/USD/YEN will enter the equation since the chassis is paid for in euro, the motor in Yen.

My point is that the price of Elises here changed as the exchange rate between the GBP and USD changed; fluctuations between the EUR and USD have not been reflected in the MSRP to my knowledge.

[Vicar]

Originally Posted by ...m...

...initial reactions were based on simply converting euros to US dollars, but i'm sure it'll actually be priced to suit the US market - baseline gallardos with a handful of miles on the odometer do start around $100k, though...

Show me where they are! I've been casually shopping for a used Gallardo for several months. 2004's start at about $120k. The few cars I've found below that are truly suspect.

[Esprit]

If it does not sell under the $60K mark it will fail.... I really love the look, but once the novelty runs out you're left with a 3000lb 4.9 0-60 car with an average interior and small dealer network. How does it distinguish itself from the rest of the competition?? Unless it can outperform others in its class and have everything from heated memory electronic seats to highend audio and technology packages, etc.., than it can be justified at $70-$80K. Until then... it better be at BoxterS prices...

[Esprit]

Originally Posted by Vicar

Show me where they are! I've been casually shopping for a used Gallardo for several months. 2004's start at about $120k. The few cars I've found below that are truly suspect.

Here are a few... I know of some great ones at around 105ish... The cars below can all be talked down about 10K... Right now NO ONE IS BUYING EXOTICS... Sucks to sell right now...

2004 Lamborghini Gallardo $104,000 Grigio Altair Metallic, AUTO, V10, Stock# A00701.
Dealer: Auto Buying Network (Miami, FL ~2,436 mi. away)
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10 $111,00017,890 mi.2004 Lamborghini Gallardo
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9 $114,00019,820 mi.2004 Lamborghini Gallardo
Black, 2 door, Coupe, MANUAL, Stock# A01469.
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18 $114,95015,472 mi.2004 Lamborghini Gallardo
Charcoal, Hatchback, MANUAL, V10, Stock# A00101.
Dealer: Hollywood Imports, Inc. (Vestavia, AL ~1,870 mi. away)
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15 $114,99524,625 mi.2005 Lamborghini Gallardo
Yellow, 2 door, AWD, Coupe, MANUAL 6SPD, 5.0L V10, Stock# V3100.
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7 $115,90014,458 mi.2004 Lamborghini Gallardo
Giallo Midas, 2 door, AWD, Coupe, 6-Speed E-Gear, V10, Stock# U07-258.
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12 $115,9509,670 mi.2004 Lamborghini Gallardo
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12 $115,9507,330 mi.2004 Lamborghini Gallardo
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Dealer: Prestige Imports (North Miami Beach, FL ~2,438 mi. away)
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32 $115,99912,578 mi.2004 Lamborghini Gallardo
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11 $116,95010,209 mi.2004 Lamborghini Gallardo
Silver, 2 door, AWD, Coupe, E Gear, V10, Stock# R116.
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7 $117,00018,500 mi.2004 Lamborghini Gallardo
Yellow, 2 door, 4WD, Coupe, Automatic, 10 Cylinders.
Classified Ad: Ali ( ~208 mi. away)
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10 $118,9999,700 mi.2004 Lamborghini Gallardo
2 door, Coupe, V10, Stock# 714.
Dealer: Interstate Motorsport (Neptune City, NJ ~2,458 mi. away)
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14 $119,90018,146 mi.2004 Lamborghini Gallardo
Yellow, 2 door, 4X4, Coupe, Automatic, 10 Cylinders, Stock# A00900.
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22 $119,90021,295 mi.2004 Lamborghini Gallardo
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9 $119,900-2004 Lamborghini Gallardo
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$119,90011,273 mi.2004 Lamborghini Gallardo
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24 $119,9004,100 mi.2004 Lamborghini Gallardo
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6 $119,99513,431 mi.2004 Lamborghini Gallardo
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12 $119,99513,000 mi.2004 Lamborghini Gallardo
Silver, 2 door, AWD, Coupe, 10 Cylinders, Stock# M3724.
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10 $119,99921,950 mi.2004 Lamborghini Gallardo
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Dealer: Motorcars Direct (Irvine, CA ~251 mi. away)
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[Esprit]

Here are some 2007 Porsche 911 under $68K. Things are only going to get worse for sports cars in the next year or two... This is a great time to buy...
The Evora has to make buyers look at almost new 911's and make them rather pay for the Lotus... If priced right, they might get the folks to buy Evora.. Let's hope!


