EFI misconceptions and rumors

[robains]

In summary:

1. Kris (DRS) gets an opportunity
2. If Kris's work still has issues, then Charlies get an opportunity
3. Don, if Charlie gets an opportunity you get my EFi (assuming you still want it)
4. If Charlie's work still has issues, then the car goes back to 100% stock

And you can't say I didn't give this a good go, but I do warn all that touch my car, I WILL be extremely vigilant on the quality of work. I'm putting this car back together in such a way Lotus wish they could emulate.

Thanks for everyone's input/opinions, Don, Charlie, Kris, and more.

[dmh]

Originally Posted by Kris from DRS

Don,
Don't confuse me (DRS) with anyone else. We have worked closely with EFI for several years on several projects. I've personally been involved with mapping and data analysis for customers in various forms of professional motorsport. You can have your opinions of FF and anyone else, but you don't know me or my history so please refrain from assuming that we are merely marketing to the Lotus community.

You don't see me going around making assumptions about your business and your services. And as a fellow LCS sponsor I would hope you would have the same courtesy, but you seem to like "tip toeing" on the edge and its pretty obvious. Not sure why...

Kris

No harm intended…

Is you post based on the following sentence? "Do not confuse EFI with either DRS or ForceFed -- they are merely marketing to Lotus enthusiasts." Is that not true? If so, what then is wrong? How is that disrespectful to a fellow LCS sponsor?

Furthermore, I made no judgment about anyone's ECU programming ability or lack thereof. All I am trying to point out to fellow Lotus enthusiasts is that standalone ECUs such as the EFI that you market (???) is not designed for street usage. Neither is Motec, Autronics, Vi-PEC, etc. Not one of those companies will ever tell you that their product is OBDII or CARB compliant and no one in their right mind believes that they can ever rival a stock ecu recalibration such as done by CharlieX for Lotus, a professional using Dimsport for many other European cars, EFI Live for GM, etc.

I am all for standalone ECUs for race car applications – no limp mode issues. Yet no one in Grand Am has taken the stock ECU weight allowance bait and that ought to be telling. (We have been approached by two teams.)

It is also quite costly to setup and run a standalone:
ECU, $3000
install and dyno tuning, $3000
trackside assistance, $1000/day plus expenses