HOUSE PLANS FOR A LOTUS? ANYONE? - LotusTalk

sentino · 01-16-2008, 08:40 AM

Hey guys. . .here is my deal. .
I am a registered architect in Florida. (I can apply for reciprocity in any state except California-damn earthquakes!). I do mostly custom high-end homes that range from 6K to 15K square feet.
I mostly do drawings for a fee, as usual. Sometimes I trade for services, or shares in a development project, especially with developers. We sit and decide monetary value of what we are trading, and enter the contract that way. Works out pretty cool.
I was thinking of applying that concept here!
I desire either: A 2006 Elise with Sport, Touring, and hardtop, up to an Exige-S. If there is ANYONE out there who needs plans for their dream home (or building someone else's), maybe we could work something out to benefit us.
Here is an example of how it could happen:

Permit plans for a 6,000 square foot custom home goes for around $36,000 ($6 a foot), structural fees are separate.
10,000 square feet would go for around $58,000. . .

Anyways, I would be willing to do up to 10,000 S.F. for any of the cars I mentioned. I think that is pretty fair up to a pre-owned Exige S. The value exchange is around there. . .
My services would include any revisions due to local building dept. comments.
Well, I've put out the message, and will look forward to any possible opportunities!

with thanks

Anthony

alil'britdifferent · 01-16-2008, 08:46 AM

Novel idea - good luck man.

RichS · 01-16-2008, 08:55 AM

Heh. I looked at this and thought that someone was custom designing their house for a Lotus. I was psyched as I'm about to start that process. My wife thinks we are going to build a new house with an attached garage, I think we are going to build a new garage with attached house.

That said, I'm not your target; I don't want a 10,000 square foot house and I want to keep my Lotus.

Good luck.

xtn · 01-16-2008, 08:59 AM

Wow I realize we're in different markets, but $6 per foot for architectural services sounds outrageous to me!

xtn

sentino · 01-16-2008, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by xtn

Wow I realize we're in different markets, but $6 per foot for architectural services sounds outrageous to me!

xtn

Actually, where I work, we charge $8-$10 a foot!

And people pay it. . . gladly. . . This pictured house had a $90K architectural fee! It's the reason we are still in business in this slow market. The high-end residential, and resort clientele is not affected. Anyways, I am releasing my request out there, and will be happy to receive any takers!

Shorty111R · 01-16-2008, 09:27 AM

Do you perhaps have some more pictures of work you've done? We are thinking about building a house soon, and I'd rather go with a one-off design, rather than a large duplicated plan from a home building company.

That being said, I don't have an Exige for sale, but I've got a few general design ideas bouncing around in my head.

Cheers and good luck!

sentino · 01-16-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Shorty111R

Do you perhaps have some more pictures of work you've done? We are thinking about building a house soon, and I'd rather go with a one-off design, rather than a large duplicated plan from a home building company.

That being said, I don't have an Exige for sale, but I've got a few general design ideas bouncing around in my head.

Cheers and good luck!

P.M. sent!

sentino · 01-17-2008, 01:57 PM

xtn · 01-17-2008, 02:25 PM

Result

NMRJock · 01-17-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sentino

A 6,000 square foot custom home goes for around $36,000 ($6 a foot) for all the architectural drawings and electrical plans. (structural fees are separate).
10,000 square feet would go for around $58,000. . .

Holy crap on a crap cracker! I'm not in your tax bracket, but man...

Mr. Know · 01-17-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NMRJock

Holy crap on a crap cracker! I'm not in your tax bracket, but man...

I know Elises are relatively cheap in the scheme of exotics, but some folks seem like they've never seen money...

In my area of California he'd be considered low end of the price scale.

To the OP, you might get better luck by offering your services for regular payment and using that money toward your car...however I like your approach.

sentino · 01-17-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NMRJock

Holy crap on a crap cracker! I'm not in your tax bracket, but man...

I'm just going by what we normally have received in the past . . .In south Florida. . . Actually our rates are the same for homes we have done out of state. . .

sentino · 01-17-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NMRJock

To the OP, you might get better luck by offering your services for regular payment and using that money toward your car...however I like your approach.

I am definitely open to the "regular" approach. But I figured there may be some people here who would rather pay with a Lotus vs. cash . . . Figured I give it a whirl! I really want to own this car!!!

