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kestrel74 · 05-09-2009, 06:17 AM

Who's got the Button ?

macdady2424 · 05-09-2009, 07:04 AM

Kimi got caught sleepin again.

Mclaren, still don't know what to say. Maybe they need to hire some new Engineers. Seems like lack of testing is hurting them.

kaz · 05-10-2009, 03:59 AM

It's almost race time! who's up? or still up in my case...

ms355 · 05-10-2009, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kaz

It's almost race time! who's up? or still up in my case...

Well, it's almost 2 pm ...

Phill B · 05-10-2009, 05:13 AM

It's 10.12pm here and the pace car is still winning.

kestrel74 · 05-10-2009, 05:15 AM

Ugh !

kestrel74 · 05-10-2009, 05:25 AM

At&t needs new commercials.

kestrel74 · 05-10-2009, 07:12 AM

A-mazing.

Z-dculus · 05-10-2009, 07:26 AM

Ferrari = Honda

plastique999 · 05-10-2009, 11:07 AM

Oh man...what a crash....poor Red Bull....
I don't think Sutil drove wisely there...

bueno · 05-10-2009, 11:37 AM

How many more stupid mistakes will Ferrari do before they understand? From qualifying which hurt Kimi to miscalculating the fuel for Masa

They must be in a state of dazed and confused for the '09 season. I know we still have 12 more races to go but do they even have a shot anymore? Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for Brawn, Red Bull and Toyota to finally be competitive but it would be great if Ferrari, McLaren and BMW joined in also.

plastique999 · 05-11-2009, 09:57 AM

Did Brawn screw Barrichello to let Button win yet another race?

kestrel74 · 05-11-2009, 10:01 AM

Barrichello didn't seem too happy in the post interviews.

milehitom · 05-11-2009, 10:06 AM

Rubens did try to make it sound like he had some tire or mechanical problems that caused the lead change...but his heart really didn't seem to be in the explanation. He's probably thinking "Here we go again."

Tom

bueno · 05-11-2009, 10:09 AM

Yeah, that was crap from Brawn. Did you hear on the radio when they told RB that they would have to go to plan B? Makes you wonder.

kestrel74 · 05-11-2009, 10:15 AM

Ahhh Politics.

EliseAtLeast · 05-11-2009, 10:48 AM

Poor Ruben. Story of his life. But then again, if he were the one to have three race wins under his belt, I'm sure the role would be reversed. He only have himself to blame. I do think Button is a better driver that him. At least more consistent if not faster.

mikester · 05-11-2009, 11:33 AM

Team orders. It makes sense from a team perspective, but it's got to be really tough for the driver (seems like it's always Barrichelo, doesn't it ?) But you know what, he's paid well and at the end of the day he has little to complain about, compared to most anybody else in the world. And I'm sure he knows it.

cstetter · 05-11-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mikester

Team orders. It makes sense from a team perspective, but it's got to be really tough for the driver (seems like it's always Barrichelo, doesn't it ?) But you know what, he's paid well and at the end of the day he has little to complain about, compared to most anybody else in the world. And I'm sure he knows it.

If that had been Ferrari with team orders, there would be protests left and right, especially from the armchair quarterbacks and Ferrari haters here on the board

I agree with the post above about the idiotic mistakes that Ferrari is making. What the hell? It's one thing to have a slower car but this crap is just NOT NECESSARY

mikester · 05-11-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cstetter

If that had been Ferrari with team orders, there would be protests left and right, especially from the armchair quarterbacks and Ferrari haters here on the board

I agree with the post above about the idiotic mistakes that Ferrari is making. What the hell? It's one thing to have a slower car but this crap is just NOT NECESSARY

Yes, I agree with you about that (both comments). Regarding the first one, face it though, they were an easy target and in many cases the criticism was/is justified. And re: team orders, I wasn't really trying to defend them so much as to say it's understandable that they exist, and they most likely always will.

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Phill B Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 280	It's 10.12pm here and the pace car is still winning.

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bueno Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 281	How many more stupid mistakes will Ferrari do before they understand? From qualifying which hurt Kimi to miscalculating the fuel for Masa They must be in a state of dazed and confused for the '09 season. I know we still have 12 more races to go but do they even have a shot anymore? Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for Brawn, Red Bull and Toyota to finally be competitive but it would be great if Ferrari, McLaren and BMW joined in also.

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plastique999 Form and Function Join Date: May 2008 Location: Alta Loma, CA Posts: 3,046	Did Brawn screw Barrichello to let Button win yet another race? __________________ www.FaceNBody.com 2005 Lotus Elise: 2bular decat\GT3 exhaust,HID's,turn signal&rear fins delete, CFside scoops, CFbinnacle,CFcenter console,Zoom CF mirror,APR Aero kit,CF 5-elem. diffuser,Exige mesh,Ohlins DA,RTD brace,RAC 'lites,Toyo R888's,HawkHT10's,CO painted calipers,SS lines,Reverie XC CF seat,Reverie CF steering wheel,Schroth Profi II 6 pt harness,shifter re-Enforcer,Manly mounts, Accusump,Moroso pan,BWR key to BWR S/C! Spec Racer Ford #237

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kestrel74 G-200 Driver Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: North of Detroit; Watkins Glen, NY Posts: 9,312	Barrichello didn't seem too happy in the post interviews. __________________ 74 Europa Zetec TC Special 3614R Elise #2292 / Chrome Orange !! / Starshield / Nitron Sport SA / RTDbrace / Uprights machined / Down Low rails / ChaseCam / V1 / SS lines w/ R4-S "My daily driver does .85 Mach" " I started flying when Sex was safe and Hang Gliding was dangerous " BUY My Europa ! http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f94/...pa-sale-43829/

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milehitom Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,143	Rubens did try to make it sound like he had some tire or mechanical problems that caused the lead change...but his heart really didn't seem to be in the explanation. He's probably thinking "Here we go again." Tom

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bueno Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 281	Yeah, that was crap from Brawn. Did you hear on the radio when they told RB that they would have to go to plan B? Makes you wonder.

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05-11-2009, 10:48 AM	#17 (permalink)
EliseAtLeast Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Basking Ridge, NJ Posts: 1,219	Poor Ruben. Story of his life. But then again, if he were the one to have three race wins under his belt, I'm sure the role would be reversed. He only have himself to blame. I do think Button is a better driver that him. At least more consistent if not faster. __________________ '08 Honda S2000 CR (Rio Yellow Pearl) '07 Lotus Exige S (Aspen White) Touring, Traction, Starshield '04 BMW 330 ci (White)

05-11-2009, 11:33 AM	#18 (permalink)
mikester Registered Shmoozer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: So Cal Posts: 4,597	Team orders. It makes sense from a team perspective, but it's got to be really tough for the driver (seems like it's always Barrichelo, doesn't it ?) But you know what, he's paid well and at the end of the day he has little to complain about, compared to most anybody else in the world. And I'm sure he knows it. __________________ Covered in Brandy and Lard