My car is sold :( But buying a Toniq R :) - LotusTalk

Randy Chase · 01-26-2008, 10:24 PM

A bit of a sad day with some mixed feelings.

We took the Elise to an autocross, for the first time since September. The car was flying and was unreal how well it handled and how fast it was. But the point of taking it to the autocross was to let the prospective owner test it out and it passed with flying colours.

So... the development car for SCCA ASP is now in someone else's capable hands. The new owner is Jason Uyeda, the head technical guy at Neversoft. Jason is a very good driver and proven he can build cars, the last being an Uber S2000. Jason intends on taking the car further than I have.

It is a bit sad for me, since this is the car I have had for 3 and 1/2 years. The car I drove from Georgia to San Diego in 2.5 days. The one that ran the Tail of the Dragon with Killyboy being quoted he had never seen a car that fast ever on Tail of the Dragon. The car that we did a TON of development work on, trying this intake or that header. One of the first imported federal cars. One of the first with LSD.

What is next? Well, there is the Eagle, but that will be a bit of a wait. In the meantime, I am having another car being built for me in Cornwall UK. This will be a 2.4l Duratec turbo engine Seven clone called a Toniq R. More info to follow on that. Seems it will be even more pure of purpose. No ABS, alarm, AC, heater, stereo, windshield, roof.

I might also be picking up a Porsche Boxster S for a daily driver. That is being negotiated.

I am happy my car will be in capable hands and I will not be reducing my involvement AT ALL in the Lotus community. I just will be showing up at events in my Toniq for the next year.

Randy Chase · 01-26-2008, 10:28 PM

This is the car I will be driving later this spring

550 kgs (just over 1200 pounds) and over 300 hp.

There is a Lotus connection to this car, one of the design guys was the instrumental in developing the Elise.

wildwhl · 01-26-2008, 10:30 PM

Traitor (j/k)

WW

Randy Chase · 01-26-2008, 10:31 PM

I will be back.

m3m750 · 01-26-2008, 10:35 PM

That does look like a lot of fun. I'll look forward to seeing it at an event sometime soon.

wildwhl · 01-26-2008, 10:36 PM

Where's the congratulations/condolences emoticon?

ahhhh......there it is......

akandok · 01-26-2008, 10:38 PM

Randy, Its sad to see you sell the Elise after so much you two have been through.. Hope we will see you in something equivalent again...

Your new ride looks awesome though.. Cant beat the power to weight ratio!

mopho · 01-26-2008, 10:52 PM

How come you picked the Toniq R over a Caterham?

John · 01-26-2008, 10:55 PM

Congrats on the new toy Randy - I look forward to seeing it when it arrives...

Randy Chase · 01-26-2008, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopho

How come you picked the Toniq R over a Caterham?

A couple reasons.

We believe in the concept of the car, basically a Seven clone for the 21st century. I think it looks more unique. And lastly (but an important point), the main importers and distributors of the Toniq is Robert P and I. Seems to make sense to have one.

We have a good relationship with the factory (Adrenalyn Motorsports, check out the Murtaya car) and they have worked with us quite closely over the last year. We visited the factory in Cornwall two weeks ago and had some good meetings. We were able to spec out the first US car to our requirements. The second car will be a motorcycle engine, sequential shifter.

mopho · 01-26-2008, 11:04 PM

Cool, Look forward to seeing it

akandok · 01-26-2008, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Chase

A couple reasons.

We believe in the concept of the car, basically a Seven clone for the 21st century. I think it looks more unique. And lastly (but an important point), the main importers and distributors of the Toniq is Robert P and I. Seems to make sense to have one.

We have a good relationship with the factory (Adrenalyn Motorsports, check out the Murtaya car) and they have worked with us quite closely over the last year. We visited the factory in Cornwall two weeks ago and had some good meetings. We were able to spec out the first US car to our requirements. The second car will be a motorcycle engine, sequential shifter.

If its not a secret.. How much is it? Looks interesting enough for me to consider buying..

wildwhl · 01-26-2008, 11:06 PM

Personally, I prefer a little Tangueray with my Toniq, but your's will work too.