$43,991 32,856 mi.2007 Porsche 911
Silver, 2 door, Coupe, MANUAL, MANUAL, Stock# 7U781040
Dealer: Fox of Laurel (Laurel, MD ~2,323 mi. away)
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$62,4441 2,417 mi.2007 Porsche 911 Carrera
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Dealer: Niello Porsche (Rocklin , CA ~156 mi. away)
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20 $64,900 9,444 mi.2007 Porsche 911 Carrera
Arctic Silver, 2 door, Coupe, MANUAL 6SPD, 3.6L H6, Stock# PP2241.
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19 $64,900 9,657 mi.2007 Porsche 911 Carrera
Arctic Silver, 2 door, Coupe, MANUAL 6SPD, 3.6L H6, Stock# PP2244.
Dealer: Park Place Motorcars (Dallas, TX ~1,328 mi. away)
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11 $64,995 14,088 mi.2007 Porsche 911 Carrera
Carmona Red Metallic, 2 door, Coupe, MANUAL, 3.6L H6, Stock# 710072.
Dealer: Elite Motors of Coral Gables (Miami , FL ~2,438 mi. away)
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10 $65,997 896 mi.2007 Porsche 911 Carrera
Midnight Blue Metallic, 2 door, Coupe, MANUAL 6SPD, 3.6L H6, Stock# P4189.
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25 $66,900 9,749 mi.2007 Porsche 911 Carrera
Arctic Silver Metallic, 2 door, Coupe, MANUAL 6SPD, 3.6L H6, Stock# PP2242.
Dealer: Park Place Motorcars (Dallas, TX ~1,328 mi. away)
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16 $66,994 10,034 mi.2007 Porsche 911
2 door, Coupe, MANUAL 6SPD, 3.6L H6, Stock# W1906A.
Dealer: Tom Williams Porsche Audi (Irondale, AL ~1,876 mi. away)
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9 $67,2113,992 mi.2007 Porsche 911 Carrera
Silver, 2 door, Coupe, MANUAL, 3.6L H6, Stock# 86403B.
Dealer: David R. Mcgeorge Car Co. Inc. (Richmond, VA ~2,306 mi. away)
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16 $67,9724,601 mi.2007 Porsche 911
Silver, 2 door, Coupe, MANUAL 6SPD, 3.6L H6, Stock# 5496.
Dealer: Paul Miller Porsche (Parsippany, NJ ~2,434 mi. away)
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16 $67,9724,907 mi.2007 Porsche 911
Silver, 2 door, Coupe, MANUAL 6SPD, 3.6L H6, Stock# 280366B.
Dealer: Paul Miller Porsche (Parsippany, NJ ~2,434 mi. away)
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[Vicar]

Holy Cow! Where'd you pull all those up from? That's awesome.

[FLuXeXigeS]

Ebay/Autotrader/cars.com

[Conrad]

Originally Posted by ...m...

2008 F430 Coupe - MSRP $186,925 (75%)

Coo taking into account the about 10'000 $ for transport and paperwork and stuff their is a biz opportunity here ! and look at the Porsches they are all a good 40/50'000 $ less than equivalent here.

As for the gallardos but the problem with the Gallardo is that if you track it/drive it hard the clutch on the flappy paddle version only last 5000k and costs the best part of 6000$ to change wonder who much it is to change in the U.S. ?

Well instead of coming to the US with empty suitcase and coming home with clothes and stuff, I should charter a RO-RO and bring back cars

[LotusPhish]

Just got an email from Fox Valley Motors in Chicago that the base price will be $69,900

[DeanG]

Originally Posted by Conrad

Well instead of coming to the US with empty suitcase and coming home with clothes and stuff, I should charter a RO-RO and bring back cars

There are lots of empty containers going out these days

[GabbaGabbaHey]

Originally Posted by DeanG

There are lots of empty containers going out these days

Not from my experience, you have to book several weeks in advance to get a container on a ship heading to Europe. Lots of goods moving East.

Less than 70K phew, , now I don't have to eat a scorpion sucker.

A Cayman S with just a couple of items gets up to 70K in a hurry.

Caveat, don't be when you put in your order specs, wait patiently, then a week before it arrives.. oooppss its now 75K

As mentioned before 70K does buy a Z06 Corvette; a not too shaby GT that weighs only 100 lbs more and can get 26 mpg on hwy. You have to really want those back seats and exclusivity whilst expecting Lotus to nail the handling, steering feel to give up 200 HP.

Hmm.. should start a poll on who's in.

[CanadianRedline]

From my piont of view it will be interesting to see how the pricing ends up in Canada. I was one of the first to get an Elise here, and at the time we got screwed on the price. They have come down over the last year or so, but with our dollar on par with the US$ most days, it will be interesting to see where the Evora falls in. At $70K, it's right in Exige territory here. Don't forget, that a Z06 'Vette was going for around $103K here for no apparent reason. I've seen new ones in the paper for under $80k now, so perhaps the market is evening out.

I still love my Elise. In Toronto I see at least one Lambo a day (not just the same one over and over) but I go weeks without seeing another Elise. I was at my dealership the other day, and as I was getting out of my car a Gallardo went by. I had just passed it parked on the street in front of the Jag/Aston/Bentley dearship on the same block, and as it went past screaming like a banshee after a 200' of acceleration, all I could think was "that thing should be shot". A beautiful piece of art, but where is it ever going to be driven at it's potential in North America. A Lambo here is like having a Great Dane in a condo.

[CanadianRedline]

Now, if I was going to drop a wad of cash on a car after colecting my lottery winnings, this would be it.

Iconicmotors - Home

800 hp. 'Nuff said.

[ms355]

Why shouldn't Lotus ask for £ 45k for the Evora when other people ask for £ 20k for the 'ultimate' Evora vanity plate?

LOTUS EVORA E17ORA REGISTRATION NUMBER PLATE CHERISHED on eBay, also, Cherished Numbers, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 05-Aug-08 22:14:52 BST)

[AgentTripleX]

Originally Posted by Icedog_16

+1 Especially when you consider that the target competition is the Cayman/Cayman S.

The Elise SC smokes the cayman.

Originally Posted by ...m...

...at $100k you're talking lamborghini money; lots of proper GT competition in that price range...

Uh... no. A Gallardo LP560-4 with options is around 260k.