Lotus Forum Lotus Forum
Go Back   LotusTalk - The Lotus Cars Community > Marketplace > Aftermarket Suppliers
User Name
Password
Register Home Forums Active Topics Gallery Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


       
Registered Members do not see the above ads. Please Register Today - It's quick and free!
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 05-07-2008, 09:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
really light stuff
 
Thomasio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,503
Really Light Stuff Mohawk / Roof Scoop

The really light stuff Mohawk / roof scoop fits over your existing Exige roof. 100% carbon fiber, made in the USA. Doesn't look like the mailbox solution that is out there...

(Also fits over the Elise roof and the Exige S roof - with the Exige S roof you will pop the inlet trim piece off).

Some people are bonding this directly over the roof to provide a bigger air inlet. Other customers are actually cutting off the stock Exige / Exige S roof scoop to provide improved airflow to the intercooler.

Others are bonding, blending and painting the roof completely. Remember the A/C Cobra hood scoops? Those weren't blended... there is beauty in utility.

Price: $788.00

Availability: now shipping.



Attached Images
 
__________________
07 SY Exige S
Really Light Stuff Intercooler . RLS Tubes . RLS Water/Methanol Injection . RLS 3.0" Pulley . RLS Wing Plates . RLS CF Window Panel

Last edited by Thomasio : 09-17-2009 at 10:40 AM.
Thomasio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 09:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
Dan D
 
LBC111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 1,409
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomasio View Post
Sneak peek...

The really light stuff Mohawk / roof scoop fits over your existing Exige roof. 100% carbon fiber, made in the USA. Doesn't look like the mailbox solution that is out there...

(Also fits over the Elise roof and the Exige S roof - with the Exige S roof you will pop the inlet trim piece off).

Some people are bonding this directly over the roof to provide a bigger air inlet. Other customers are actually cutting off the stock Exige / Exige S roof scoop to provide improved airflow to the intercooler.

Others are bonding, blending and painting the roof completely. Remember the A/C Cobra hood scoops? Those weren't blended... there is beauty in utility.

Price: $788.00

Availability: approximately 14 days.
Side view please? Is this an entire scoop replacement? If so, how do you bond/blend this piece over the seam/gap between the roof and the roll bar hoop? Doesn't that make the roof non-removeable? Is it a sectional piece like the stock one?
__________________
07 Exige S 265: GG, Track Pack, V1, RV Camera, S111 CF roof and splitter, 4.5-lb Voltphreaks battery, 10-lb Von Hep Exhaust, Green filter, 265 crank hp +/-, Volk TE 37 Wheels, RTDbrace, Scroth 6-point ASM harnesses, Innovative Motor Mounts, Saiku Michi Catch Cans. To come: IC fans, headers, and sport cat. 1955 lbs total weight (est w/tank half full)
05 Elise: Storm Titanium, Sport, Touring, Stage II (SOLD) (May '05 - Sept '06)
LBC111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 09:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
High Roller
 
JUNGLISTluder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 808
Images: 6
Would this serve any purpose on an Elise, other than aero drag?
__________________
96 Ferrari F355 Berlinetta
06 Lotus Elise Supercharged - SOLD
88 BMW 528is
JUNGLISTluder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 09:57 AM   #4 (permalink)
really light stuff
 
Thomasio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,503
Quote:
Originally Posted by LBC111 View Post
Side view please? Is this an entire scoop replacement? If so, how do you bond/blend this piece over the seam/gap between the roof and the roll bar hoop? Doesn't that make the roof non-removeable? Is it a sectional piece like the stock one?

Lots of photos etc. to follow in the next couple of days... this is just a sneak peek.

The version shown in the photo... that's a 2009 Exige ... will be bonded to your OEM roof panel. It does not affect removability of your roof panel.

To be clear: stock roof is used, and can be either: 1) Elise roof, 2) Exige roof, 3) Exige S roof.

The Mohawk is installed with an industrial adhesive, or alternatively with an industrial double-sided tape in conjunction with four pop rivets - one at each corner for peel strength.