NMRJock · 01-17-2008, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sentino

I'm just going by what we normally have received in the past . . .In south Florida. . . Actually or rates are the same for homes we have done our of state. . .

More power to you. Like Mr. Know says, I've never seen money.

Mr. Know · 01-17-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NMRJock

More power to you. Like Mr. Know says, I've never seen money.

Notice the

at the end of that statement.

SanAnEliseMan · 01-17-2008, 05:28 PM

Um you charge my salary for a drawing and I paid in cash. You should have no problem going to the nearest dealer and writing a check!

sentino · 01-17-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SanAnEliseMan

Um you charge my salary for a drawing. and I paid in cash. You should have no problem going to the nearest dealer and writing a check!

Actually. . .my check would probably bounce! And it's not just a "drawing". It's a set of construction documents necessary for a builder to build a house, plus you've got to satisfy local municipality codes, some ADA codes, inspection issues requiring revisions, etc. . .Then I have liability insurance, board membership, state licensure fees, continuing education units. . .I wish it was just a "drawing" my friend.
I only work with the firm that charges the higher rates for full construction documents, such as $90K for that 9,000 square foot house you see on this thread. . . .We charge around $9-10 a square foot.
Since I am licensed, I do a number of "moonlighting" jobs and charge a lower rate of $6-$7 a square foot using the same quality, and details I use at my full time office job. I haven't secured a commission like this for a while though. I've only dealt with additions, and re-models, due to the current economic glut. So no, I cannot just walk into a dealer, and write a check for a Lotus. BELIEVE me, I look forward to the day when I get to do that

. With a family, a mortgage, and a fixed salary, my focus is closer to home. . . .and I am grateful for that
. . .The Lotus will come to me when it's ready.

Mr. Know · 01-17-2008, 08:35 PM

10% of construction cost is industry standard, so no one should be surprised at your numbers. Frankly I'm surprised people are surprised...LOL.

You'll get one eventually!

sentino · 01-18-2008, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Know

10% of construction cost is industry standard, so no one should be surprised at your numbers. Frankly I'm surprised people are surprised...LOL.

You'll get one eventually!

Thanks for your support! 10% would actually yield higher architectural fees. So you are correct. Our rates are more reasonable than if we used the "percentage of construction" method. Our houses get built for about $250-$300 a square foot (nice finishes, appliances, impact resistant windows, etc.) If you did the math, you would see this.
I would actually consider an 06-07 Elise if it had the Sport, Touring, and hardtop options. . .

swede · 01-18-2008, 06:00 AM

10% is my experience to, normaly worth it IMO.

Good luck

01-16-2008, 08:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
sentino waiting for mine. . . Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boca Raton, Florida Posts: 237	HOUSE PLANS FOR A LOTUS? ANYONE? Hey guys. . .here is my deal. . I am a registered architect in Florida. (I can apply for reciprocity in any state except California-damn earthquakes!). I do mostly custom high-end homes that range from 6K to 15K square feet. I mostly do drawings for a fee, as usual. Sometimes I trade for services, or shares in a development project, especially with developers. We sit and decide monetary value of what we are trading, and enter the contract that way. Works out pretty cool. I was thinking of applying that concept here! I desire either: A 2006 Elise with Sport, Touring, and hardtop, up to an Exige-S. If there is ANYONE out there who needs plans for their dream home (or building someone else's), maybe we could work something out to benefit us. Here is an example of how it could happen: Permit plans for a 6,000 square foot custom home goes for around $36,000 ($6 a foot), structural fees are separate. 10,000 square feet would go for around $58,000. . . Anyways, I would be willing to do up to 10,000 S.F. for any of the cars I mentioned. I think that is pretty fair up to a pre-owned Exige S. The value exchange is around there. . . My services would include any revisions due to local building dept. comments. Well, I've put out the message, and will look forward to any possible opportunities! with thanks Anthony __________________ Working on getting : 06 Elise (sport/touring/hard top) or Exige or Exige S. . . Anthony Cosentino www.architect-cosentino.com Last edited by sentino : 07-17-2008 at 08:24 AM.

