Rossion vs Noble comparison - LotusTalk

Randy Chase · 06-25-2009, 11:38 AM

I think so far, I am the only person to have owned both cars. And more to the point, owns both cars. I am keeping both right now. Why keep the Noble? That is the point of the comparison.

Here are some pics I snapped on completing the 4600 mile road trip in the Rossion, so please excuse the bugs.

Randy Chase · 06-25-2009, 11:40 AM

Both the Noble M400 and the Rossion Q1 will be at Cars and Coffee in Irvine this Saturday June 27th and then at the SoCal Euro Cars Meet at Qualcomm later the same day.

Feel free to stop by and check the cars out.

Randy Chase · 06-25-2009, 11:46 AM

Changes from the Noble M400 to the Rossion Q1.

There are many and this is not the comprehensive list. Just some obvious things.

Interior-
Added Pioneer Sat/NAV with bluetooth, MP3, etc. Relocated to center instead of in front of the passenger.
Added glovebox.
Improved dash gauges, cluster.
Improved HVAC controls
Padding around rollcage.
More leather, alcantara. Improved fit and finish.
Added visors.
Upgraded interior lights
Tilt/telescoping steering wheel
Electric windows

Wheels Went to wider custom forged rims, specifically made for Rossion. Now 5 lug instead of 4.
Changes brakes (AP Racing supplied)
Shocks. Koni or Penske.
Exhaust lighter and dual.
ECU now from FORD and relocated to cockpit area.
Added carbon fiber duct work to increase air flow.
Improved intercooler air

Improved paint

Randy Chase · 06-25-2009, 11:49 AM

The goal as I see it, with the Q1 was to expand the market. The Noble, though a very nicely finished car in my opinion, was pointed still more to the guy who wants a streetable track car and not much more.

The Q1, at $100k, needed to meet the expectations of the higher end buyer for a street car, so they added the Sat Nav system, electric windows, etc.

Does the Q1 meet the goal? I think it just about nails it. There are a couple minor details that I know the factory is working on. But everyone that sees the car agrees that the fit and finish are amazing. Paint quality is amazing. And it looks like a supercar.

Did they meet the target? Well... there is a waiting list to get the car.

Sweet Adrenaline · 06-25-2009, 11:54 AM

Both cars are absolutely amazing!

In my opinion anyone that is lucky enough to own both cars like the Rossion and the Noble should hold on to both ~ if they can... And then maybe give them each a special function ...use the Rossion as a car for "blats" and use the Noble for racing. ??

And out of curiousity...where can one find a Rossion? I can't say I see too many of them around town... ~ it is quite a looker!

Sweet Adrenaline · 06-25-2009, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Chase

Both the Noble M400 and the Rossion Q1 will be at Cars and Coffee in Irvine this Saturday June 27th and then at the SoCal Euro Cars Meet at Qualcomm later the same day.

Feel free to stop by and check the cars out.

SWEET!

knucklehead · 06-25-2009, 12:19 PM

The Rossion Q1 looks more refined and yet meaner at the same time. Both are very cool cars.

Can't wait to drive them

Moto44 · 06-25-2009, 12:20 PM

Great car, to be sure!!!

My only gripe is that they have become so common.
I can't leave the house without being surrounded by them.

slaughtr · 06-25-2009, 01:13 PM

Obviously Randy has more experience that I, but I will say I drove a slightly used Noble before buying my Rossion. The main changes are the exterior styling is superior and the interior is in a different league. If I wanted a pure track car, I probably would have purchased the used Noble. Brutally, brutally fast. My Rossion is so nice, I kind of want to keep it off the track for the time being and let my Lotus handle all those duties.

Randy Chase · 06-25-2009, 01:19 PM

And you kind of answered the question, why I now own both.

The Noble is a great track weapon. I have over 20,000 miles on it. I have done some track mods and remapped the ECU. It has more power and is a little lighter and I can put wider tires on it (since I modified the car for that purpose).

The Rossion Q1 is a great street car. Comfortable. I synced up my Iphone with the head unit and can make and receive calls using hands free and bluetooth. Plus it takes voice commands.

Cars that are very alike, but yet different.

06-25-2009, 11:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,175 Images: 761	Rossion vs Noble comparison I think so far, I am the only person to have owned both cars. And more to the point, owns both cars. I am keeping both right now. Why keep the Noble? That is the point of the comparison. Here are some pics I snapped on completing the 4600 mile road trip in the Rossion, so please excuse the bugs. Attached Images __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle.

