Lola got backed into by Avalanche! Damage, Help! Advice? - LotusTalk

jasanch5 · 07-15-2008, 02:27 PM

I was sitting in her with the windows down waiting for my gf to get out of class... some lady got in her truck and hammered it in reverse straight into me (she didn't even turn while backing out) I was leaning on the horn the last 5 feet she came at me. Had she been backing up like a semi-intelligent person she would have seen me or heard my horn and this all could have been avoided. What do you think needs to be replaced? Estimated cost? I haven't opened the door I don't think I will. Glass is shattered, door got owned, front of the rear clam paint is messed up and possibly cracked fiberglass in door jam?? Maybe bent door hinge? ....

Chris Mackey · 07-15-2008, 02:32 PM

I have no idea, but good luck.

MattG · 07-15-2008, 04:43 PM

Depends...I wouldn't be surprised to see this top $10k though, and that's assuming the rear clam can be repaired.

Just a heads up, I've heard of other mag blue owners having a hard time getting the new paint to match the old. Be sure to inspect it carefully when you pick it up from the body shop, look for too much/little purple.

cory1000 · 07-15-2008, 05:25 PM

lets get these out of the way:

1. That will buff right out.
2. Totaled, time to upgrade.

Could add up to a lot depending if the damage on the clams can be fixed or they need to be replaced. Take a closer look and see of there are sections that that have stress cracks or not, that will determine if they are repaired or replaced.

ZAMMY1 · 07-15-2008, 05:30 PM

that's why people shouldn't carry sidearms...or maybe they really should...
just another CDL driver. (comatose driver's license)
it's a shame
sam

steuspeed · 07-15-2008, 05:40 PM

Horn upgrade

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TimMullen · 07-15-2008, 05:58 PM

Okay, I'll be the doom sayer. I'd be very concerned that the door beam in the door is bent. And that in turn would make me concerned about the door hinge in front and the roll bar in the rear (the door attaches to it when closed. There could be a lot of hidden damage there - more than just the door, door beam, and rear clam.

Hope the other "driver" has good insurance...

Green Ghost · 07-15-2008, 06:39 PM

The idiot backed in to your door? Or the front and pushed the clam into the door and on into the rear clam.

I’m assuming you got hit in the door. If the chassis where the hinge and/or door latch pin (the thing you get with you elbow sometimes) mounts, then you may need a NEW CAR.

Kevin

jasanch5 · 07-15-2008, 07:42 PM

To further add to the scene... evalanche met my door straight on

lotusforsale · 07-15-2008, 07:54 PM

Good luck, I hope it can be repaired.

Is that where your car was sitting when hit?

I know it's the other driver's fault, technically...she was moving you were stationary.

But...I'm in the habit, when in a parking area lot that, of operating the car as if:
1) Nobody can see me.
2) Nobody will hear the horn. They won't, the horns on these cars suck.

Again, feel bad for you, and hope the other driver's insurance comes through and the car can be repaired, but if the pic shows where the cars were sitting, I'm not terribly surprised you got clobbered.

jasanch5 · 07-15-2008, 08:09 PM

Yeah... the pic was as it went down. She walked out of a door on the passenger side, had to walk around my car to get to hers... tho she walked past her car for some reason and then got in it...

Eclise · 07-15-2008, 08:17 PM

That pic is, I presume, a bit deceptive...

No white lines next to your car makes it look like you are parking where you shouldn't.

Also, the perspective makes it look like there isn't much room between your car and the other vehicles.

I'm not blaming you, just saying that the pic isn't one you want to hand over to the insurance company!

Good luck.

BTW, how did she NOT see your car when she hopped into her truck to leave??? Surely she saw this strange blue car behind her vehicle?

dumdumhead · 07-15-2008, 09:53 PM

I've had something like this happen to me before in a different car (lowered 3000gt VR-4), and apparently, it's not uncommon for drivers to not turn their head when backing up, and just solely rely on mirrors, which work fine most of the time for most cars. However, trucks are not our friends...

