What is it with this new forum owner? - LotusTalk

Rugbyduck · 05-23-2008, 12:22 PM

Since it's no longer Randy's forum (although I bet he will chime in)

, why is it the Viper Alley thread was closed on this forum? You gave an explanation but what I find not so amusing is that my account over on Viper Alley has now been suspended.

Granted, all I'd like to do is get a rise out of them...but isn't that what their whole gig is in the thread that was posted here? wow! and you thought some of our members are tough on new comers

Here is what I take issue with...BOTH forums are owned by the same company. This forum has decided to censor content (which I have learned to agree with). Why then is a forum owned by the same group now censoring content from certain members with no explanation?

If I decide to go to Viper Alley and throw around an F-bomb along with the other degenerates there...why then does my account become suspended? Seems like some kind of elitism not only over there but by the same company that owns this site. What a great money making scheme this is!

Any bets on censorship for this thread? Come on Randy...give a good reason for this one!

Eclise · 05-23-2008, 12:41 PM

Bawhaha, I just went and read the thread at the Viper forums. Those guys are hilarious. I know I should be appalled by their behavior, but those guys have perfected vicious comments.

Randy Chase · 05-23-2008, 12:44 PM

lol

I can't answer for Viper Alley or for Autoforums and I won't. But it seems to me that after reading your posts over there, an easy explanation is you were seen as a problem on that forum and they suspended your account because of it. Nothing to do with this forum. If someone joins this forum and posted what you posted there, I would immediately ban them and not ask any questions about it. As you say, you joined and posted to get a rise out of them. Seems simple enough. Most forums ban trolls.

I explained why I closed the thread here. I have always done that when it comes to forum vs forum threads. As I said, I have experience in this area and the outcome of those kinds of threads is a lot of work for me.

And no.. you won't get censored. Silly, take off the foil hat.

RacyTracy · 05-23-2008, 12:45 PM

Intent maybe? They seem like a**es because that's probably just the way they are.....whereas you went there to intentionally be disruptive and looking for a fight. Not criticizing.....just guessing.

Rugbyduck · 05-23-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RacyTracy

Intent maybe? They seem like a**es because that's probably just the way they are.....whereas you went there to intentionally be disruptive and looking for a fight. Not criticizing.....just guessing.

But isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?

They can dish it out but can't take it?

I've followed the rules here and have tempered my "negative enthusiasm". When it comes to those dilkheads there, seems they only protect their own. I just find it amusing considering the same group owns both forums.

RoadDad · 05-23-2008, 12:57 PM

RacyTracy · 05-23-2008, 12:57 PM

But Randy closed the thread on LT. I think if he had the power he would have closed the thread on the Viper forum about 70 pages ago.

mopho · 05-23-2008, 01:02 PM

Brilliant job posting a link back to this place so to invite those jerks here and start a forum war, very mature!

And now you are wondering why you were banned from there, that is just rich

RacyTracy · 05-23-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mopho

Brilliant job posting a link back to this place so to invite those jerks here and start a forum war, very mature!

I would have thought that might get him banned here, not there.

Rugbyduck · 05-23-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mopho

Brilliant job posting a link back to this place so to invite those jerks here and start a forum war, very mature!

And now you are wondering why you were banned from there, that is just rich

I guess that's just one more reason why forums owned by the same group should hold the same standards!

If that were the case, that thread would have been closed already.

We can't ALL be as mature as you mopho.

But thanks for proving my point.

Rugbyduck · 05-23-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RacyTracy

I would have thought that might get him banned here, not there.

Like Randy said...they are independent. Why would I be banned from ET for posting a link there?

mopho · 05-23-2008, 01:13 PM

You got banned from there because you were a troll, how hard is that for you to understand?

RacyTracy · 05-23-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugbyduck

Like Randy said...they are independent. Why would I be banned from ET for posting a link there?

Because the link you posted was basically an invitation for them to come here and continue the fight, causing the disruption to the forum that Randy was trying to prevent.

Rugbyduck · 05-23-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mopho

You got banned from there because you were a troll, how hard is that for you to understand?

Didn't expect you would see the point.

I figured you would just dive right into the "bashing".

That forum see no problem with a "nOObie" posting and then getting lambasted for just a post? The way they did? You take no issue with that?

Rugbyduck · 05-23-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RacyTracy

Because the link you posted was basically an invitation for them to come here and continue the fight, causing the disruption to the forum that Randy was trying to prevent.

See my previous post. If they were run the same, there would not be an issue. With $$$ at stake, why change, right?

RacyTracy · 05-23-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugbyduck

That forum see no problem with a "nOObie" posting and then getting lambasted for just a post? The way they did? You take no issue with that?

I know you weren't asking me, but I would take issue with the way everyone handled it......except the poor noobie OP.

RacyTracy · 05-23-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugbyduck

f they were run the same, there would not be an issue. With $$$ at stake, why change, right?

So would you suggest that we loosen the reins here or that they need to tighten them up over there? As long as Randy has Admin powers here, I think it's a safe bet this forum will be run pretty much the same as it always has been.

