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Rugbyduck · 11-06-2006, 06:10 PM

Looking at my post on page 3, post 55...I use points B (way up front) and C (3/4 back by the vents) WITHOUT taking off the panel. I looked while the panel was off and noted that if the jack is centerered properly around that bolt, that is the center of the jacking point. There was no way i could go with B and D as D is too far back. Also, looking at the pics of the fallen car, they were not close. Looks like B and C should be fine, yes?

Dietrich · 11-06-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugbyduck

Looking at my post on page 3, post 55...I use points B (way up front) and C (3/4 back by the vents) WITHOUT taking off the panel. I looked while the panel was off and noted that if the jack is centerered properly around that bolt, that is the center of the jacking point. There was no way i could go with B and D as D is too far back. Also, looking at the pics of the fallen car, they were not close. Looks like B and C should be fine, yes?

I think your elise should have fallen.

Crow331 · 11-06-2006, 06:33 PM

Ummmmmmmmmm ... your Elise looks like it's on the launching pad. I know they're fast, but to the moon, Alice?

Lotusmotion · 11-06-2006, 06:33 PM

Ouch!

rebel-a-wing · 11-06-2006, 06:44 PM

Sorry man. From now on I only take mine to the same guy who works on them all the time.

smoseley · 11-06-2006, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qball

Okay... I need some contact info. SE Lotus Rep (name and e-mail)
and perhaps Lotus of USA (contact and e-mail)

Mike Fisher. Email should be: mfisher (AT) lotuscars.com

tvacc · 11-06-2006, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebel-a-wing

Sorry man. From now on I only take mine to the same guy who works on them all the time.

When I was at Auto Europe...the Lotus dealer in MI....they had a car on a 4 post lift...no problem. You just have to know what you are doing.

Keeper · 11-06-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mark.r

Sorry this happened to you. Hell I think this should be a sticky as jacking these cars is not very hard but sometimes confusing. Tim has a great idea one side at a time, that is what I will be doing when my tire change is due. Perhaps we can link the jacking links to this thread as this one should stay around for a while.

Tim to clarify, does the undertray (the middle) or the engine (the rear) cover have to come off?

I added this thread to this sticky under the original jacking warning section. Where it said "wrong lift points = bad", "bad" now links to this thread.

http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25131

qball · 11-06-2006, 07:25 PM

Thanks Transio...

Shaggy · 11-06-2006, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rush

and the closest lotus dealer is 6 hours away

Check out MAG in Columbus, only like 2 1/2 - 3 hours from you. They did my 7,500 mile service and I was very happy with them.

mark.r · 11-06-2006, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeper

I added this thread to this sticky under the original jacking warning section. Where it said "wrong lift points = bad", "bad" now links to this thread.

http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25131

Good looking out, thanks.

qball · 11-06-2006, 07:47 PM

I had to change the dancing banana in my signature line... (He's no longer happy!)

Obsidian · 11-06-2006, 08:24 PM

I just can't get this horrible issue out of my brain ...

One thing I can't tell in the pictures ...
PLEASE tell me they put the front wheel/tire back on BEFORE they lowered the car down...

qball · 11-06-2006, 08:38 PM

Yes... they installed the tire before lowering it.

GHOSTRIDER · 11-06-2006, 08:41 PM

No way I just saw what I think I saw.

Steve592 · 11-06-2006, 08:58 PM

Ok, here is a bit of good news. Goodyear has "agreed replacement insurance".. which basically means you agree to a value for the replacement of the vehicle. I have the same coverage from my insurance company (Chubb) they have agreed that my car is worth 55K so if its dropped off a lift or hit by a car ... that is the check that I get ... drag off the old car. Bring in the new one.

Now for your side. Call Goodyear and deny repair. In short, you broke it buddy you bought it. I do not think that neglect in that area can not be consider lack of fault and thier Lawyer will tell them "pay off as its cheaper" then they will file it as a "accidental" loss. The one thing that you want to do is get the right to salvage your add-on parts.

Drop me a PM if you need help in getting this done. I have had to do this once before with a Ferrari that we had. Its not a big deal. In short, go buy a new car. Go do your event. If not then you can claim that also as a "loss".

