Need help: Apexi Power FC - LotusTalk

Solo2Elise · 06-01-2007, 11:24 AM

I contacted Apexi yesterday to inform the needs of the harness for Elise to hook up with Power FC.

They are interested in doing some research and asking me to provide an ECU diagram. Just wondering if anyone has a such thing?

Please let me know.

Thx!

choi0706 · 06-01-2007, 11:29 AM

look at charliex's diagram..

Solo2Elise · 06-01-2007, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by choi0706

look at charliex's diagram..

Mind telling me where to get it?

Beanie · 06-01-2007, 11:35 AM

Little Rocket is the only one who has done it so far. Wiring and connectors are problems, unlike in other cars using the 2ZZ-GE, but he's solved all that for the Elise. I think the way it stands currently, the Power FC functions in tandem with the stock Elise ECU, with the Eliise ECU controlling gauges and a few other things. I have a Power FC in my 2ZZ-GE engine swapped MR2 Spyder.

Solo2Elise · 06-01-2007, 11:38 AM

Yes, I understand wiring and connectors are problems that is what Apexi is going to look for.

2-Y-CHROMOSOMES · 06-01-2007, 12:07 PM

check monkeytuner in the technical library under "ECU connector pinout, OBD II pinout, BDM Pinout"

Solo2Elise · 06-01-2007, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2-Y-CHROMOSONES

check monkeytuner in the technical library under "ECU connector pinout, OBD II pinout, BDM Pinout"

I must be dumb. Cannot find "ECU connector pinout, OBD II pinout, BDM Pinout" part. Can you please send me the URL?

Thanks!

2-Y-CHROMOSOMES · 06-01-2007, 01:02 PM

"Techical Library" not technical

Westrock · 06-01-2007, 09:44 PM

You'll have to register to see that sub-forum.

Solo2Elise · 06-01-2007, 10:38 PM

Got it. Thanks all.
I will work with Apexi to see if they can make a harness for Elise.
It's going to be very interesting if we can use Power FC. $1200 w/ commander which will be the cheapest standalone ECU for us so far. Look forward to seeing that happens.

LittleRocket · 06-02-2007, 05:51 AM

If anyone can find the plugs for me to purchase a lot of I will GIVE you a harness and a tuned pfc. I have the wiring diagrams done as well as an existing harness manufacturer ready to tackle the job. I just need the hardware.

Beanie · 06-02-2007, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solo2Elise

$1200 w/ commander which will be the cheapest standalone ECU for us so far. Look forward to seeing that happens.

They are about $700 on ebay.

Lotus F1 · 06-02-2007, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleRocket

If anyone can find the plugs for me to purchase a lot of I will GIVE you a harness and a tuned pfc. I have the wiring diagrams done as well as an existing harness manufacturer ready to tackle the job. I just need the hardware.

LittleRocket... My harness is already cut. Do you have this PFC all sorted out. Can I just slice it into my current harness without the connectors and have my car up and running?

Bruce · 06-02-2007, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solo2Elise

I contacted Apexi yesterday to inform the needs of the harness for Elise to hook up with Power FC.

They are interested in doing some research and asking me to provide an ECU diagram. Just wondering if anyone has a such thing?

Please let me know.

Thx!

Are you/they aware that the 2005 and 2006 is different? They will need to make 2 different harnesses with 2 different sets of connectors.

LittleRocket · 06-02-2007, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotus F1

LittleRocket... My harness is already cut. Do you have this PFC all sorted out. Can I just slice it into my current harness without the connectors and have my car up and running?

Yes give me a buzz tomorrow. I though your car was up and running already?!??!?!?! Dunno why but I just thought stan would have it done by now. What all is left to be done?

Lotus F1 · 06-03-2007, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LittleRocket

Yes give me a buzz tomorrow. I though your car was up and running already?!??!?!?! Dunno why but I just thought stan would have it done by now. What all is left to be done?

We took some big delays due to bad pistons from Mahle and then waiting for the complete redesign of the manifold from turbokits.

All the parts should be in hand by next week.

I will definately call you about the PFC. I need to get that one last thing sorted out. I think its the best way for me to go econmical and practical wise..Thanks again!

