Max and Bernie Not Backing Down

[mikester]

It seems as though they're pretty sure Ferrari is bluffing:

Mosley: We can't let Ferrari dictate F1 rules | Page 1 | Formula One News | 2009 | Crash.Net


I don't think Ferrari or the others are bluffing. Looks like there might actually be a breakup, or at least an exodus of most of the big teams.

[Green Hornet]

The whole thing is so sad. It’s obvious they want the big teams (especially Ferrari) out. That keeps Bernie and Max all powerful.

The budget is far too low (IMO). The cost of a team fixing their diffusers this year is almost as much as the budget for an entire season in 2010.

If this comes to pass, Formula One will be just another racing series. Certainly not the pinnacle of motorsport.

Tony George’s is a fine example to follow - how to ruin a good thing for the entire world except, possibly, for one’s self.

Too sad for words -

[Shine]

Originally Posted by mikester

We can't let Ferrari dictate F1 rules

of course not, because then Max couldn't do it!

[mikester]

^ Shine, the way you quoted that was confusing, it looks as if I said that, which I did not. That quote was from Max Moseley.

[road racer]

Originally Posted by Shine

of course not, because then Max couldn't do it!

to be fair though, Ferrari is "just" one of the teams, and Max "is" the sanctioning body. a single team in fact should not be able to dictate the rules.

Max and Bernie Not Backing Down

in fact, Max has already agreed that the 2 tiers will go away, there will just be 1 tier. FOTA has already (in the past) agreed in principle to a budget cap, so we are left with deciding the amount.

this is all probably small potatoes compared to negotiating the concorde agreement (which amounts to, what is the team vs FOM split of revenue).

[paulhastings]

Waiting for the announcement of the breakway signed by Ferrari, Renault, Toyota, Red Bull and McLaren.

[fitfan]

isnt ferrari taking fota to court ?

does ferrari have a legit cliam? i mean... an agreement that fota would break if max and bernie got their way?

[Shine]

Originally Posted by mikester

^ Shine, the way you quoted that was confusing, it looks as if I said that, which I did not. That quote was from Max Moseley.

Yeah, sorry for not making my post clearer.

[Vexige]

If it'll continue like that soon Max and Bernie will be racing each other...

[BRTHTAKR]

Originally Posted by Vexige

If it'll continue like that soon Max and Bernie will be racing each other...

[robains]

This is exactly why I can't stand Ferrari, the douche bag running the show. Ferrari were a much better "team" when this clown wasn't around.

The Official Formula 1 Website

Who the F do Ferrari think they are? Fine, they can disagree with the rules and they can announce plans to exit the series. But to go to court and tell the FIA they can’t change the rules for 2010 – that’s beyond arrogance. Glad they told Ferrari to stuff it where the sun don't shine.

Nobody is exiting anything. As others have stated, this is the mud sling negotiations. If Ferrari were really planning on leaving why bother trying to go to court over this?? The only answer is they really don't plan to leave, and neither do any of the other teams.

I'm gonna guess ultimately there will be a single rule and it will involve a budget cap -- all this feather fluffing is to just try to increase that cap. To pull a number out -- 150m Euros is my guess.

Rob.