Ebay Warning: 2007 Lotus Elise.. Details inside - LotusTalk

akandok · 09-24-2008, 10:28 PM

Found this:
eBay Motors: Lotus : Elise (item 170265862682 end time Oct-01-08 18:00:00 PDT)

Ran the VIN and found this...

akandok · 09-24-2008, 10:30 PM

Lying about suspension? BIG NO NO

"This Lotus runs and LOT drives excellent with no problems found in the engine, transmission or suspension."

akandok · 09-24-2008, 10:30 PM

oh and VIN #: SCCPC11107HL30041

Mr. Know · 09-24-2008, 10:40 PM

Neither the original nor the ebay seller's pics show suspension damage (that I can see). Would definitely need an inspection. Insurance may have totalled it due to the extensive fiberglass work required. Interesting find.

plastique999 · 09-24-2008, 11:48 PM

that'll buff right out

Demonized · 09-25-2008, 01:09 AM

Looks like they replaced the door, and fixed the suspension?

edit; And they've driven it a mile.

Demonized · 09-25-2008, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Know

Neither the original nor the ebay seller's pics show suspension damage (that I can see). Would definitely need an inspection. Insurance may have totalled it due to the extensive fiberglass work required. Interesting find.

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Mr. Know · 09-25-2008, 01:21 AM

I'm not saying there is or is not frame damage. However, those two pics are merely different camera angles with some fiberglass removed.

Demonized · 09-25-2008, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Know

I'm not saying there is or is not frame damage. However, those two pics are merely different camera angles with some fiberglass removed.

In one picture the tire is resting on the wire above it, in the other it is 4inches away. Or am I just being dumb?

ZTEC · 09-25-2008, 05:41 AM

Is it my imagination or is there tape on the drivers door like numbers used on a track day? call me crazy just an observation!

akandok · 09-25-2008, 07:36 AM

Unless the bottom ball joint somehow popped out.. This car has damage to the suspension.. and the seller claims only fiberglass is damaged..

Im not hating on the salvage elise.. just the unthruthful seller.

MattG · 09-25-2008, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akandok

Unless the bottom ball joint somehow popped out.. This car has damage to the suspension.. and the seller claims only fiberglass is damaged..

Im not hating on the salvage elise.. just the unthruthful seller.

From the pictures it looks like some work was done to the left side - the new door, and the camber of the front left wheel is noticeably improved. It's possible there WAS suspension damage that's been fixed, but honestly, if the suspension was damaged, I'd expect the frame to have been damaged also. There's a good chance they just bent the frame back to get the suspension back within spec. No matter the case, without knowing the full history of the car, this is definitely a car NOT to buy!

Working link (the one above didn't work for me): link

dreaded · 09-25-2008, 07:27 PM

I totally agree.,finding the story behind the car is a MUST in buying.It makes a lot of sense to.

bewise

holmz · 09-25-2008, 08:31 PM

The ebay at least says that it is a salvage, and with the clams cost - it would be easy for it to have been written off.
So it is good the the seller is not dishonest.

The chassis/tub is pretty strong., but the A-arms are designed weak so that they fail first... and you can bend them just strapping them onto a trailer.
Suspension damage, and subsequent replacement is not the same as damaged suspension.

Good find - but it could be "as good as" or "better than" any other car out there... Just needs the inspection.

akandok · 09-26-2008, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holmz

The ebay at least says that it is a salvage, and with the clams cost - it would be easy for it to have been written off.
So it is good the the seller is not dishonest.

The chassis/tub is pretty strong., but the A-arms are designed weak so that they fail first... and you can bend them just strapping them onto a trailer.
Suspension damage, and subsequent replacement is not the same as damaged suspension.

Good find - but it could be "as good as" or "better than" any other car out there... Just needs the inspection.

I posted this on here because I have a salvage Elise. I know what it takes to damage the suspension/frame.

Most people believe that fixing the frame is wrong, and some think its ok as long as it is done properly. But that still doesnt change the fact that the suspension was altered and is advertised as being completely fine.

Ebay Item number: 170265862682

xtn · 09-26-2008, 11:19 AM

Uh... the tire/wheel/hub position in this picture is not a trick of camera angle. It is four or five inches high AND four or five inches back.

elisesile · 01-12-2009, 03:13 PM

Glad you guys are here...I'm in the market for a used Elise, and the salvage ones seem very very attractive. This one just showed up on Ebay again:

eBay Motors: Lotus : Elise (item 170293829638 end time Jan-18-09 20:12:30 PST)

Lotus Talk is better than Carfax. I could easily become the dufus saying, "Hi, I just bought a great salvaged Elise, any advise..."

akandok · 01-12-2009, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elisesile

Glad you guys are here...I'm in the market for a used Elise, and the salvage ones seem very very attractive. This one just showed up on Ebay again:

eBay Motors: Lotus : Elise (item 170293829638 end time Jan-18-09 20:12:30 PST)

Lotus Talk is better than Carfax. I could easily become the dufus saying, "Hi, I just bought a great salvaged Elise, any advise..."

