New house needs garage help. - LotusTalk

WildCJ5 · 10-28-2007, 06:53 PM

Well we are getting a new house but it being a track home is causing some grief. It is only a two car garage so I was planning a lift for the Elise but as you can see there is a large beam running down the middle so I do not have the clearance for stacking. Height to beam is 7'11". The depth is 19'3" by 19'6" so getting wheel dollies and putting the Elise sideways wont work either.

After all the garage measuring and head scratching I went to measure the cut out for the TV. Good news is the 60" Sony will fit but the TV stand is ONE inch to big.

Just not my day oh well, suck it up cupcake!

Enough of the rant, now for the help. I want to do a tile floor but don't know what kind of tile to use. Any of you ever done it, would you do it again? The Race Deck seems ok but real tile just looks so nice.

Take a look at company name on the side of the porta-potty.

Thanks in advance,
Rob

jallingt · 10-28-2007, 07:03 PM

For your Christmas and birthday presents for the net five years, ask for your garage to be turned into a tandem. Blow out the back! Is your lot big enough and what about covenants?
Congrats and good Luck on your new home.

RacyTracy · 10-28-2007, 07:05 PM

What if you lift the Elise with the top off and the windows down and straddle the beam between the windshield and the roll bar? So instead of measuring the height of the Elise to the top, measure to the window sill.

WildCJ5 · 10-28-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RacyTracy

What if you lift the Elise with the top off and the windows down and straddle the beam between the windshield and the roll bar? So instead of measuring the height of the Elise to the top, measure to the window sill.

Thanks for the idea, I had not thought of that. Unfortunately it wont clear, the hood height is 30" plus 58" for the Volvo or WRX plus another 8" for the lift for a total of 96" or 8 feet. That damn beam is 7'11" from the floor.

Lambda_drive · 10-28-2007, 08:00 PM

I may not know anything about renovation, but how hard is it to lower the floor by an inch or two?

smoseley · 10-28-2007, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lambda_drive

I may not know anything about renovation, but how hard is it to lower the floor by an inch or two?

Looks like new construction, not renovation. Lowering the floor would not be cost effective. Definitely more so than re-engineering the beam, though.

smoseley · 10-28-2007, 08:40 PM

Anyhow, the answer to your question is simple... PRIORITIZE!!!!

Get rid of the frivolous unnecessary things that come with your house... a courtyard? Pfft.. X it.. Porte Cochere?? WTF? X it! Windows? X 'em! What's left? Room for 4 cars with no major modifications to the house!

DO it!!!

codymac · 10-28-2007, 08:44 PM

Uhh... buy a different house?

Speaking from experience here, unfortunately.

usofrob · 10-28-2007, 09:06 PM

The car is pretty short length-wise. Could you just shift it one way or the other, with the front of the car near the beam?

What if instead of parking a volvo or WRX under the lift, you park another Elise? I mean, having one Elise is good, so having two should be even better. Seems like a decent swap for the WRX.

Does the lift lift by the wheels or the body? If it is the body, that might also give you a little more space.

If it does lift by the wheels, take them off, and lift it on dummy wheels (without tires). That'll save a few inches.

Or, if you have an adjustable suspension, lower the car before storing it.

I'm sure I can come up with a few more.

Nathan · 10-28-2007, 09:27 PM

park the WRX on the front lawn?

WildCJ5 · 10-28-2007, 09:56 PM

I think I will just take a sawzall to the WRX and the problem will be solved. The design cannot be changed, it is a new construction track home. The rest of the house fits all the other needs, location, office for the wife, rooms for the kids and a price point that lets me keep the current house.

So any of you done any tile work?

RacyTracy · 10-28-2007, 11:04 PM

One lousy inch??? Jeeeeeeeeez...... Maybe a different brand of lift? Lower profile tires for the Volvo? Remember, that beam is boxed with drywall, you might gain an inch just by removing it (the drywall).

There's GOTTA be a way.......

charliex · 10-28-2007, 11:06 PM

dude,your house looks that and you're worried about the garage?

man car peoples priorities all over, at least get some windows bro.

