Vision Function: Free Stage II Upgrade - LotusTalk

Jermaine@VF · 10-27-2009, 08:16 AM

STAGE 2 FOR EVERYBODY!

Limited Time Promotion

Vision Function would like to Introduce our Elise/Exige Intercooled Supercharger Kit FREE UPGRADE SALE. After a great year of releases and new developments. We would like to offer a free Stage 2 upgrade to the first 10 people who purchase the Stage 1 full kit or a BWR or Katana Conversion Kit. The upgrade will get you an additional 20 whp of fun over our Stage 1 kit.

120 hp and 67 ft. lbs over a stock naturally aspirated Elise/Exige.

The Complete kit includes:
• MP62 Supercharger
• Bar and Plate Air-to-Air Intercooler
• Custom designed Intake Manifold
• CharlieX Reflashed ECU
• 550cc Injectors
• Walbro 255 LPH Pump

MP62

We use the venerable MP62 supercharger. Same unit as GM uses for it's factory Forced Induction Ecotec engines. This model supercharger provides us with exceptional performance in reasonable packaging. Our Stage 2 Kit uses a 30 inch pulley that allows us to make 9.8 psi in the intake manifold. This is more than enough boost pressure to give you an additional 120 horsepower on tap. In order to make the supercharger as efficient as possible we designed a cast supercharger inlet and outlet with SolidWorks and a fluid flow simulation program called CosmosFlowWorks. The outcome was staggering numbers which really show up on the dyno numbers and the road performance of the Supercharger kit.

Dyno Stock vs. Intercooled Elise Stage I Kit Dpack -ADDED

Dyno Stock vs. Intercooled Elise Stage II Kit Dpack

Intercooler

The dyno plot tells you all you need to know about performance:
What it doesn‘t tell you is how we do it and how we make this power while maintaining reliability. The secret: Cooler intake temperatures. Cooler intake temperatures mean a denser intake charge and a denser intake charge means a larger mass of air in the combustion chamber at any given boost level. More air means more horsepower (with the proper control of fuel and ignition timing, of course). Cooler intake temps have the added benefit of reducing the risk of engine damaging detonation.

Injectors

The injectors of choice are RC Engineering 550cc Injectors. At our 10 psi we are have complete control of AFR all the way up until our 8500 rpm rev limit. These injectors work well with our kit allowing you to have a very smooth idle quality and superb fuel control throughout the power band.

Charlie X Custom ECU Reflash

Upon conception of our Supercharger Kit, we sought the best Engine Management Solution and now we have a great working relationship with CharlieX. Together we have spent countless hours of dialing in the Fuel Map, Ignition Map, Variable Cam Timing Map, etc. After long days and some nights of tuning the car really seemed happiest at about 13.0 afr on the small cam, then at peak torque on the large cam 12.5 afr at peak torque and 11.9 afr at Peak Power. While running it slightly richer than usual we did lose some horsepower but what we gained was reliable as a richer AFR gives you better in cylinder cooling. Simply said less heat less stress! We use our in house Dynapack Dynometer, in the load based tuning mode. This is great R&D tool to dial the car in properly with its steady state rpm tuning and load ability. Some of the great names in the automotive industry use this dyno like Nascar, TRD, MINE'S those are just a few to start.

Jermaine@VisionFunction.com
VF Stage II Kits are now available!

Complete Kit:
120 hp & 67 ft. lbs over stock!
9.8 psi peak!
MP62 Supercharger
Custom Bar & Plate Intercooler
Solid Works Modelled Castings
Gotham (CharlieX) Custom ECU Mapping
RC Engineering Injectors
AVAILABLE FOR EXIGE/ELISE MY2005+

Price: $6300!
Price Installed $7950 at our Gaithersburg, MD Facility

BWR or Katana Conversion Kit:
Price: $3000! ($400 Savings)
Price Installed $4650 at our Gaithersburg, MD Facility

Addons
ACT Clutch Street Disk / HD Pressure Plate $399 or $1200 installed

Jermaine@visionfunction.com

Welcome to Vision Function!

antinym · 10-27-2009, 09:22 AM

I'm guessing you don't mean this retroactively? I'm still at stage 1 from January. Can you PM me a upgrade cost?

Jermaine@VF · 10-27-2009, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antinym

I'm guessing you don't mean this retroactively? I'm still at stage 1 from January. Can you PM me a upgrade cost?

Unfortunately, I can't do it retro. But check your pm's.

shay2nak · 10-27-2009, 10:26 AM

how much for the SC outlet and intake manifold? Do you have a comparison between the old stage 2 and new one?

Jermaine@VF · 10-27-2009, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shay2nak

how much for just the intake manifold?

Sorry we don't sell them separately.

lt0302 · 10-27-2009, 11:21 AM

what comes in the katana upgrade kit......i am interested

Jermaine@VF · 10-27-2009, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lt0302

what comes in the katana upgrade kit......i am interested

Everything to convert your Katana kit to a VF KIT.