Glad I can help

09-24-2008, 10:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
akandok 2006 Lotus Elise Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,808	Ebay Warning: 2007 Lotus Elise.. Details inside Found this: eBay Motors: Lotus : Elise (item 170265862682 end time Oct-01-08 18:00:00 PDT) Ran the VIN and found this... __________________ “The biggest cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid people are so sure about things and the intelligent folks are so full of doubts.” Bertrand Russell John 3:16 Last edited by Administrator : 02-24-2009 at 05:13 PM. Reason: images removed due to copyright violation

09-24-2008, 10:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
akandok 2006 Lotus Elise Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,808	Lying about suspension? BIG NO NO "This Lotus runs and LOT drives excellent with no problems found in the engine, transmission or suspension." __________________ “The biggest cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid people are so sure about things and the intelligent folks are so full of doubts.” Bertrand Russell John 3:16

09-24-2008, 10:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
akandok 2006 Lotus Elise Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,808	oh and VIN #: SCCPC11107HL30041 __________________ “The biggest cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid people are so sure about things and the intelligent folks are so full of doubts.” Bertrand Russell John 3:16

09-24-2008, 10:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mr. Know British by extrapolation Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Marin, California Posts: 3,349 Images: 6	Neither the original nor the ebay seller's pics show suspension damage (that I can see). Would definitely need an inspection. Insurance may have totalled it due to the extensive fiberglass work required. Interesting find. __________________ 07 Magnetic Blue Exige S Join the Blue Lotus Team on Facebook.

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09-25-2008, 01:09 AM	#6 (permalink)
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09-25-2008, 01:21 AM	#8 (permalink)
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09-25-2008, 05:41 AM	#10 (permalink)
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09-25-2008, 07:36 AM	#11 (permalink)
akandok 2006 Lotus Elise Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,808	Unless the bottom ball joint somehow popped out.. This car has damage to the suspension.. and the seller claims only fiberglass is damaged.. Im not hating on the salvage elise.. just the unthruthful seller. __________________ “The biggest cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid people are so sure about things and the intelligent folks are so full of doubts.” Bertrand Russell John 3:16

09-25-2008, 07:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
dreaded Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 10	To Buy or Not to.. I totally agree.,finding the story behind the car is a MUST in buying.It makes a lot of sense to. bewise

09-25-2008, 08:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
holmz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antipodes Posts: 622 Images: 5	The ebay at least says that it is a salvage, and with the clams cost - it would be easy for it to have been written off. So it is good the the seller is not dishonest. The chassis/tub is pretty strong., but the A-arms are designed weak so that they fail first... and you can bend them just strapping them onto a trailer. Suspension damage, and subsequent replacement is not the same as damaged suspension. Good find - but it could be "as good as" or "better than" any other car out there... Just needs the inspection.

09-26-2008, 11:19 AM	#16 (permalink)
xtn McLareghini Bugatterrari Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 6,845	Uh... the tire/wheel/hub position in this picture is not a trick of camera angle. It is four or five inches high AND four or five inches back. __________________ 2006 McLareghini Bugatterrari, Storm Titanium... <mods> installed: air horn, Scroth 4-point ASM harnesses, Sector111 halon extinguisher and mounting bracket, Von Hep exhaust and rear panel delete, Pagid brake pads, red Volks CE28n wheels, Toyo RA-1 tires, Nitron SA coilovers, Sector111 (WorksBell) quick-disconnect steering wheel kit. awaiting installation: Scroth "pull-up" lap belts, Sector111 RTD Brace, Tony's heater bypass mod, and dropped steering rack mounting plates. </mods> Last edited by Administrator : 02-24-2009 at 05:16 PM. Reason: images removed due to copyright violation

01-12-2009, 03:13 PM	#17 (permalink)
elisesile Also, my rug was stolen. Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 218	Glad you guys are here...I'm in the market for a used Elise, and the salvage ones seem very very attractive. This one just showed up on Ebay again: eBay Motors: Lotus : Elise (item 170293829638 end time Jan-18-09 20:12:30 PST) Lotus Talk is better than Carfax. I could easily become the dufus saying, "Hi, I just bought a great salvaged Elise, any advise..." __________________ 05 Lotus Elise S/T 06 Porsche Carrera S Coupe - for hauling kids and luggage

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