Thats why we buy "exotics" to enjoy them .. treat them as toys not drivers.

hope this helps
Steve

choi0706 · 11-06-2006, 09:14 PM

quick, I'll trade you wheels..

bluejae · 11-06-2006, 09:16 PM

i'm sorry man... it was all i could think about today...

qball · 11-06-2006, 09:17 PM

Okay... I'm all depressed now...

If the car gets totaled, I'm thinking of all the things I wont' get...

dual oil coolers
anodized sport wheels (vs. painted)
Saffron yellow paint

lotusport · 11-06-2006, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by qball

Okay... I'm all depressed now...

Oh, God, Q! I'm so sorry to see that. (Looks as if they had the car balanced until the RF tire was removed...)

I agree with many of the others here -- total the car, especially if there is any indication of a tweak to the chassis. Hell, if repairs run to 2/3 the cost of a new one, they'll want to total it anyway.

Best of luck all the way on this.

11-06-2006, 06:10 PM	#121 (permalink)
Rugbyduck Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 2,795	Looking at my post on page 3, post 55...I use points B (way up front) and C (3/4 back by the vents) WITHOUT taking off the panel. I looked while the panel was off and noted that if the jack is centerered properly around that bolt, that is the center of the jacking point. There was no way i could go with B and D as D is too far back. Also, looking at the pics of the fallen car, they were not close. Looks like B and C should be fine, yes? __________________ '06 Krypton Green Elise (touring/LSD/HT) '05 Magnetic Blue Elise (sport/HT) dedicated track car '07 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (4 door!) Excelsior-Henderson Super X/Ducati Monster 620 ie 3 Series BMW/Acura MDX Carver Yacht

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11-06-2006, 08:58 PM	#136 (permalink)
Steve592 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 60	Replacement Ok, here is a bit of good news. Goodyear has "agreed replacement insurance".. which basically means you agree to a value for the replacement of the vehicle. I have the same coverage from my insurance company (Chubb) they have agreed that my car is worth 55K so if its dropped off a lift or hit by a car ... that is the check that I get ... drag off the old car. Bring in the new one. Now for your side. Call Goodyear and deny repair. In short, you broke it buddy you bought it. I do not think that neglect in that area can not be consider lack of fault and thier Lawyer will tell them "pay off as its cheaper" then they will file it as a "accidental" loss. The one thing that you want to do is get the right to salvage your add-on parts. Drop me a PM if you need help in getting this done. I have had to do this once before with a Ferrari that we had. Its not a big deal. In short, go buy a new car. Go do your event. If not then you can claim that also as a "loss". Thats why we buy "exotics" to enjoy them .. treat them as toys not drivers. hope this helps Steve

11-06-2006, 09:14 PM	#137 (permalink)
choi0706 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houston/Austin Posts: 4,224	quick, I'll trade you wheels.. __________________ Jay-05' ST, HT, Touring Red Rally Ready

11-06-2006, 06:33 PM	#123 (permalink)
Crow331 My new wheels Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: City of Angels Posts: 389	Ummmmmmmmmm ... your Elise looks like it's on the launching pad. I know they're fast, but to the moon, Alice?

11-06-2006, 06:44 PM	#125 (permalink)
rebel-a-wing Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 75	Sorry man. From now on I only take mine to the same guy who works on them all the time.

11-06-2006, 07:25 PM	#129 (permalink)
qball Wizard of Pugz! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 4,513 Images: 3	Thanks Transio...

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qball Wizard of Pugz! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 4,513 Images: 3	I had to change the dancing banana in my signature line... (He's no longer happy!)

11-06-2006, 08:24 PM	#133 (permalink)
Obsidian Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 305	I just can't get this horrible issue out of my brain ... One thing I can't tell in the pictures ... PLEASE tell me they put the front wheel/tire back on BEFORE they lowered the car down...

11-06-2006, 08:38 PM	#134 (permalink)
qball Wizard of Pugz! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 4,513 Images: 3	Yes... they installed the tire before lowering it.

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11-06-2006, 09:17 PM	#139 (permalink)
qball Wizard of Pugz! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 4,513 Images: 3	Okay... I'm all depressed now... If the car gets totaled, I'm thinking of all the things I wont' get... dual oil coolers anodized sport wheels (vs. painted) Saffron yellow paint Last edited by qball : 11-06-2006 at 09:42 PM.

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