RacyTracy · 10-29-2007, 01:38 AM

Drill a small hole straight up under the beam and see how much more room there is until you actually hit it. If they boxed it with 2x4's there might be 1-1.5 more inches to be gained. The drywall itself is probably 1/2 inch.

element256 · 10-29-2007, 01:48 AM

I'm VERY sure you can shave that beam down some. That's not all wood, it's alot of covering as well. That would net close to an inch. If not there's minor things you could do in addition to meet the height requirements. Like different lift, smaller tires on bottom car etc..
It can be done and fairly simple too, since you only have to cut the part where the car would touch.
That house about 460k ? Looks like one of those in Corona by the airfield.

smoseley · 10-29-2007, 08:26 AM

It's very possible that there's no drywall over the beam in the garage... structure is often left exposed and just painted in garages since there's no climate control (gypsum could degrade in high humidity).

WildCJ5 · 10-29-2007, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by charliex

dude,your house looks that and you're worried about the garage?

man car peoples priorities all over, at least get some windows bro.

CHARLIEX

I'm not really sure what you are saying?

RacyTracy,
You might be right, the finish does look like the rest.

element256,
The house is in Canyon Hills/Canyon Lake area of Lake Elsinore.

I think it is time for a set of coilovers on the WRX.

smoseley · 10-29-2007, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by WildCJ5

So any of you done any tile work?

I've done tile work. Here are your options (rough guesses on elevation increase):

Linoleum - about 1/8" increase in elevation
Porcelain or ceramic on thinset - about 3/8" increase
12" stone (marble, etc) tiles on mud - about 3/4" to 1" increase
18"+ stone on mud - about 1" to 1-1/2" increase

You have other options, though, which are really hot for a garage:

Stained concrete - 0" increase in elevation (you can stain patterns, too)
Terrazzo - about 1/2" but really worth it (way better than tile for a garage imo)
Rubber "garage" tiles - not sure... 1/4"?

milehitom · 10-29-2007, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by WildCJ5

Thanks for the idea, I had not thought of that. Unfortunately it wont clear, the hood height is 30" plus 58" for the Volvo or WRX plus another 8" for the lift for a total of 96" or 8 feet. That damn beam is 7'11" from the floor.

Let the air out of the tires.

Tom

fzust · 10-29-2007, 10:01 AM

www.directlift.com

Legs are 6'11" tall.

worst-case

assembled 2 legs on one side of the beam and 2 on the other. Jeesh.....

10-28-2007, 06:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
WildCJ5 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: 951 the new 909 Posts: 183	New house needs garage help. Well we are getting a new house but it being a track home is causing some grief. It is only a two car garage so I was planning a lift for the Elise but as you can see there is a large beam running down the middle so I do not have the clearance for stacking. Height to beam is 7'11". The depth is 19'3" by 19'6" so getting wheel dollies and putting the Elise sideways wont work either. After all the garage measuring and head scratching I went to measure the cut out for the TV. Good news is the 60" Sony will fit but the TV stand is ONE inch to big. Just not my day oh well, suck it up cupcake! Enough of the rant, now for the help. I want to do a tile floor but don't know what kind of tile to use. Any of you ever done it, would you do it again? The Race Deck seems ok but real tile just looks so nice. Take a look at company name on the side of the porta-potty. Thanks in advance, Rob Last edited by WildCJ5 : 10-28-2007 at 07:03 PM.

