2009 Toniq R - LotusTalk

Randy Chase · 01-07-2009, 12:56 PM

Heh... just wanted to say it looks like we are moving forward on importing a Toniq R to the US. Should be interesting. Since we first visited the car, there have been some significant developments in the chassis, suspension, and drivetrain. A lot of design input was given by an engineer who had worked on the Elise. The car is now capable of having installed just about any Mazda drivetrain. We are looking at some options, but I would like to get good torque and about 400hp in the engine. Car is a little over 1000 pounds, so it should be fun and do 0-60 in under 3 seconds.

I will post more when things develop.

Right now, we are looking at a pearl white body, possibly with carbon fiber inserts and bits.

If anyone else is interested in getting one, let me know by pm. Thanks.

We may head over to the UK for some more discussions and test drives through the countryside in a couple months.

Here is the first gen Toniq R, but in German.

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mopho · 01-07-2009, 12:58 PM

fitfan · 01-07-2009, 01:01 PM

whats the story on the rear suspension - it was a little vauge a year or so back? and pics of the bare chasis? with suspension?

Bane · 01-07-2009, 01:12 PM

Pics?

xxguitarist · 01-07-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bane

Pics?

more:Toniq r = to refresh, energise and invigorate

wallabyguy · 01-07-2009, 01:51 PM

The car sounds awesome.

Randy Chase · 01-07-2009, 02:08 PM

We had a great time driving around the Cornwall countryside. You know how it is over there, roads barely wide enough for two cars... walls of thickets and green on the sides, blasting around the corners. This was in the Honda Fireblade version with the sequential gearbox. Lots of fun.

Here is a video from the same roads-
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We are leaning towards a Garrett turbo 2.3l engine in the next car.

ms355 · 01-08-2009, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Chase

Here is the first gen Toniq R, but in German.

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What Tim Schrick says is the following: 'If the young man who came here from San Diego last year is going to show up again, he should invite potential German customers to join him'.

choi0706 · 01-10-2009, 04:57 PM

very cool indeed!

Randy Chase · 01-10-2009, 04:59 PM

Should be fun. In a way, I want to build it... but reality is I will buy it assembled since I don't have the time.

tvacc · 01-10-2009, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Chase

Should be fun. In a way, I want to build it... but reality is I will buy it assembled since I don't have the time.

You should build it. I had a great time building my Caterham.....only took me 3 weekends.

mopho · 01-10-2009, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Chase

Should be fun. In a way, I want to build it... but reality is I will buy it assembled since I don't have the time.

Make sure you get an MSO (manufacturers Statement of Origin), separate receipts for the kit, engine, transmission, and labor if you have any hopes of registering it here in CA

Randy Chase · 01-10-2009, 06:31 PM

I will Morgan. Thanks for your input Tony. Maybe I will.

Patricko · 01-12-2009, 09:50 AM

I guess the pound tanking has helped a lot too

Randy Chase · 01-12-2009, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patricko

I guess the pound tanking has helped a lot too

Exactly. It made less sense at 2:1.

Unfortunately for me, the movement of the pound has negatively impacted my company's sales in the UK.

fitfan · 01-12-2009, 10:59 AM

does anyone know what and how the chassis is, and what the front and rear suspensions are? any pics of that? toniq seems to NOT publish any photos of the mechanicals, only the body work?

Randy Chase · 01-12-2009, 11:16 AM

Here is peek at the solid model which shows a bit of the chassis and drivetrain.

cory1000 · 01-13-2009, 09:12 AM

Did I miss the price and option list for the US?

Randy Chase · 01-13-2009, 09:27 AM

It was not given. Price is TBD. But it looks reasonable.