Supercharger Nose Conversion
550cc Injectors
Walbro Fuel Pump
New Inlet & Outlet Casting
Intake Manifold
CharlieX Reflashed ECU
All Hardware need for the conversion

Randy Chase · 10-27-2009, 12:31 PM

Can't to see the power output when you change out the 30" pulley

Jermaine@VF · 10-27-2009, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Chase

Can't to see the power output when you change out the 30" pulley

Thanks... Chart uploaded for reference!

MCdougieFresh · 10-27-2009, 02:16 PM

Are there other upgrades to a stock touring lotus elise 2005 that need to be made outside of the complete install kit in order to handle the increased horsepower typically? i.e. would I have to change out anything in the suspension or down the line in the drive train necessarily? I've read about the fuel flow problems in high speed long left turns, but anything else? I'm going to supercharge eventually (just got my Lotus) but I'm trying to figure the overall expense of driving it supercharged...

Thanks for any help and I apologize if this is not the thread to post this in.

Jermaine@VF · 10-27-2009, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCdougieFresh

Are there other upgrades to a stock touring lotus elise 2005 that need to be made outside of the complete install kit in order to handle the increased horsepower typically? i.e. would I have to change out anything in the suspension or down the line in the drive train necessarily? I've read about the fuel flow problems in high speed long left turns, but anything else? I'm going to supercharge eventually (just got my Lotus) but I'm trying to figure the overall expense of driving it supercharged...

Thanks for any help and I apologize if this is not the thread to post this in.

Driving it Supercharged versus Racing it supercharged are two different things. I would say a clutch is a definitely necessity for the stock car and a maybe a mild brake upgrade nothing crazy. These cars already are pretty capable in stock form so a little bit goes a long way.

If you were building a track car the parts would be a bit more involved.

Green Hornet · 10-27-2009, 02:33 PM

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MCdougieFresh · 10-28-2009, 07:06 AM

Great, thanks Jermaine. I checked out your site and indeed, your install kit and tune are impressive and have me interested. I appreciate your response to my question. One further question if I may...
With regard to the clutch upgrade, I read the same on your website, and is there a good reason to upgrade the clutch ahead of time vs. just... now I know this sounds crude, but really, vs. just using the original until it is toast and THEN upgrading? If there is a good reason to upgrade first, then I will do that before getting supercharged, but otherwise, it almost seems like tires, right? I mean, I'll probably burn through tires faster too, but I would still wear out the pair I have before upgrading... I'm just thinking strategy and what order to purchase in. What do you or anyone else think? Again, I appreciate you allowing me to bilk your collective knowledge for all it's worth!

ACE51 · 10-28-2009, 08:31 AM

oh so tempting...

ZTEC · 10-28-2009, 08:33 AM

It is oh so worth it

jhnmdahl · 10-28-2009, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Chase

Can't to see the power output when you change out the 30" pulley

You can't swap out the 30" pulley, because then there's nothing filling the hole in the trunk lid you had to make to get it to fit in the first place...

ACE51 · 10-28-2009, 08:44 AM

anyone have finished product pictures they would like to share, I can't seem to find any.

fpitas · 10-28-2009, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACE51

anyone have finished product pictures they would like to share, I can't seem to find any.

Some of mine here, starting at post 19:

Latest Install VF2 + Goodies!

Jermaine@VF · 10-28-2009, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fpitas

Some of mine here, starting at post 19:

Latest Install VF2 + Goodies!

