Maintenance and such - LotusTalk

pwn · 10-06-2009, 02:01 AM

Just curious, what do you guys do when something breaks? Fix it yourself? Use the CNC machine you happen to have laying around to make another bracket that you can't source or a something or other? I think these cars are awesome, and I see an M400 I could possibly pick up...but I wonder what its going to be like actually owning it and putting some miles on it :s. Whats the general consensus in this area like?

Dragon · 10-06-2009, 02:20 AM

If it breaks I order parts and fix it myself...

pwn · 10-06-2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragon

If it breaks I order parts and fix it myself...

Do you have a noble?

Dragon · 10-06-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pwn

Do you have a noble?

Doh' ummm, nope... This is what happens when you don't pay attention.

But if I did I would still work on in myself...

def · 10-06-2009, 04:55 PM

You can still source parts from Rossion I believe. Dean in Florida could get you mostly everything I think? I'm sure it gets crazy pricey with these cars quickly though

I thought lotus clamshells were expensive at a few $K a pop, plus paint plus install, but then I saw this:
Where to Get Rear Clamshell - Noble Rossion Forums
£3500 in the UK - unpainted. That's $5,500 give or take. Don't forget shipping to the US, and clear-bra. Sounds like a decent amount of work to replace a clam too (similar to the lotus)?

For Maintenence/repairs, if you can't do it, I'm sure Hoover at Turbohoses in Livermore could

ADR3 · 10-06-2009, 06:59 PM

I had a Noble for 5 years and used an ex-Porsche techician/race shop owner for support. I could always get parts either from 1G/Rossion or from the local Ford dealer. The car uses a lot of standard Ford parts.

In Texas there is a Rossion service provider in each major city. There is a shop in Dallas, one in Austin and one in Houston. They can also work on Nobles of course.

Any good race shop with some turbo experience can easily support the cars.

Bgwilly31 · 10-07-2009, 08:28 AM

The rossion clamshell might be cheaper.

pwn · 10-07-2009, 11:33 AM

Is there anything on these cars that tend to break? Are suspension parts insanely unique, or are they like the engine using components that are found commonly in other cars? I love the cars and think their performance factor is amazing, I just wonder how its going to go if something breaks.

I know that's a stupid thing to even think about if I am considering a noble.

ADR3 · 10-08-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pwn

Is there anything on these cars that tend to break? Are suspension parts insanely unique, or are they like the engine using components that are found commonly in other cars? I love the cars and think their performance factor is amazing, I just wonder how its going to go if something breaks.

I know that's a stupid thing to even think about if I am considering a noble.

PM me if you like or we can talk on the phone. I can tell you more details. Summary is that maintenance is not really an issue to worry about. Maintaining my Noble was much less expensive than the 911s.

There is nothing magic or expensive about the suspension parts. If you had to order a clam out of SA, it would cost some but nothing close to what a front bumper costs on a 911, Lambo, Ferrari, etc.

D

Randy Chase · 10-08-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bgwilly31

The rossion clamshell might be cheaper.

I can speak from experience it is a lot less likely to break than the Elise.

Randy Chase · 10-08-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pwn

Is there anything on these cars that tend to break? Are suspension parts insanely unique, or are they like the engine using components that are found commonly in other cars? I love the cars and think their performance factor is amazing, I just wonder how its going to go if something breaks.

I know that's a stupid thing to even think about if I am considering a noble.

I don't think it is stupid at all. Nobody likes throwing money away. The good news is that for the most part, the parts are not that expensive and work can be done by anyone that is handy. Most of the car is very accessible. Specially compared to my Elise.

choi0706 · 10-11-2009, 07:29 PM

randy, i was flipping through some cars on my alignment rack and came across the q1.. got any photos of the q1 suspension? I was suprised to see 10.5 deg of caster..

CosmosMpower · 10-27-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ADR3

I had a Noble for 5 years and used an ex-Porsche techician/race shop owner for support. I could always get parts either from 1G/Rossion or from the local Ford dealer. The car uses a lot of standard Ford parts.

In Texas there is a Rossion service provider in each major city. There is a shop in Dallas, one in Austin and one in Houston. They can also work on Nobles of course.

Any good race shop with some turbo experience can easily support the cars.

Who is the shop in Dallas? With the shenanigans going on at Overseas it sounds like the Noble support system is better than Lotus in the DFW area!!

doug_porsche · 10-27-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by choi0706

randy, i was flipping through some cars on my alignment rack and came across the q1.. got any photos of the q1 suspension? I was suprised to see 10.5 deg of caster..

10.5 Deg?? And I was worried about tire wear at 5 deg in the Lotus.

Assuming that's correct, wouldn't the car try to follow every grove in the pavement?