Standard
Rolling Chassis Module

Includes:-

• Powder coated chassis
• Powder coated aluminium interior panels
• Front and rear wishbones with pushrods and rockers
• Front and rear uprights with hubs, bearings, brake disks and callipers
• Pedal box assembly, master cylinders, brake bias bar
• Steering column and linkage
• Front and rear dampers
• Steering rack
• Brake line/hose kit
• Hand brake kit
• Fuel lines, tank, pump and sender
• Main chassis wiring loom
• 15” Pro Race 2 Wheels with Yokohama 195/50/15 A048 tyres
• All fasteners and fixings

Body/Light/Interior Module

Includes:-

• Full fibreglass body set in natural finish – requires paint
• All light units – main, side, day light running, front rear indicator, side repeater, stop, tail, reverse and fog
• AIM digital dash
• All switches
• Steering wheel
• Tillet composite seats
• Harnesses
• Aero Locking Fuel Cap
• Front grill
• Roll over bar with rear bracing
• Hand brake gaitor
• Master kill switch
• Mirrors
• Master kill switch
• All fasteners and fixings

Engine/Drive Train Module – Duratec 2.0L 200bhp

Includes:-

• Engine assembly complete including loom
• Gearbox Mazda 5 speed
• Engine/gearbox mounts
• Propshaft
• Driveshafts
• Differential Mazda Limited Slip
• Exhaust system complete
• Radiator with fan
• Water pipes and hoses
• Header tank
• Battery
• All fasteners and fixings

Options

Panel chassis and run wiring loom, brake and fuel lines
Factory build car (SVA/IVA cost additional)
6 Speed gearbox upgrade (Duratec only)
Full Roll cage

Patricko · 01-13-2009, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Chase

Exactly. It made less sense at 2:1.

Unfortunately for me, the movement of the pound has negatively impacted my company's sales in the UK.

All electronics are dollar based so they are going to just have to suck it up and buy.

Let me know if you need me to talk to them for you

01-07-2009, 12:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,172 Images: 761	2009 Toniq R Heh... just wanted to say it looks like we are moving forward on importing a Toniq R to the US. Should be interesting. Since we first visited the car, there have been some significant developments in the chassis, suspension, and drivetrain. A lot of design input was given by an engineer who had worked on the Elise. The car is now capable of having installed just about any Mazda drivetrain. We are looking at some options, but I would like to get good torque and about 400hp in the engine. Car is a little over 1000 pounds, so it should be fun and do 0-60 in under 3 seconds. I will post more when things develop. Right now, we are looking at a pearl white body, possibly with carbon fiber inserts and bits. If anyone else is interested in getting one, let me know by pm. Thanks. We may head over to the UK for some more discussions and test drives through the countryside in a couple months. Here is the first gen Toniq R, but in German. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/YwaAPwvaCkE&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/YwaAPwvaCkE&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> __________________ [b]* V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S [/b] We have been feeling the buzz since 2002 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. [color=orange]Monaco Orange. [/color]Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). [color=orange]Chrome Orange. [/color] Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle. [color=blue]“Busy at times off the forum and scary* actually off the Internets. So I may not see your pm or emails for a while"[/color]

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fitfan Regurgitated User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego! Posts: 4,083	whats the story on the rear suspension - it was a little vauge a year or so back? and pics of the bare chasis? with suspension? __________________ Driving it around!

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01-07-2009, 01:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
wallabyguy Not Dead Yet Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 5,876	The car sounds awesome. __________________ former Lotus Sales Robert (aka Sith Lord of LBL) 74 Elite 502 05 Elise (Snuffalupagous..RIP : Laser Blue, Black Leather, Touring Pack, Hardtop ) The Wallaby Will Ride Again

01-07-2009, 02:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,172 Images: 761	We had a great time driving around the Cornwall countryside. You know how it is over there, roads barely wide enough for two cars... walls of thickets and green on the sides, blasting around the corners. This was in the Honda Fireblade version with the sequential gearbox. Lots of fun. Here is a video from the same roads- <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Fw7En9nJeLU&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Fw7En9nJeLU&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> We are leaning towards a Garrett turbo 2.3l engine in the next car. __________________ [b]* V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S [/b] We have been feeling the buzz since 2002 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. [color=orange]Monaco Orange. [/color]Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). [color=orange]Chrome Orange. [/color] Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle. [color=blue]“Busy at times off the forum and scary* actually off the Internets. So I may not see your pm or emails for a while"[/color]