and

Vision Function Supercharger Intercooler Conversion Kit

Jermaine@VF · 10-29-2009, 10:16 AM

Up for the week

10-27-2009, 08:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
Jermaine@VF Crazy Car Guy Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 197	Vision Function: Free Stage II Upgrade STAGE 2 FOR EVERYBODY! Limited Time Promotion Vision Function would like to Introduce our Elise/Exige Intercooled Supercharger Kit FREE UPGRADE SALE. After a great year of releases and new developments. We would like to offer a free Stage 2 upgrade to the first 10 people who purchase the Stage 1 full kit or a BWR or Katana Conversion Kit. The upgrade will get you an additional 20 whp of fun over our Stage 1 kit. 120 hp and 67 ft. lbs over a stock naturally aspirated Elise/Exige. The Complete kit includes: • MP62 Supercharger • Bar and Plate Air-to-Air Intercooler • Custom designed Intake Manifold • CharlieX Reflashed ECU • 550cc Injectors • Walbro 255 LPH Pump MP62 We use the venerable MP62 supercharger. Same unit as GM uses for it's factory Forced Induction Ecotec engines. This model supercharger provides us with exceptional performance in reasonable packaging. Our Stage 2 Kit uses a 30 inch pulley that allows us to make 9.8 psi in the intake manifold. This is more than enough boost pressure to give you an additional 120 horsepower on tap. In order to make the supercharger as efficient as possible we designed a cast supercharger inlet and outlet with SolidWorks and a fluid flow simulation program called CosmosFlowWorks. The outcome was staggering numbers which really show up on the dyno numbers and the road performance of the Supercharger kit. Dyno Stock vs. Intercooled Elise Stage I Kit Dpack -ADDED Dyno Stock vs. Intercooled Elise Stage II Kit Dpack Intercooler The dyno plot tells you all you need to know about performance: What it doesn‘t tell you is how we do it and how we make this power while maintaining reliability. The secret: Cooler intake temperatures. Cooler intake temperatures mean a denser intake charge and a denser intake charge means a larger mass of air in the combustion chamber at any given boost level. More air means more horsepower (with the proper control of fuel and ignition timing, of course). Cooler intake temps have the added benefit of reducing the risk of engine damaging detonation. Injectors The injectors of choice are RC Engineering 550cc Injectors. At our 10 psi we are have complete control of AFR all the way up until our 8500 rpm rev limit. These injectors work well with our kit allowing you to have a very smooth idle quality and superb fuel control throughout the power band. Charlie X Custom ECU Reflash Upon conception of our Supercharger Kit, we sought the best Engine Management Solution and now we have a great working relationship with CharlieX. Together we have spent countless hours of dialing in the Fuel Map, Ignition Map, Variable Cam Timing Map, etc. After long days and some nights of tuning the car really seemed happiest at about 13.0 afr on the small cam, then at peak torque on the large cam 12.5 afr at peak torque and 11.9 afr at Peak Power. While running it slightly richer than usual we did lose some horsepower but what we gained was reliable as a richer AFR gives you better in cylinder cooling. Simply said less heat less stress! We use our in house Dynapack Dynometer, in the load based tuning mode. This is great R&D tool to dial the car in properly with its steady state rpm tuning and load ability. Some of the great names in the automotive industry use this dyno like Nascar, TRD, MINE'S those are just a few to start. Jermaine@VisionFunction.com VF Stage II Kits are now available! Complete Kit: 120 hp & 67 ft. lbs over stock! 9.8 psi peak! MP62 Supercharger Custom Bar & Plate Intercooler Solid Works Modelled Castings Gotham (CharlieX) Custom ECU Mapping RC Engineering Injectors AVAILABLE FOR EXIGE/ELISE MY2005+ Price: $6300! Price Installed $7950 at our Gaithersburg, MD Facility BWR or Katana Conversion Kit: Price: $3000! ($400 Savings) Price Installed $4650 at our Gaithersburg, MD Facility Addons ACT Clutch Street Disk / HD Pressure Plate $399 or $1200 installed Jermaine@visionfunction.com Welcome to Vision Function! __________________ www.VisionFunction.com - Site Under Construnction - Stay Tuned

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antinym The Doombringer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 656	I'm guessing you don't mean this retroactively? I'm still at stage 1 from January. Can you PM me a upgrade cost?

10-27-2009, 02:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
MCdougieFresh Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Detroit Posts: 6	Are there other upgrades to a stock touring lotus elise 2005 that need to be made outside of the complete install kit in order to handle the increased horsepower typically? i.e. would I have to change out anything in the suspension or down the line in the drive train necessarily? I've read about the fuel flow problems in high speed long left turns, but anything else? I'm going to supercharge eventually (just got my Lotus) but I'm trying to figure the overall expense of driving it supercharged... Thanks for any help and I apologize if this is not the thread to post this in.

10-28-2009, 07:06 AM	#13 (permalink)
MCdougieFresh Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Detroit Posts: 6	Great, thanks Jermaine. I checked out your site and indeed, your install kit and tune are impressive and have me interested. I appreciate your response to my question. One further question if I may... With regard to the clutch upgrade, I read the same on your website, and is there a good reason to upgrade the clutch ahead of time vs. just... now I know this sounds crude, but really, vs. just using the original until it is toast and THEN upgrading? If there is a good reason to upgrade first, then I will do that before getting supercharged, but otherwise, it almost seems like tires, right? I mean, I'll probably burn through tires faster too, but I would still wear out the pair I have before upgrading... I'm just thinking strategy and what order to purchase in. What do you or anyone else think? Again, I appreciate you allowing me to bilk your collective knowledge for all it's worth!

10-28-2009, 08:31 AM	#14 (permalink)
ACE51 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Summerfield, NC Posts: 604	oh so tempting... __________________ 06 Exige CO BWRized 05 Civic "Special Edition" 05 Elise CO, Trim shop interior and other things...SOLD

10-28-2009, 08:33 AM	#15 (permalink)
ZTEC Third Eye Open Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 1,737 Images: 3	It is oh so worth it __________________ GO: Vision Function Stage II Intercooled Bliss with Charlie's ECU magic and Ronin's Tenacity! STOP: DBA 4000's, Porterfield R4! TURN: Nitron S/A's Toyo RA1's 225/245 on Rota's!

10-28-2009, 08:44 AM	#17 (permalink)
ACE51 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Summerfield, NC Posts: 604	anyone have finished product pictures they would like to share, I can't seem to find any. __________________ 06 Exige CO BWRized 05 Civic "Special Edition" 05 Elise CO, Trim shop interior and other things...SOLD

10-29-2009, 10:16 AM	#20 (permalink)
Jermaine@VF Crazy Car Guy Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 197	Up for the week __________________ www.VisionFunction.com - Site Under Construnction - Stay Tuned

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