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Old 11-06-2006, 09:33 PM   #141 (permalink)
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depressed?

why be depressed its not like they stopped making saffron yellow elises.

Just think about it as a potential to get an exige s.

sorry for your loss but I think you'll find another love.

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Old 11-06-2006, 09:38 PM   #142 (permalink)
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As a couple of people already mentioned, there's only one way to get tires mounted. Here are the detailed instructions:
  1. Remove wheels from car.
  2. Load wheels into car/truck.
  3. Drive car/truck to shop.
  4. Hand wheels to shop employee.
  5. Ask shop employee to be careful not to scratch rims.
  6. Depending on shop, point out to shop employee that tires are directional and/or asymmetrical.
  7. Get wheels back.
  8. Check that tires are mounted in proper direction.
  9. Check that wheels are not scratched.
  10. Load wheels into car/truck.
  11. Drive home.
  12. Mount wheels on car.

That applies to any car. I wouldn't dream of letting a random tire place work on my Elise. And even less leaving my car there unsupervised.

Sorry to hear that this happened. It hurts to see your nice car like this. But you were taking a big risk. I could tell you a few stories... and they include a Lotus dealership.
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Old 11-06-2006, 09:39 PM   #143 (permalink)
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Coping strategy for when the smoke clears? I say buy a lightly used (or leftover) 06 Exige at a discount, or if you're willing to shell out the extra $$$ an Exige S.

It's about the only car that could get me out of mine. (But you can never tell with the little "ripples" of well known aftermarket folks coming out with FI and what not for the Elise... e.g. Jackson Racing... *wow*).
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Old 11-06-2006, 09:54 PM   #144 (permalink)
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Okay... I'm all depressed now...

If the car gets totaled, I'm thinking of all the things I wont' get...

dual oil coolers
anodized sport wheels (vs. painted)
Saffron yellow paint

Buy a used 05, get your two coolers back
Buy a new 06 sport, get your two coolers
Salvage your old wheels to get your anodized wheels.
Powdercoat your wheels
Buy a used 05 get saffron yellow back
Take the money and buy a Lotus Sport Elise, get your saffron yellow, lots of sporting goodies and two oil coolers
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Old 11-06-2006, 10:00 PM   #145 (permalink)
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Looking at my post on page 3, post 55...I use points B (way up front) and C (3/4 back by the vents) WITHOUT taking off the panel.
B and C should be fine; the manual (page 148-149) even explicitly lists these for use with a 4-point lift. D is impossible to reach with a typical 2-post 4-point lift because the rear wheels are in the way of the lift arms.

I'd be nervous about using C without removing the panel, though. From what I recall, it was really hard to hit the C points because the crossmember you're aiming for is very thin and there are protrusions nearby that get in the way. When my father and I tried it on his lift, we initially had the arms a cm or two too far forward and it was clear that that the gas tank body panel was taking some of the weight instead of the structural piece hidden above it. We were able to make some adjustments to the arm position with the car in the air (using some really tall jack stands designed for this purpose) and finally got it solidly in place.

Doing the lift procedure myself and seeing what's involved has made me that much more wary of who I'll let work on the car.
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Old 11-06-2006, 11:55 PM   #146 (permalink)
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That car is a write off - the chassis tub is punctured - as such the main structure is in need of replacement - do not accept anything other than a total pay out for your loss and expenses.

I run my own body shop and as such would recommend this as an insurance loss if it came to me - other than the puncture in the tub it would repair OK.
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Old 11-07-2006, 01:16 AM   #147 (permalink)
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Old 11-07-2006, 01:18 AM   #148 (permalink)
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i think you really will need a lawyer for this one.
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Old 11-07-2006, 01:20 AM   #149 (permalink)
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Tell the tech to go HERE


Edited due to damaging virus being linked.

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Old 11-07-2006, 01:22 AM   #150 (permalink)
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Okay... I'm all depressed now...

If the car gets totaled, I'm thinking of all the things I wont' get...

dual oil coolers
anodized sport wheels (vs. painted)
Saffron yellow paint

true, true, true.. and who wants to get a used car? the resale is probably worse with multiple owners! Also the time spent installing the mods... all wasted. You should expect them to buy you a completely NEW one. If they cannot do that, get a lawyer.
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Old 11-07-2006, 01:30 AM   #151 (permalink)
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Old 11-07-2006, 04:31 AM   #152 (permalink)
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Ouch!

What was the mechanic thinking? He's pulled a wheel off and must have felt the balance changing.
It's no problem to lift an Elise on such a hoist as long as you attach a weight to the front suspension and constantly monitor the balance.

As for the damage.. It don't think it's that bad.. You will definately need a new rearclam and diffuser (not sure about the undertray). The frontclam might be repairable or needs to be replaced.
The stress on the chassis is no isssue. The glue used for the chassis is very rigid. It will either snap loose or will stay foot. In this case, I don't think the chassis is either bent or structurally damaged. The puncture in the floor is purely aesthetic. (unfortunately) I assume Lotus will propose to bond another ali panel onto the punctured area.

The only thing that needs to be checked is the rear subframe. As this is made of cheese compared to the Elise S1 and Rover engined Elise S2, this might have been damaged. But.. replacable.

At the end, the only thing which will remain is the puncture in the floor, that will need good care, the rest is perfectly repairable.
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Old 11-07-2006, 05:02 AM   #153 (permalink)
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Wow
I can only imagine the knot in your stomach when to first laid eyes on the scene. Sureal; surely this is a joke!

It is good to see that you have not lost you sense of humor over the matter.
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Old 11-07-2006, 06:22 AM   #154 (permalink)
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Link crashed our system

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Tell the tech to go EDITED
This is dreamcar's wife - I've been following this post - sorry man...

I wouldn't recommend "checking out" this link as I just did - I crashed my entire system...

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Old 11-07-2006, 06:37 AM   #155 (permalink)
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This is dreamcar's wife - I've been following this post - sorry man...

I wouldn't recommend "checking out" this link as I just did - I crashed my entire system...
Yeah, there's a trojan attached to it. Norton antivirus made a popup on my pc. Don't open that link!
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Old 11-07-2006, 06:39 AM   #156 (permalink)
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Qball, sorry for your loss.

I hope they get to use your pictures for the inevitable ebay auction.
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Old 11-07-2006, 07:32 AM   #157 (permalink)
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I edited Jib222's post and removed the virus link. I doubt he meant to do that.
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Old 11-07-2006, 08:09 AM   #158 (permalink)
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Sure it's repairable. One could circle drill out the hole in the floor to remove the affected area and relieve any stress risers and then bond/rivet round cover plates over/under the hole. It would be as good as new, functionally speaking.

Just because Lotus says "damage not repairable" doesn't mean that's true for any and all conditions. It mostly applies to the extrusions and/or suspension pickup points. A little common sense will tell you that the floor sheets can be treated like an airplane's wing skin.

That being said... I'm sure the hole isn't the only problem, and I sure would fight for a replacement, not repair, using that hole and the language in the manual as leverage if necessary.

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Old 11-07-2006, 08:11 AM   #159 (permalink)
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Goodyear/Firestone shops? Don't bother. Ever.

They have no idea what they are doing and have been featured in numerous news investigations for ripping off customers.
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Old 11-07-2006, 08:40 AM   #160 (permalink)
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I don't think anyone has posted that this made Jalopnik today: http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/news/th...ndo-212968.php
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