Be well.

WW

Randy Chase · 01-26-2008, 11:10 PM

http://www.toniqr.co.uk/

Pricing is to be determined. But we expect the car to be available in the US as a roller for a good price, maybe $20K? And with a supplied drive train installed for the somewhere in the 30s???? Don't hold me to that!

WW, we tried to convince the developer to change his slogan from refresh your ride, to "its a bit clever."

akandok · 01-26-2008, 11:14 PM

I would pick one up at 20k. Any ideas on how smog would go down in Cali? Kind of off topic, but then again you are getting one

I visited loanshark not too long ago.. I should of stopped by your place

ducatiexigeowner · 01-26-2008, 11:26 PM

.....I guess it looks like a 2-11....

Very interesting Randy.....ahhh Cornwall.....you dark horse....
motorcycle motor....hmmm
not a bad price either....

25psi_Elise_Killer · 01-26-2008, 11:39 PM

Hmm.... Is the Duratech engine from Cosworth?

http://www.cosworth.com/shop_range.php?typeid=6

The Stig · 01-27-2008, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Chase

I will be back.

Me too.

AgentTripleX · 01-27-2008, 12:35 AM

It sounds like a tough decision to make, but it is important to know when it's the right time to let go and move. Just like in any other relationship. It's sounds like you're on to other wonderful things already. I don't know what to say about the Boxster so I'll be quiet for the time being.

Enjoy everything life has to offer you Randy!

ducatiexigeowner · 01-27-2008, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Stig

Me too.

but i bet you wouldn't buy a boxter whilst ellie is sick....

.....

01-26-2008, 10:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
Randy Chase Forum Founder Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 23,260 Images: 761	My car is sold :( But buying a Toniq R :) A bit of a sad day with some mixed feelings. We took the Elise to an autocross, for the first time since September. The car was flying and was unreal how well it handled and how fast it was. But the point of taking it to the autocross was to let the prospective owner test it out and it passed with flying colours. So... the development car for SCCA ASP is now in someone else's capable hands. The new owner is Jason Uyeda, the head technical guy at Neversoft. Jason is a very good driver and proven he can build cars, the last being an Uber S2000. Jason intends on taking the car further than I have. It is a bit sad for me, since this is the car I have had for 3 and 1/2 years. The car I drove from Georgia to San Diego in 2.5 days. The one that ran the Tail of the Dragon with Killyboy being quoted he had never seen a car that fast ever on Tail of the Dragon. The car that we did a TON of development work on, trying this intake or that header. One of the first imported federal cars. One of the first with LSD. What is next? Well, there is the Eagle, but that will be a bit of a wait. In the meantime, I am having another car being built for me in Cornwall UK. This will be a 2.4l Duratec turbo engine Seven clone called a Toniq R. More info to follow on that. Seems it will be even more pure of purpose. No ABS, alarm, AC, heater, stereo, windshield, roof. I might also be picking up a Porsche Boxster S for a daily driver. That is being negotiated. I am happy my car will be in capable hands and I will not be reducing my involvement AT ALL in the Lotus community. I just will be showing up at events in my Toniq for the next year. __________________ *** V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S *** We have been feeling the buzz since 2002 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. 0-60mph in 2.9 seconds.

01-26-2008, 10:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
Randy Chase Forum Founder Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 23,260 Images: 761	This is the car I will be driving later this spring 550 kgs (just over 1200 pounds) and over 300 hp. There is a Lotus connection to this car, one of the design guys was the instrumental in developing the Elise. __________________ *** V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S *** We have been feeling the buzz since 2002 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. 0-60mph in 2.9 seconds.

01-26-2008, 10:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
wildwhl You bought a Locust? Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 775	Traitor (j/k) WW __________________ ...................... Still recovering from the car addiction.

01-26-2008, 10:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
Randy Chase Forum Founder Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 23,260 Images: 761	I will be back. __________________ *** V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S *** We have been feeling the buzz since 2002 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. 0-60mph in 2.9 seconds.