06-25-2009, 11:40 AM	#2 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,175 Images: 761	Both the Noble M400 and the Rossion Q1 will be at Cars and Coffee in Irvine this Saturday June 27th and then at the SoCal Euro Cars Meet at Qualcomm later the same day. Feel free to stop by and check the cars out. __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle.

06-25-2009, 11:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,175 Images: 761	Changes from the Noble M400 to the Rossion Q1. There are many and this is not the comprehensive list. Just some obvious things. Interior- Added Pioneer Sat/NAV with bluetooth, MP3, etc. Relocated to center instead of in front of the passenger. Added glovebox. Improved dash gauges, cluster. Improved HVAC controls Padding around rollcage. More leather, alcantara. Improved fit and finish. Added visors. Upgraded interior lights Tilt/telescoping steering wheel Electric windows Wheels Went to wider custom forged rims, specifically made for Rossion. Now 5 lug instead of 4. Changes brakes (AP Racing supplied) Shocks. Koni or Penske. Exhaust lighter and dual. ECU now from FORD and relocated to cockpit area. Added carbon fiber duct work to increase air flow. Improved intercooler air Improved paint __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle.

06-25-2009, 11:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,175 Images: 761	The goal as I see it, with the Q1 was to expand the market. The Noble, though a very nicely finished car in my opinion, was pointed still more to the guy who wants a streetable track car and not much more. The Q1, at $100k, needed to meet the expectations of the higher end buyer for a street car, so they added the Sat Nav system, electric windows, etc. Does the Q1 meet the goal? I think it just about nails it. There are a couple minor details that I know the factory is working on. But everyone that sees the car agrees that the fit and finish are amazing. Paint quality is amazing. And it looks like a supercar. Did they meet the target? Well... there is a waiting list to get the car. __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle.

06-25-2009, 11:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
Sweet Adrenaline Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 313	The Noble & The Rossion Both cars are absolutely amazing! In my opinion anyone that is lucky enough to own both cars like the Rossion and the Noble should hold on to both ~ if they can... And then maybe give them each a special function ...use the Rossion as a car for "blats" and use the Noble for racing. ?? And out of curiousity...where can one find a Rossion? I can't say I see too many of them around town... ~ it is quite a looker! __________________ There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women. Chief among these is the Noble M400.

06-25-2009, 12:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
knucklehead TWRD & Blip advertising Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Marina del Rey, CA Posts: 3,838	The Rossion Q1 looks more refined and yet meaner at the same time. Both are very cool cars. Can't wait to drive them __________________ Jacob Join Lotuscar.ning.com for LA Lotus social events 05 Exise, 2bular 6 inch exhaust. BWR double adjustable Penske shocks, Hypercoil springs, HIDs, BWR front sway bar, Light weight PC680 battery w/BWR brace, BWR Black badges and wheel centers, Custom SCC paint job, SCC OEM Exige mesh kit and Exige rear clam details, LSD, Lotus sport clutch and light weight fly wheel. Sector front splitter. Stebel horn. Multivex Mirrors. Volk CE28 wheels

06-25-2009, 12:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
Moto44 Back in the Saddle Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,800	Great car, to be sure!!! My only gripe is that they have become so common. I can't leave the house without being surrounded by them. Attached Images __________________ If nobody ever died doing it, how much fun could it be?

06-25-2009, 01:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
slaughtr Big head man Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 5,953 Images: 3	Obviously Randy has more experience that I, but I will say I drove a slightly used Noble before buying my Rossion. The main changes are the exterior styling is superior and the interior is in a different league. If I wanted a pure track car, I probably would have purchased the used Noble. Brutally, brutally fast. My Rossion is so nice, I kind of want to keep it off the track for the time being and let my Lotus handle all those duties. __________________ My car both sucks and blows. Now with added all natural smoky goodness!

06-25-2009, 01:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,175 Images: 761	And you kind of answered the question, why I now own both. The Noble is a great track weapon. I have over 20,000 miles on it. I have done some track mods and remapped the ECU. It has more power and is a little lighter and I can put wider tires on it (since I modified the car for that purpose). The Rossion Q1 is a great street car. Comfortable. I synced up my Iphone with the head unit and can make and receive calls using hands free and bluetooth. Plus it takes voice commands. Cars that are very alike, but yet different. __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle.

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