Fryman · 06-18-2007, 02:01 AM

a powerfc for the exige s would be nice!!! 3 cheers if they are the same plug and this goes thru

Solo2Elise · 10-12-2007, 10:42 AM

Finally Apexi has some progress on the harness design now. They are looking for the solution to hook it up with gauge cluster. Anyone has an idea how to do it?

Also their harness is not going to be a all weather unit. They are asking opinions wheather to re-locate the ECU into the cabin or put an weather proof enclosure system to cover it? Feedback is welcomed.

charliex · 10-12-2007, 11:15 AM

its can bus, so all they have to do is send out the data in the right format at 1Mbps, the format is documented on here.

since the engine bay is open to the elements, it needs to be rain proof.

Solo2Elise · 10-12-2007, 11:30 AM

Charlie,

I could not find the doc about the format. Can you please point me where it is?
Thanks!

06-01-2007, 11:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
Solo2Elise Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 367	Need help: Apexi Power FC I contacted Apexi yesterday to inform the needs of the harness for Elise to hook up with Power FC. They are interested in doing some research and asking me to provide an ECU diagram. Just wondering if anyone has a such thing? Please let me know. Thx!

06-01-2007, 11:29 AM	#2 (permalink)
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06-01-2007, 11:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
Beanie untitled Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 2,784	Little Rocket is the only one who has done it so far. Wiring and connectors are problems, unlike in other cars using the 2ZZ-GE, but he's solved all that for the Elise. I think the way it stands currently, the Power FC functions in tandem with the stock Elise ECU, with the Eliise ECU controlling gauges and a few other things. I have a Power FC in my 2ZZ-GE engine swapped MR2 Spyder. __________________ It is all about "Other".

06-01-2007, 12:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
2-Y-CHROMOSOMES Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 1,023	check monkeytuner in the technical library under "ECU connector pinout, OBD II pinout, BDM Pinout" __________________ 2005 Elise 250 whp \| Forcedfed Custom Intercooled Supercharger \| EFI \| Forcedfed Street Header \| Fujita CAI \| TB Bypass \| Toda flywheel \| ACT HD Clutch \| Forcedfed Prototype Exhaust \| Micromirror \| Forcedfed Half Carbon Splitter \| Greddy Catch Can \| ForcedFed Engine Damper

06-01-2007, 01:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
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06-01-2007, 11:38 AM	#5 (permalink)
Solo2Elise Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 367	Yes, I understand wiring and connectors are problems that is what Apexi is going to look for.

06-01-2007, 09:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
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06-01-2007, 10:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
Solo2Elise Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 367	Got it. Thanks all. I will work with Apexi to see if they can make a harness for Elise. It's going to be very interesting if we can use Power FC. $1200 w/ commander which will be the cheapest standalone ECU for us so far. Look forward to seeing that happens.

06-02-2007, 05:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
LittleRocket Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 188	If anyone can find the plugs for me to purchase a lot of I will GIVE you a harness and a tuned pfc. I have the wiring diagrams done as well as an existing harness manufacturer ready to tackle the job. I just need the hardware. __________________ Built 2zz powered, 6 speed-lsd mr2 spyder

06-18-2007, 02:01 AM	#17 (permalink)
Fryman gripgrip understeer death Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 82	a powerfc for the exige s would be nice!!! 3 cheers if they are the same plug and this goes thru

10-12-2007, 10:42 AM	#18 (permalink)
Solo2Elise Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 367	Finally Apexi has some progress on the harness design now. They are looking for the solution to hook it up with gauge cluster. Anyone has an idea how to do it? Also their harness is not going to be a all weather unit. They are asking opinions wheather to re-locate the ECU into the cabin or put an weather proof enclosure system to cover it? Feedback is welcomed.

10-12-2007, 11:15 AM	#19 (permalink)
charliex disproving HD MTBF daily Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas , NV Posts: 8,189	its can bus, so all they have to do is send out the data in the right format at 1Mbps, the format is documented on here. since the engine bay is open to the elements, it needs to be rain proof. __________________ Black Exige S - http://goth.am 265 Mule / Elan M100 ECU Tuning, http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39660

10-12-2007, 11:30 AM	#20 (permalink)
Solo2Elise Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 367	Charlie, I could not find the doc about the format. Can you please point me where it is? Thanks!

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