Randy Chase · 10-27-2009, 03:47 PM

Yep. Amazing amount of caster. Lee Noble was a genius.

Works great. Does not really tramline.

ADR3 · 10-27-2009, 06:59 PM

Cosmos,

I'll get you the number. Ex-F1 mechanic. People that have used him said he is meticulous.

D

ADR3 · 10-28-2009, 03:48 PM

The shop we have chosen to support the Rossion Q1 in Dallas is Tony Richards. I talked with him today and he has Lotus experience and has been picking up some new customers recently. He also has been doing some Nobles for years.

972 245 5341

10-06-2009, 02:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
pwn Om Nom Professional Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 164	Maintenance and such Just curious, what do you guys do when something breaks? Fix it yourself? Use the CNC machine you happen to have laying around to make another bracket that you can't source or a something or other? I think these cars are awesome, and I see an M400 I could possibly pick up...but I wonder what its going to be like actually owning it and putting some miles on it :s. Whats the general consensus in this area like?

10-06-2009, 02:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
Dragon Hydrocarbons Rule Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Okinawa Japan Posts: 1,742 Images: 2	If it breaks I order parts and fix it myself... __________________ 2006 Exige; BWR Supercharger, Adj Sway Bar, Ohlins Suspension, BSK Oil Catch Can, Moroso Oil Pan, ORC Clutch, Custom Exhaust, Black Volk Racing CE28N's w/ Toyo R1R's, 2 piece rotors, Pagid Blue Pads, BSK Wet Carbon (Side Skirts, Front Lip Spoiler, Gas Cap Cover, Center Console, Door Panels), Dry Carbon rear Diffuser, Harness Bar, BWR Gauge Mount, OMP Superquadro steering wheel, LETSLA Short Shifter, V2arms, Rear Tow Link Brace, RLS Battery Bracket, BOE Tow Bar, Stickers.

10-06-2009, 04:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
def ...ault Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mountain View, CA Posts: 2,607	You can still source parts from Rossion I believe. Dean in Florida could get you mostly everything I think? I'm sure it gets crazy pricey with these cars quickly though I thought lotus clamshells were expensive at a few $K a pop, plus paint plus install, but then I saw this: Where to Get Rear Clamshell - Noble Rossion Forums £3500 in the UK - unpainted. That's $5,500 give or take. Don't forget shipping to the US, and clear-bra. Sounds like a decent amount of work to replace a clam too (similar to the lotus)? For Maintenence/repairs, if you can't do it, I'm sure Hoover at Turbohoses in Livermore could __________________ //kevin - 05 Graphite Gray - Red Touring / LSS / Starshield / Stage 2 + more SOLD Last edited by def : 10-06-2009 at 05:00 PM.

10-07-2009, 08:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
Bgwilly31 Twisties Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cincy, OH Posts: 1,880	The rossion clamshell might be cheaper. __________________ -*White Rossion Q1* 07 white Exige S--Sold 04' Lexus Turbo IS300 BSM "track car"--SOLD "Straight lines dont mean sh"

10-11-2009, 07:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
choi0706 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houston/Austin Posts: 4,224	randy, i was flipping through some cars on my alignment rack and came across the q1.. got any photos of the q1 suspension? I was suprised to see 10.5 deg of caster.. __________________ Jay-05' ST, HT, Touring Red Rally Ready

10-06-2009, 06:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
ADR3 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 81	I had a Noble for 5 years and used an ex-Porsche techician/race shop owner for support. I could always get parts either from 1G/Rossion or from the local Ford dealer. The car uses a lot of standard Ford parts. In Texas there is a Rossion service provider in each major city. There is a shop in Dallas, one in Austin and one in Houston. They can also work on Nobles of course. Any good race shop with some turbo experience can easily support the cars.

10-07-2009, 11:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
pwn Om Nom Professional Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 164	Is there anything on these cars that tend to break? Are suspension parts insanely unique, or are they like the engine using components that are found commonly in other cars? I love the cars and think their performance factor is amazing, I just wonder how its going to go if something breaks. I know that's a stupid thing to even think about if I am considering a noble.

10-27-2009, 03:47 PM	#15 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,174 Images: 761	Yep. Amazing amount of caster. Lee Noble was a genius. Works great. Does not really tramline. __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle.

10-27-2009, 06:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
ADR3 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 81	Cosmos, I'll get you the number. Ex-F1 mechanic. People that have used him said he is meticulous. D

10-28-2009, 03:48 PM	#17 (permalink)
ADR3 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 81	Dallas Support The shop we have chosen to support the Rossion Q1 in Dallas is Tony Richards. I talked with him today and he has Lotus experience and has been picking up some new customers recently. He also has been doing some Nobles for years. 972 245 5341

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