Optionally, you can cut out your restrictive OEM roof duct with the included template, before bonding the rls Mohawk to your roof.
__________________
07 SY Exige S
Really Light Stuff Intercooler . RLS Tubes . RLS Water/Methanol Injection . RLS 3.0" Pulley . RLS Wing Plates . RLS CF Window Panel
Thomasio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 09:59 AM   #5 (permalink)
really light stuff
 
Thomasio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,503
Quote:
Originally Posted by JUNGLISTluder View Post
Would this serve any purpose on an Elise, other than aero drag?
While there are Elises running superchargers that may want to engineer a way to incorporate a roof duct such as this, the point is that you can use an Elise doner roof to create a Mohawk roof.
__________________
07 SY Exige S
Really Light Stuff Intercooler . RLS Tubes . RLS Water/Methanol Injection . RLS 3.0" Pulley . RLS Wing Plates . RLS CF Window Panel
Thomasio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 10:03 AM   #6 (permalink)
High Roller
 
JUNGLISTluder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 808
Images: 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomasio View Post
While there are Elises running superchargers that may want to engineer a way to incorporate a roof duct such as this, the point is that you can use an Elise doner roof to create a Mohawk roof.
Gotcha, thanks!
__________________
96 Ferrari F355 Berlinetta
06 Lotus Elise Supercharged - SOLD
88 BMW 528is
JUNGLISTluder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 10:13 AM   #7 (permalink)
No, I don't own a Le Car
 
9and3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Northern California
Posts: 231
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomasio View Post
Sneak peek...

The really light stuff Mohawk / roof scoop fits over your existing Exige roof.
Finally, the solution I was hoping for. Please post more pictures when available.
__________________
9and3
'07 Exige S, Performance Pack
9and3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 10:21 AM   #8 (permalink)
really light stuff
 
Thomasio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,503
And a semi-apology for all... the "sneak peeks" are irritating as h*ll from your standpoint, I know... but we all plan our purchases based on what is available, and I believe that in many instances these sneak peeks help with planning.
__________________
07 SY Exige S
Really Light Stuff Intercooler . RLS Tubes . RLS Water/Methanol Injection . RLS 3.0" Pulley . RLS Wing Plates . RLS CF Window Panel
Thomasio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 10:22 AM   #9 (permalink)
Registered User
 
NomisR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 743
Am I the only one that thinks that car in the picture doesn't look like a Lotus?
__________________
2006 Lotus Sport Elise #4 of 50
NomisR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 11:07 AM   #10 (permalink)
Super charged!
 
Vishus_1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Missouri
Posts: 1,038
Images: 62
Is this a cost effective alternative?

I would thing after you bond, rivet or whatever this to your roof and/or cut out the old scoop or opening, then sand, blend and paint this -won't it just wind up costing the same as if you would have bought a cheaper aftermarket fiberglass roof (as opposed to some of the cf options being offered now).

I really don't think this is intended to save any weight - it is about function right?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it just seems like this would require a LOT more effort and work with ultimately little cost savings after all is done. Save your time and buy a fiberglass roof that will only need priming (possibly) and paint.
Vishus_1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 11:56 AM   #11 (permalink)
06 S280
 
LordZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 1,305
Actually you are adding weight to the heavier stock roof over the cf alternatives out there. But it could be a cheaper solution depending on your costs from the body shop.
LordZ is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 12:42 PM   #12 (permalink)
No, I don't own a Le Car
 
9and3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Northern California
Posts: 231
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomasio View Post
...and I believe that in many instances these sneak peeks help with planning.
Yes, helpful. And for me, "researching" and looking forward to a purchase is half the fun. I like the sneak peeks!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vishus_1 View Post
Is this a cost effective alternative?
I'd estimate a bonded & painted installation would be less than $1k. Overall, it's still less than a new $3k top and more importantly, I get what I want: factory fit, headliner/insulation, original seals, and a factory look from the inside. (Selling the factory top to offset costs is unreliable since every new Exige came with a hardtop and they don't fit the Elise.)

I'm also weary (perhaps ignorantly) of the few report of aftermarket tops flying off.

Modifying my existing top seems like a good alternative. Like everything else out there, perhaps it is not for everyone but it may be for me.
__________________
9and3
'07 Exige S, Performance Pack
9and3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 01:15 PM   #13 (permalink)
Super charged!
 
Vishus_1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Missouri
Posts: 1,038
Images: 62
Quote:
I'd estimate a bonded & painted installation would be less than $1k. Overall, it's still less than a new $3k top and more importantly, I get what I want: factory fit, headliner/insulation, original seals, and a factory look from the inside.
If the mohawk is $788 I would think the remaining $212 it takes to be at $1000 is a conservative estimate. There needs to be some consideration that the roof will need to use filler or fiberglass to blend into the mohawk into the existing roof plus being resprayed (color matched) and entirely cleared.

If you can find someone who will do that with quality for $212 then more power to you. That wouldn't even cover the typical cost of labor in my area let alone the materials needed. Unless I am misunderstanding and you are doing this yourself - and even then I estimate time is worth something.