01-16-2008, 08:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
alil'britdifferent English Exile Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fort Mill, SC Posts: 793	Novel idea - good luck man. __________________ 2005 Elise: Starlight Black - Touring & Sport Pack Faster, Lighter, Safer: Lotus Sport ECU - RTD Brace - Braille Battery - K40 anti-Radar/Laser - 4Tress Bar - Schroth 5P Harness' - Fire Ext'r - SS brake lines Audio: Alpine - JBL Speakers - Arqray Double Tip Exhaust w/ Sport Cat - Desnorkel/Green Visual: Hard top - Challenger Rear Grill - Carbon Fiber; Diffuser, Front Splitter & Side Scoops - Stealth Bulbs - Folding Tow Hook, Bootie, Mircomirror & Buttons

01-16-2008, 08:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
RichS No, it's only an N/A Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,177	Heh. I looked at this and thought that someone was custom designing their house for a Lotus. I was psyched as I'm about to start that process. My wife thinks we are going to build a new house with an attached garage, I think we are going to build a new garage with attached house. That said, I'm not your target; I don't want a 10,000 square foot house and I want to keep my Lotus. Good luck. __________________ 2006 Phantom Black Exige - Touring, LSD, Track Pack, Starshield, Multivex Mirrors, Valentine One in MattG's bracket, Painted Shift Knob, Bootie, Increased range of remote, Tinted side windows, Black Lotus Nose Badge, 4Tress Harness Bar, Schroth PROFI II ASM Harness, Trickster's Black and Silver Wheel Cap Inserts, Panasonic FX01 on a ChaseCam camera mount, Powder Coated Gas Cap Cover, Soft Top mod with Touring Soft Top, Lotus Track Toe Link, Carbon Fiber AC Surround, Voltphreaks battery

01-16-2008, 08:59 AM	#4 (permalink)
xtn McLareghini Bugatterrari Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 5,805	Wow I realize we're in different markets, but $6 per foot for architectural services sounds outrageous to me! xtn __________________ 2006 McLareghini Bugatterrari, Storm Titanium... <mods> installed: air horn, Scroth 4-point ASM harnesses, Sector111 halon extinguisher and mounting bracket, Von Hep exhaust and rear panel delete, Pagid brake pads, red Volks CE28n wheels, Toyo RA-1 tires, Nitron SA coilovers, Sector111 (WorksBell) quick-disconnect steering wheel kit. awaiting installation: Scroth "pull-up" lap belts, Sector111 RTD Brace, Tony's heater bypass mod, and dropped steering rack mounting plates. </mods>

01-16-2008, 09:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
Shorty111R MY car weighs 3166lbs Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 417	Do you perhaps have some more pictures of work you've done? We are thinking about building a house soon, and I'd rather go with a one-off design, rather than a large duplicated plan from a home building company. That being said, I don't have an Exige for sale, but I've got a few general design ideas bouncing around in my head. Cheers and good luck! __________________ "Any car which holds together for more than a race is too heavy" - Colin Chapman

01-17-2008, 01:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
sentino waiting for mine. . . Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boca Raton, Florida Posts: 237	Test __________________ Working on getting : 06 Elise (sport/touring/hard top) or Exige or Exige S. . . Anthony Cosentino www.architect-cosentino.com

01-17-2008, 02:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
xtn McLareghini Bugatterrari Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 5,805	Result __________________ 2006 McLareghini Bugatterrari, Storm Titanium... <mods> installed: air horn, Scroth 4-point ASM harnesses, Sector111 halon extinguisher and mounting bracket, Von Hep exhaust and rear panel delete, Pagid brake pads, red Volks CE28n wheels, Toyo RA-1 tires, Nitron SA coilovers, Sector111 (WorksBell) quick-disconnect steering wheel kit. awaiting installation: Scroth "pull-up" lap belts, Sector111 RTD Brace, Tony's heater bypass mod, and dropped steering rack mounting plates. </mods>

01-17-2008, 05:28 PM	#16 (permalink)
SanAnEliseMan Sweetness Every Time Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Antonio Posts: 852	Um you charge my salary for a drawing and I paid in cash. You should have no problem going to the nearest dealer and writing a check! __________________ - 05 Ardent Red Elise - 01 Acura TL - 98 Cadillac Deville- Commuter/Drunk Tank

01-17-2008, 08:35 PM	#18 (permalink)
Mr. Know British by extrapolation Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Marin, California Posts: 2,083 Images: 5	10% of construction cost is industry standard, so no one should be surprised at your numbers. Frankly I'm surprised people are surprised...LOL. You'll get one eventually!

01-18-2008, 06:00 AM	#20 (permalink)
swede LEKSAK Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hudson Posts: 523	10% is my experience to, normaly worth it IMO. Good luck

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