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The Wall Street Journal Reviews The Tesla
From: <a href=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124629044888368573.html#mod=loomia?loomia_si=t0: a16:g4:r3:c0:b0>Testing the Tesla Roadster</a>
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Great write-up... shame about the range though... they should have been more honest about that, not that many roadster owners will probably care but with the model S they are going to have to be more on the ball with the correct numbers.
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I recently got a ride in a Telsa. A friend of a friend just took delivery. The car has nice instant torque for a surprising pull. I don't like the 1 speed transmission. The minute you let off the gas, it slows... there is no coasting. The peak g's during acceleration doesn't feel that much stronger than the S240. Overall, it's not worth double what I paid for the Exige. I also think the Exige looks better. I can't stand the lack of exhaust noise in the car either... heh... though, I don't like the exhaust note of the exige that much.
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Nice to finally see a real review that isn't the often repeated Telsa hype.
Glad to see someone has been honest about the range since Tesla only quotes the best of all worlds performance numbers and bills this thing as a sports car, but never tells you what the range really is when driven like a sports car instead of p($$y footing around at 40 mph. I've said before I'd never be able to take the thing on a mountain drive, have fun, and then make it home...and it still looks that way. |
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Have the guys that put their $50K down 6 years all got their cars yet, back when they were promising 800 cars per year- a number they still havn't for the past 6 years combined? |
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The reviewer got a few things wrong
Charging: This chart shows that at 24 amps he should have been charging more than 6 times faster than what he stated. He (or Nick) did not know how to set up the charge screen.He talked about the different drive modes and that he never reached the EPAs range of 244 miles per charge. Since he never had it in "Range" mode that seems likely. The EPA tests are far from real world. Not many sports car drivers buzz around to EPA driving profiles. Same with top speeds and 0-to 60 times. Those published by all manufactures are under perfect conditions. And why not? Wouldn't you? Teslas are just getting on the track in groups this month. It's a 1.0 car so there is much to learn. Last edited by vfx : 08-07-2009 at 10:22 AM. |
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thats very true but i think the difference here is that noone has been able to reproduce the 240 mile range with exception of tesla employees. e.g. it has not been independantly verified and it represents a figure that is not realistically reproducable. Its not really a big problem: people will still buy the roadster even if the range was quoted as a more realistic 200 miles in range mode and 120-140 in sport mode. it just lends credibility to actually be at the claimed numbers. With the model S its going to be another story: fortunately by the time the S goes into production (figure 2011) the price of LiFePO4 batteries will be very low (under 200/KWh) which will allow a much higher energy density and better energy savings overall. They used Lithium cobalt for the roadster which has reliability and failure issues which is why each battery has to be in a steel case and the entire pack has to have control and cooling circuitry. This results in a very heavy pack and the batteries are purposely not fully charged to keep a safety margin but at the time LiCo was the only practical battery solution in terms of price. LiFePO4 cells do not have the safety or reliability issues so you can literally build them into packs with very little additional support or cooling systems, the end result of which will be a smaller lighter pack with the same energy density. perhaps the roadster will benefit from this technology as well in the next few months... |
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Tesla's 244mile per charge range number comes from the EPA, an independent organization that evaluates all US cars with a common drive cycle as a comparison for consumers in choosing an automobile. (your mileage will differ) The EPA drive cycle is not realistic in a fun to drive sports car.
Tesla Roadster production officially delayed! Range confirmed at 245 miles — Autoblog Green Quote:
Having said all that, I agree the EPA numbers hurt as much as help sell cars. The EPA says the Tesla Roadster gets the equivalent of (something like) 230 Miles Per Gallon. Even Tesla does not agree with how the EPA does their "math" and use a much more conservative 135 MPG equivalent number. |
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