Quote:
I'm also weary (perhaps ignorantly) of the few report of aftermarket tops flying off.
As far as these stories about roofs flying off - it can happen to a factory roof if it isn't properly attached. This isn't isolated to aftermarket roofs.

One last point - it's the cf roofs that are going for around $3K, you can get a better deal on the fiberglass aftermarket versions - check Composites. I would be worried about blending two different materials anyway - cf mohawk to fg roof.
Vishus_1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 01:28 PM   #14 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: So Cal
Posts: 54
Cost effective? Cheaper? I like the looks. But, even Lotus admits privately that the mohawk scoop is a tradeoff on cost/benefits of disrupting laminar airflow over the car and channeling more air to the intercooler..

I admit I'm biased. My solution is found under the " Triple Airflow to the Intercooler" ducting kit found in the Powertrain/ Improvements section.
shoco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 02:04 PM   #15 (permalink)
No, I don't own a Le Car
 
9and3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Northern California
Posts: 231
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vishus_1 View Post
If the mohawk is $788 I would think the remaining $212 it takes to be at $1000 is a conservative estimate.
My "bonded & painted installation" estimate does not include hard parts. I'd ballpark under $2k for the complete job. Not that much in savings, but the other benefits might make it worthwhile to some.
__________________
9and3
'07 Exige S, Performance Pack
9and3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 02:09 PM   #16 (permalink)
really light stuff
 
Thomasio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,503
You can bond and rivet it yourself. No biggie.

If, on the other hand, you are planning to make it look like a one-piece roof... it would get expensive. That isn't the intention.

Cut off your old scoop w/ template: 1/2 hour. Bond & rivet: 1/2 hour. Do it yourself.

Example: 1) mark roof with template, cut off stock scoop with Dremel or air reciprocating saw. 2) wipe down roof with alcohol / thinner. 3) apply two beads of silicone adhesive. 4) drill four holes for pop-rivets. 5) pop rivet.

Not for everyone, just another option.
__________________
07 SY Exige S
Really Light Stuff Intercooler . RLS Tubes . RLS Water/Methanol Injection . RLS 3.0" Pulley . RLS Wing Plates . RLS CF Window Panel
Thomasio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 02:13 PM   #17 (permalink)
No, I don't own a Le Car
 
9and3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Northern California
Posts: 231
Thomasio-- Can you make a bond-on version of this scoop? j/k.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carpe | Viam View Post
(Click on the dot-matrix arrow next to the poster's name for the original thread.)
__________________
9and3
'07 Exige S, Performance Pack
9and3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 02:21 PM   #18 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Zinhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 292
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomasio View Post
You can bond and rivet it yourself. No biggie.

If, on the other hand, you are planning to make it look like a one-piece roof... it would get expensive. That isn't the intention.

Cut off your old scoop w/ template: 1/2 hour. Bond & rivet: 1/2 hour. Do it yourself.

Example: 1) mark roof with template, cut off stock scoop with Dremel or air reciprocating saw. 2) wipe down roof with alcohol / thinner. 3) apply two beads of silicone adhesive. 4) drill four holes for pop-rivets. 5) pop rivet.

Not for everyone, just another option.
How about duct tape???
Zinhead is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 02:23 PM   #19 (permalink)
Twisties Addict
 
Bgwilly31's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cincy, OH
Posts: 1,880
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoco View Post
I like the looks. But, even Lotus admits privately that the mohawk scoop is a tradeoff on cost/benefits of disrupting laminar airflow over the car and channeling more air to the intercooler..
.
I guess this is just word of mouth from ONE person from lotus Opinion? I dont buy that completely.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 9and3 View Post
My "bonded & painted installation" estimate does not include hard parts. I'd ballpark under $2k for the complete job. Not that much in savings, but the other benefits might make it worthwhile to some.
I agree under 2k.

But FG versions are right around that price. And you lose weight, and you dont have to worry about bonds cracking and showing seams.
__________________
-White Rossion Q1

07 white Exige S--Sold
04' Lexus Turbo IS300 BSM "track car"
--SOLD

"Straight lines dont mean sh**"
Bgwilly31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2008, 02:27 PM   #20 (permalink)
really light stuff
 
Thomasio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,503
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinhead View Post
How about duct tape???
Adhesive is good enough to bond your chassis together... is it not?
__________________
07 SY Exige S
Really Light Stuff Intercooler . RLS Tubes . RLS Water/Methanol Injection . RLS 3.0" Pulley . RLS Wing Plates . RLS CF Window Panel
Thomasio is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  LotusTalk - The Lotus Cars Community > Marketplace > Aftermarket Suppliers



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:17 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0