I've done my fair share of waiting in parking lots, and if there is some one even remotely close to me trying to back up, I'm outta there.

Good luck with the repairs.

Rei · 07-16-2008, 12:48 AM

They should make a dune buggy flag that's retractable for the Elise.

Vampyre · 07-16-2008, 06:24 AM

Too bad about the accident... But the door does not looks like it is lining up correctly.

It looks like the door hinge may be bent, and if that is the case that is not good news.

I know it is a bit late now, but never sit behind a vehicle trying to back up.

jasanch5 · 07-16-2008, 01:40 PM

First estimate without openining the door (prelim) was for $8,1XX.XX... They said it'd only go up from there. Now I'm dealing with the insurance co for liability... ARG!!!

Brennon · 07-16-2008, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasanch5

First estimate without openining the door (prelim) was for $8,1XX.XX... They said it'd only go up from there. Now I'm dealing with the insurance co for liability... ARG!!!

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's quite a bit more than 8k. Is the rocker panel damaged at all? It looks as if it may be. That's no small task to replace.

waydui · 07-17-2008, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattG

Just a heads up, I've heard of other mag blue owners having a hard time getting the new paint to match the old. Be sure to inspect it carefully when you pick it up from the body shop, look for too much/little purple.

Amen to that! I had my mag blue rear clam replaced (after accident) and the new paint is just a little off.

The paint job is excellent, better than factory, but it is a little short on the purple hue. Also, has more "flake" in it than OEM paint.

Truth be told, I like the new paint better than the original.

But do check carefully before signing off on it.

Regards,
Wayne

jasanch5 · 07-19-2008, 05:11 PM

I'm worried how they are going to replace or repair this part. There is a crack through the fiberglass down inbetween the door and car. Isn't it part of the frame?

Bavarian Motorist · 07-19-2008, 05:47 PM

Try to fight for diminished value as well. It may depend on the laws in your state, but many here have gotten awarded their DESERVED diminished value.

07-15-2008, 02:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
jasanch5 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: The middle of nowhere Posts: 76	Lola got backed into by Avalanche! Damage, Help! Advice? I was sitting in her with the windows down waiting for my gf to get out of class... some lady got in her truck and hammered it in reverse straight into me (she didn't even turn while backing out) I was leaning on the horn the last 5 feet she came at me. Had she been backing up like a semi-intelligent person she would have seen me or heard my horn and this all could have been avoided. What do you think needs to be replaced? Estimated cost? I haven't opened the door I don't think I will. Glass is shattered, door got owned, front of the rear clam paint is messed up and possibly cracked fiberglass in door jam?? Maybe bent door hinge? .... Attached Images

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MattG insert clever title here Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Living above the clouds in Colorado Posts: 7,676 Images: 11	Depends...I wouldn't be surprised to see this top $10k though, and that's assuming the rear clam can be repaired. Just a heads up, I've heard of other mag blue owners having a hard time getting the new paint to match the old. Be sure to inspect it carefully when you pick it up from the body shop, look for too much/little purple. __________________ '05 Elise, Magnetic Blue / Biscuit / Hardtop / http://eliseinfo.com Radar detector mounting brackets for sale here

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TimMullen Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Chantilly, VA Posts: 11,387 Images: 19	Okay, I'll be the doom sayer. I'd be very concerned that the door beam in the door is bent. And that in turn would make me concerned about the door hinge in front and the roll bar in the rear (the door attaches to it when closed. There could be a lot of hidden damage there - more than just the door, door beam, and rear clam. Hope the other "driver" has good insurance... __________________ Tim Mullen --- There is no such thing as Touring suspension or Touring wheels. I love being married. It's so great to find that one person that you want to annoy for the rest of your life. - Rita Rudner Chantilly, VA http://members.cox.net/elans4/ 05 Lotus Elise - Chrome Orange - No Touring - No LSS - No Hardtop - Lotus Driving Lights - Lotus "Chin Guards" - plain and simple. 94 Miata R Package - Black 72 Lotus Elan Sprint - Colorado Orange/Cirrus White

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jasanch5 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: The middle of nowhere Posts: 76	To further add to the scene... evalanche met my door straight on Attached Images

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cory1000 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,925	lets get these out of the way: 1. That will buff right out. 2. Totaled, time to upgrade. Could add up to a lot depending if the damage on the clams can be fixed or they need to be replaced. Take a closer look and see of there are sections that that have stress cracks or not, that will determine if they are repaired or replaced.