10-28-2007, 07:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
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10-28-2007, 08:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lambda_drive F0RUM OWL Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 2,112 Images: 46	I may not know anything about renovation, but how hard is it to lower the floor by an inch or two? __________________ avatar: Great Horned Owl

10-28-2007, 08:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
smoseley Bubble Boy Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 12,132 Images: 8	Anyhow, the answer to your question is simple... PRIORITIZE!!!! Get rid of the frivolous unnecessary things that come with your house... a courtyard? Pfft.. X it.. Porte Cochere?? WTF? X it! Windows? X 'em! What's left? Room for 4 cars with no major modifications to the house! DO it!!! Attached Images __________________ - Steve Transio - Software Development & Web Design, Miami, FL

10-28-2007, 08:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
codymac short angry bloke Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: where the east tapers out and the west begins Posts: 9,260 Images: 19	Uhh... buy a different house? Speaking from experience here, unfortunately. __________________ torque (tôrk) n. - an excuse for the lack of momentum. - let's bring back CanAm & Group B! - have you hugged your Exige today? I'm currently working on my performance driving merit badge. There's always somebody faster, sometimes it's me.

10-28-2007, 07:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
RacyTracy V Not my picture V Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Palatine, IL Posts: 9,187	What if you lift the Elise with the top off and the windows down and straddle the beam between the windshield and the roll bar? So instead of measuring the height of the Elise to the top, measure to the window sill.

10-28-2007, 09:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
usofrob Almost out of warranty :) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 687	The car is pretty short length-wise. Could you just shift it one way or the other, with the front of the car near the beam? What if instead of parking a volvo or WRX under the lift, you park another Elise? I mean, having one Elise is good, so having two should be even better. Seems like a decent swap for the WRX. Does the lift lift by the wheels or the body? If it is the body, that might also give you a little more space. If it does lift by the wheels, take them off, and lift it on dummy wheels (without tires). That'll save a few inches. Or, if you have an adjustable suspension, lower the car before storing it. I'm sure I can come up with a few more.

10-28-2007, 09:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
Nathan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 174	park the WRX on the front lawn?

10-28-2007, 09:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
WildCJ5 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: 951 the new 909 Posts: 183	I think I will just take a sawzall to the WRX and the problem will be solved. The design cannot be changed, it is a new construction track home. The rest of the house fits all the other needs, location, office for the wife, rooms for the kids and a price point that lets me keep the current house. So any of you done any tile work?

10-28-2007, 11:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
RacyTracy V Not my picture V Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Palatine, IL Posts: 9,187	One lousy inch??? Jeeeeeeeeez...... Maybe a different brand of lift? Lower profile tires for the Volvo? Remember, that beam is boxed with drywall, you might gain an inch just by removing it (the drywall). There's GOTTA be a way.......

10-28-2007, 11:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
charliex OSX Black hat Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas , NV Posts: 9,935	dude,your house looks that and you're worried about the garage? man car peoples priorities all over, at least get some windows bro. __________________ Black Exige S - http://goth.am 265 Mule / Elan M100.ECU Tuning, http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39660 West Coast Lotus Meet - Las Vegas - November 6-9 2009 http://www.westcoastlotus.com/

10-29-2007, 01:38 AM	#14 (permalink)
RacyTracy V Not my picture V Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Palatine, IL Posts: 9,187	Drill a small hole straight up under the beam and see how much more room there is until you actually hit it. If they boxed it with 2x4's there might be 1-1.5 more inches to be gained. The drywall itself is probably 1/2 inch.

10-29-2007, 01:48 AM	#15 (permalink)
element256 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 18	I'm VERY sure you can shave that beam down some. That's not all wood, it's alot of covering as well. That would net close to an inch. If not there's minor things you could do in addition to meet the height requirements. Like different lift, smaller tires on bottom car etc.. It can be done and fairly simple too, since you only have to cut the part where the car would touch. That house about 460k ? Looks like one of those in Corona by the airfield.

10-29-2007, 08:26 AM	#16 (permalink)
smoseley Bubble Boy Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 12,132 Images: 8	It's very possible that there's no drywall over the beam in the garage... structure is often left exposed and just painted in garages since there's no climate control (gypsum could degrade in high humidity). __________________ - Steve Transio - Software Development & Web Design, Miami, FL

10-29-2007, 10:01 AM	#20 (permalink)
fzust 2009 XP National Champion Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 1,537	www.directlift.com Legs are 6'11" tall. worst-case assembled 2 legs on one side of the beam and 2 on the other. Jeesh..... __________________ 2008,2009 X Prepared Solo National Champion

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