Eclise · 05-23-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RacyTracy

I know you weren't asking me, but I would take issue with the way everyone handled it......except the poor noobie OP.

"Poor noobie OP"??? Are you kidding me!?! He deserved it for driving a Trans Am!

J/K, of course.

Rugbyduck · 05-23-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RacyTracy

So would you suggest that we loosen the reins here or that they need to tighten them up over there? As long as Randy has Admin powers here, I think it's a safe bet this forum will be run pretty much the same as it always has been.

I would much rather it run the way it has here. I didn't feel that way initially, but I feel that leaves serious discussion for the enthusiast. Everyone has an opinion when it comes to LT banning and I've never stepped into that discussion. Seems they should allow all or none to be rude over there. Worse to be rude or a troll?

mopho · 05-23-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugbyduck

Didn't expect you would see the point.

I figured you would just dive right into the "bashing".

That forum see no problem with a "nOObie" posting and then getting lambasted for just a post? The way they did? You take no issue with that?

I do take issue with that, but I don't care what they do on THEIR forum, I don't hang out there! If they allow it, that is THEIR problem!
YOU still went over there as a TROLL and attempted to start a war between the two forums, that could have become OUR problem. I have seen it happen before and creates a LOT of work for the moderators

Just because they are owned by the same company, doesn't mean they need to be moderated in the same way. They are two different types of forums that had different beginnings and different kinds of people as members, I am sure the owners did not want to change the original concepts of each forum if it is working. As a matter of fact, when Randy announced the takeover, he specifically said that they intend to run the forum as it always has.

05-23-2008, 12:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rugbyduck Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 2,795	What is it with this new forum owner? Since it's no longer Randy's forum (although I bet he will chime in), why is it the Viper Alley thread was closed on this forum? You gave an explanation but what I find not so amusing is that my account over on Viper Alley has now been suspended. Granted, all I'd like to do is get a rise out of them...but isn't that what their whole gig is in the thread that was posted here? wow! and you thought some of our members are tough on new comers Here is what I take issue with...BOTH forums are owned by the same company. This forum has decided to censor content (which I have learned to agree with). Why then is a forum owned by the same group now censoring content from certain members with no explanation? If I decide to go to Viper Alley and throw around an F-bomb along with the other degenerates there...why then does my account become suspended? Seems like some kind of elitism not only over there but by the same company that owns this site. What a great money making scheme this is! Any bets on censorship for this thread? Come on Randy...give a good reason for this one! __________________ '06 Krypton Green Elise (touring/LSD/HT) '05 Magnetic Blue Elise (sport/HT) dedicated track car '07 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (4 door!) Excelsior-Henderson Super X/Ducati Monster 620 ie 3 Series BMW/Acura MDX Carver Yacht

05-23-2008, 12:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,175 Images: 761	lol I can't answer for Viper Alley or for Autoforums and I won't. But it seems to me that after reading your posts over there, an easy explanation is you were seen as a problem on that forum and they suspended your account because of it. Nothing to do with this forum. If someone joins this forum and posted what you posted there, I would immediately ban them and not ask any questions about it. As you say, you joined and posted to get a rise out of them. Seems simple enough. Most forums ban trolls. I explained why I closed the thread here. I have always done that when it comes to forum vs forum threads. As I said, I have experience in this area and the outcome of those kinds of threads is a lot of work for me. And no.. you won't get censored. Silly, take off the foil hat. __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! http://www.facebook.com/randychase 1991 Toyota MR2. AutoX Beast 2006 Noble M400. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Canyon Carver. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle. On Order: Lotus Evora Next: McLaren MP4-12C

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05-23-2008, 01:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
mopho goofn' with the bees Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: out of a suitcase- my stuff lives in LA Posts: 5,310	Brilliant job posting a link back to this place so to invite those jerks here and start a forum war, very mature! And now you are wondering why you were banned from there, that is just rich __________________ ________________ 2004 Caterham 7 Superlight R - 67 Lotus Elan www.morgansegal.com www.socalsportscar.com

05-23-2008, 01:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
mopho goofn' with the bees Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: out of a suitcase- my stuff lives in LA Posts: 5,310	You got banned from there because you were a troll, how hard is that for you to understand? __________________ ________________ 2004 Caterham 7 Superlight R - 67 Lotus Elan www.morgansegal.com www.socalsportscar.com

05-23-2008, 12:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
Eclise Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,206	Bawhaha, I just went and read the thread at the Viper forums. Those guys are hilarious. I know I should be appalled by their behavior, but those guys have perfected vicious comments.

05-23-2008, 12:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
RacyTracy V Not my picture V Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Palatine, IL Posts: 9,205 Images: 1	Intent maybe? They seem like a**es because that's probably just the way they are.....whereas you went there to intentionally be disruptive and looking for a fight. Not criticizing.....just guessing.

05-23-2008, 12:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
RacyTracy V Not my picture V Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Palatine, IL Posts: 9,205 Images: 1	But Randy closed the thread on LT. I think if he had the power he would have closed the thread on the Viper forum about 70 pages ago.

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