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ZAMMY1 ZAMMY Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: washington, pa, (near PGH.) Posts: 1,557	that's why people shouldn't carry sidearms...or maybe they really should... just another CDL driver. (comatose driver's license) it's a shame sam

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Green Ghost Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: orange county Posts: 1,184 Images: 26	The idiot backed in to your door? Or the front and pushed the clam into the door and on into the rear clam. I’m assuming you got hit in the door. If the chassis where the hinge and/or door latch pin (the thing you get with you elbow sometimes) mounts, then you may need a NEW CAR. Kevin

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lotusforsale Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,223 Images: 8	Good luck, I hope it can be repaired. Is that where your car was sitting when hit? I know it's the other driver's fault, technically...she was moving you were stationary. But...I'm in the habit, when in a parking area lot that, of operating the car as if: 1) Nobody can see me. 2) Nobody will hear the horn. They won't, the horns on these cars suck. Again, feel bad for you, and hope the other driver's insurance comes through and the car can be repaired, but if the pic shows where the cars were sitting, I'm not terribly surprised you got clobbered.

07-15-2008, 08:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
jasanch5 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: The middle of nowhere Posts: 76	Yeah... the pic was as it went down. She walked out of a door on the passenger side, had to walk around my car to get to hers... tho she walked past her car for some reason and then got in it...

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Eclise Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,206	That pic is, I presume, a bit deceptive... No white lines next to your car makes it look like you are parking where you shouldn't. Also, the perspective makes it look like there isn't much room between your car and the other vehicles. I'm not blaming you, just saying that the pic isn't one you want to hand over to the insurance company! Good luck. BTW, how did she NOT see your car when she hopped into her truck to leave??? Surely she saw this strange blue car behind her vehicle?

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dumdumhead Imbecilic Racing Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cupertino, CA Posts: 41	I've had something like this happen to me before in a different car (lowered 3000gt VR-4), and apparently, it's not uncommon for drivers to not turn their head when backing up, and just solely rely on mirrors, which work fine most of the time for most cars. However, trucks are not our friends... I've done my fair share of waiting in parking lots, and if there is some one even remotely close to me trying to back up, I'm outta there. Good luck with the repairs.

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Vampyre Sports Cars Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 1,940	Too bad about the accident... But the door does not looks like it is lining up correctly. It looks like the door hinge may be bent, and if that is the case that is not good news. I know it is a bit late now, but never sit behind a vehicle trying to back up. __________________ 2006 Chili Red / Touring / LSD / TC / Forged Wheels / Hard & Soft Top / Lifestyle Paint / Desnorkeled / Odyssey Battery / Sector 111 Extinguisher Bracket / Sector 111 LidBone / CF Splitter / CF Bits / Lotus Stage 2 / Pure X C3 Corvette 383 TPI Stroker 6.3 liters of Torque / 1976 MG Midget, fun run about / 2005 Mits Evo 8 ACD/SSL / Dodge Van for hauling stuff / http://www.photobucket.com/mygarage

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07-16-2008, 01:40 PM	#16 (permalink)
jasanch5 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: The middle of nowhere Posts: 76	First estimate without openining the door (prelim) was for $8,1XX.XX... They said it'd only go up from there. Now I'm dealing with the insurance co for liability... ARG!!!

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jasanch5 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: The middle of nowhere Posts: 76	I'm worried how they are going to replace or repair this part. There is a crack through the fiberglass down inbetween the door and car. Isn't it part of the frame? Attached Images

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