01-26-2008, 10:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
m3m750 Born to drive Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 905	That does look like a lot of fun. I'll look forward to seeing it at an event sometime soon. __________________ Ways to get to the office: 2005 Elise, AS, Stage II, Fujita intake, better speakers 2005 Acura MDX 2008 MB CLS550 2001 Ducati Monster 750 1986 Porsche 911 Cabriolet

01-26-2008, 10:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
wildwhl You bought a Locust? Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 775	Where's the congratulations/condolences emoticon? ahhhh......there it is...... __________________ ...................... Still recovering from the car addiction.

01-26-2008, 10:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
akandok 2006 Lotus Elise Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,548	Randy, Its sad to see you sell the Elise after so much you two have been through.. Hope we will see you in something equivalent again... Your new ride looks awesome though.. Cant beat the power to weight ratio! __________________ “The biggest cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid people are so sure about things and the intelligent folks are so full of doubts.” Bertrand Russell John 3:16

01-26-2008, 10:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
mopho goofn' with the bees Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: out of a suitcase- my stuff lives in LA Posts: 4,113	How come you picked the Toniq R over a Caterham? __________________ ________________ 2004 Caterham 7 Superlight R - 67 Lotus Elan www.morgansegal.com www.socalsportscar.com

01-26-2008, 10:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
John :panic: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,614	Congrats on the new toy Randy - I look forward to seeing it when it arrives... __________________ 05 "Elixige" w/ Stuff 06 Titan SE 4x4 - tow vehicle 07 Mazda 3S - 4-wheeled commuter 99 YZF-600R - 2-wheeled commuter

01-26-2008, 11:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
mopho goofn' with the bees Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: out of a suitcase- my stuff lives in LA Posts: 4,113	Cool, Look forward to seeing it __________________ ________________ 2004 Caterham 7 Superlight R - 67 Lotus Elan www.morgansegal.com www.socalsportscar.com

01-26-2008, 11:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
wildwhl You bought a Locust? Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 775	Personally, I prefer a little Tangueray with my Toniq, but your's will work too. Be well. WW __________________ ...................... Still recovering from the car addiction.

01-26-2008, 11:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
Randy Chase Forum Founder Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 23,260 Images: 761	http://www.toniqr.co.uk/ Pricing is to be determined. But we expect the car to be available in the US as a roller for a good price, maybe $20K? And with a supplied drive train installed for the somewhere in the 30s???? Don't hold me to that! WW, we tried to convince the developer to change his slogan from refresh your ride, to "its a bit clever." __________________ *** V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S *** We have been feeling the buzz since 2002 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. 0-60mph in 2.9 seconds.

01-26-2008, 11:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
akandok 2006 Lotus Elise Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,548	I would pick one up at 20k. Any ideas on how smog would go down in Cali? Kind of off topic, but then again you are getting one I visited loanshark not too long ago.. I should of stopped by your place __________________ “The biggest cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid people are so sure about things and the intelligent folks are so full of doubts.” Bertrand Russell John 3:16

01-26-2008, 11:26 PM	#16 (permalink)
ducatiexigeowner Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: 49o30.21'N...2o30.37'W Posts: 1,416	.....I guess it looks like a 2-11.... Very interesting Randy.....ahhh Cornwall.....you dark horse.... motorcycle motor....hmmm not a bad price either.... __________________ i'll give you the information if you stop hitting me...

01-26-2008, 11:39 PM	#17 (permalink)
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01-27-2008, 12:35 AM	#19 (permalink)
AgentTripleX The Spy Who Loved Me Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,292	It sounds like a tough decision to make, but it is important to know when it's the right time to let go and move. Just like in any other relationship. It's sounds like you're on to other wonderful things already. I don't know what to say about the Boxster so I'll be quiet for the time being. Enjoy everything life has to offer you Randy! __________________ "Love is short, forgetting is so long" - Pablo Neruda www.myspace.com/supervixen www.slidesf.com www.lotusvodka.com www.talklambo.com