01-10-2009, 04:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
choi0706 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houston/Austin Posts: 4,207	very cool indeed! __________________ Jay-05' ST, HT, Touring Red Rally Ready

01-10-2009, 04:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,172 Images: 761	Should be fun. In a way, I want to build it... but reality is I will buy it assembled since I don't have the time. __________________ [b]* V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S [/b] We have been feeling the buzz since 2002 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. [color=orange]Monaco Orange. [/color]Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). [color=orange]Chrome Orange. [/color] Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle. [color=blue]“Busy at times off the forum and scary* actually off the Internets. So I may not see your pm or emails for a while"[/color]

01-10-2009, 06:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,172 Images: 761	I will Morgan. Thanks for your input Tony. Maybe I will. __________________ [b]* V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S [/b] We have been feeling the buzz since 2002 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. [color=orange]Monaco Orange. [/color]Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). [color=orange]Chrome Orange. [/color] Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle. [color=blue]“Busy at times off the forum and scary* actually off the Internets. So I may not see your pm or emails for a while"[/color]

01-12-2009, 09:50 AM	#14 (permalink)
Patricko Elise Royalty Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 6,058	I guess the pound tanking has helped a lot too __________________ Providing an opportunity for others to live vicariously through me since 2004 ®

01-12-2009, 10:59 AM	#16 (permalink)
fitfan Regurgitated User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego! Posts: 4,083	does anyone know what and how the chassis is, and what the front and rear suspensions are? any pics of that? toniq seems to NOT publish any photos of the mechanicals, only the body work? __________________ Driving it around!

01-12-2009, 11:16 AM	#17 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,172 Images: 761	Here is peek at the solid model which shows a bit of the chassis and drivetrain. Attached Images __________________ [b]* V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S [/b] We have been feeling the buzz since 2002 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. [color=orange]Monaco Orange. [/color]Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). [color=orange]Chrome Orange. [/color] Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle. [color=blue]“Busy at times off the forum and scary* actually off the Internets. So I may not see your pm or emails for a while"[/color]

01-13-2009, 09:12 AM	#18 (permalink)
cory1000 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,917	Did I miss the price and option list for the US?

01-13-2009, 09:27 AM	#19 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,172 Images: 761	It was not given. Price is TBD. But it looks reasonable. Standard Rolling Chassis Module Includes:- • Powder coated chassis • Powder coated aluminium interior panels • Front and rear wishbones with pushrods and rockers • Front and rear uprights with hubs, bearings, brake disks and callipers • Pedal box assembly, master cylinders, brake bias bar • Steering column and linkage • Front and rear dampers • Steering rack • Brake line/hose kit • Hand brake kit • Fuel lines, tank, pump and sender • Main chassis wiring loom • 15” Pro Race 2 Wheels with Yokohama 195/50/15 A048 tyres • All fasteners and fixings Body/Light/Interior Module Includes:- • Full fibreglass body set in natural finish – requires paint • All light units – main, side, day light running, front rear indicator, side repeater, stop, tail, reverse and fog • AIM digital dash • All switches • Steering wheel • Tillet composite seats • Harnesses • Aero Locking Fuel Cap • Front grill • Roll over bar with rear bracing • Hand brake gaitor • Master kill switch • Mirrors • Master kill switch • All fasteners and fixings Engine/Drive Train Module – Duratec 2.0L 200bhp Includes:- • Engine assembly complete including loom • Gearbox Mazda 5 speed • Engine/gearbox mounts • Propshaft • Driveshafts • Differential Mazda Limited Slip • Exhaust system complete • Radiator with fan • Water pipes and hoses • Header tank • Battery • All fasteners and fixings Options Panel chassis and run wiring loom, brake and fuel lines Factory build car (SVA/IVA cost additional) 6 Speed gearbox upgrade (Duratec only) Full Roll cage __________________ [b]* V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S [/b] We have been feeling the buzz since 2002 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. [color=orange]Monaco Orange. [/color]Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). [color=orange]Chrome Orange. [/color] Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle. [color=blue]“Busy at times off the forum and scary* actually off the Internets. So I may not see your pm or emails for a while"[/color]

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