P0171 after SC installation

[Pelle75]

Have been driving the car 8 times after the installation and recieve the code "P0171 System Too Lean" everytime. The car runs good except for the P0171. No other modifications than Tri-point sc with xede piggy-back and no P0171 before the sc installation.

Checked for loose gas cap.
Checked the 3 hoses on the airbox.
Airbox closed and the filter (tested with old and new) is installed right.
New and fresh 95 octan gas.

Clean MAF?
Could I get P0171 if the xede wires crank, MAF and O2 are tapped wrong to the ECU? If so shouldnt the car run badly?
Beacuse the car runs extremly bad if the xede doesnt have any power.
Could it be beacuse of injection fault? if so shouldnt the car run badly?
An other suggestions?

Short movie of the first test drive
Movie here

/Per

[2-Y-CHROMOSOMES]

Originally Posted by Pelle75

Have been driving the car 8 times after the installation and recieve the code "P0171 System Too Lean" everytime. The car runs good except for the P0171. No other modifications than Tri-point sc with xede piggy-back and no P0171 before the sc installation.

Checked for loose gas cap.
Checked the 3 hoses on the airbox.
Airbox closed and the filter (tested with old and new) is installed right.
New and fresh 95 octan gas.

Clean MAF?
Could I get P0171 if the xede wires crank, MAF and O2 are tapped wrong to the ECU? If so shouldnt the car run badly?
Beacuse the car runs extremly bad if the xede doesnt have any power.
Could it be beacuse of injection fault? if so shouldnt the car run badly?
An other suggestions?

Short movie of the first test drive
Movie here

/Per

Check to see if you have a leaky injector cushion. Start the car and spray some electronic cleaner around the injectors and see if the idle increases.
I had gotten that same code from time to time. Never got it after reseating the injectors properly.
Do you have a no learn chip? If not you should talk to charlie.

[Pelle75]

Originally Posted by 2-Y-CHROMOSOMES

Check to see if you have a leaky injector cushion. Start the car and spray some electronic cleaner around the injectors and see if the idle increases.
I had gotten that same code from time to time. Never got it after reseating the injectors properly.
Do you have a no learn chip? If not you should talk to charlie.

Thanks will try that. Dont have the no learn chip.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Pelle75

Thanks will try that. Dont have the no learn chip.

Not to sound negative, but there have not been too many successful installs, over the long term anyway, without a non-learn ECU. PS, I emailed your Xede file.

[Pelle75]

Originally Posted by Dave

Not to sound negative, but there have not been too many successful installs, over the long term anyway, without a non-learn ECU. PS, I emailed your Xede file.

Thanks! Read about that hopefully its just a leaky injector

[2-Y-CHROMOSOMES]

Originally Posted by Pelle75

Thanks will try that. Dont have the no learn chip.

DO NOT RUN THAT CAR WITHOUT A NO LEARN CHIP!
Contact charlie and get a katana flash or get an EFI.
Its your engine....good luck. don't say I did not warn you

OOPS fix big type-o

[Dave]

Originally Posted by 2-Y-CHROMOSOMES

I would NOT run that car with a no learn chip!
Contact charlie and get a katana flash or get an EFI.
Its your engine....good luck. don't say I did not warn you

Mark, was that a typo? Running the Xede with a learning stock ECU is an ongoing tuning nightmare.

[2-Y-CHROMOSOMES]

Originally Posted by Dave

Mark, was that a typo? Running the Xede with a learning stock ECU is an ongoing tuning nightmare.

Yep that was a big type-o. Thanks Dave!

[Phantom]

Which SC kit is this?

Is the Katana (w/ a Charlie tune) the only kit with the "no learn" chip?

Good luck, and keep us posted...

[ZTEC]

Originally Posted by Phantom

Which SC kit is this?

Is the Katana (w/ a Charlie tune) the only kit with the "no learn" chip?

Good luck, and keep us posted...

This is a Tri-point sc kit with xede piggy-back

[charliex]

I'm not really selling the no-learn chips anymore, better off with the SC tune, so unless you really want to keep the xede for more tuning i'd go with
the straight xedeless ronin tune.

[Pelle75]

Originally Posted by charliex

I'm not really selling the no-learn chips anymore, better off with the SC tune, so unless you really want to keep the xede for more tuning i'd go with
the straight xedeless ronin tune.

Hey Charlie,

Will the xede tune work without the no-learning chip?

I found this thread, should I reset the ecu back to oem learn now and again?
Resetting the ECU back to OEM learn

Would like to keep the xede for more tuning.

[charliex]

no the reset is trickier, you run the car, switch the car off (key out) and then disconnect the battery completely before the relays clicks off.

I wouldnt run it without the no learn at least, if you really want no learn get a ronin have me change it to 'no learn' so it'll set the base line properly, zero out the xede, and then tune from there if you need too.

[Pelle75]

Originally Posted by charliex

no the reset is trickier, you run the car, switch the car off (key out) and then disconnect the battery completely before the relays clicks off.

I wouldnt run it without the no learn at least, if you really want no learn get a ronin have me change it to 'no learn' so it'll set the base line properly, zero out the xede, and then tune from there if you need too.

Maybe I should do as Frank told me "get a proper tune"

Could you sell me the xedeless ronin tune? If so send a reply (email) and tell me where to send the ecu and how much for the tune.

[Pelle75]

Talked with Wayne at Sinclaires he will help me with the Katana tune

[Ade]

You did replace the injectors with 440cc ones?

[Pelle75]

Originally Posted by Ade

You did replace the injectors with 440cc ones?

Used the injection which was included in the kit. Dunno if it was the 440cc?