$15K power challenge - Page 9 - LotusTalk

Buz · 02-12-2007, 10:31 AM

Is the before dyno about what a stock 2zz with stock ecu would make on that dyno?

LittleRocket · 02-12-2007, 10:35 AM

It is the same dyno that Jay uses. I have hit it with a few 2zz with stock ecus. 165 whp is about stock level.

This is his car during his pulley tests.
http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/atta...1&d=1167889646

choi0706 · 02-12-2007, 11:28 AM

I need tuning!

Bruce · 02-12-2007, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by choi0706

I need tuning!

That green wiring will clash with your pretty blue pulleys.

choi0706 · 02-12-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce

That green wiring will clash with your pretty blue pulleys.

, nobody can see the green wires..

Boosted2.0 · 02-15-2007, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce

It would be interesting to see what he could do with the stock motor and PFC.

You're in houston - how badly do you want to find out

Bruce · 02-15-2007, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted2.0

You're in houston - how badly do you want to find out

If you can do it without cutting my harness. But I have a stock intake and a Stage 1 exhaust, so I don't know how much Lotus left on the table. Can you tune that PFC for a Greddy S/C or FF275 kit? That I would be interested in. Long term though I rather stay OBDII compliant for emissions testing.

choi0706 · 02-15-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce

If you can do it without cutting my harness. But I have a stock intake and a Stage 1 exhaust, so I don't know how much Lotus left on the table. Can you tune that PFC for a Greddy S/C or FF275 kit? That I would be interested in. Long term though I rather stay OBDII compliant for emissions testing.

The powerfc should be able to tune for f/i as many celica/mr2 owners have..

Boosted2.0 · 02-15-2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce

If you can do it without cutting my harness. But I have a stock intake and a Stage 1 exhaust, so I don't know how much Lotus left on the table. Can you tune that PFC for a Greddy S/C or FF275 kit? That I would be interested in. Long term though I rather stay OBDII compliant for emissions testing.

We need a source for the connectors before we can do this without modifying the harness.

Yes I can tune for FI - I have tuned quite a few turbo Celicas with Power FC. Above a certain power level you will need to go to a 3" charge pipe or the MAF maxes though, and above that you will need an STI MAF

Beanie · 02-16-2007, 06:02 AM

Have you guys thought of buying connectors for each row of pins and putting them together? The spacing between pins would be all you'd really have to worry about.

Boosted2.0 · 02-16-2007, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Beanie

Have you guys thought of buying connectors for each row of pins and putting them together? The spacing between pins would be all you'd really have to worry about.

The ECU is in the engine bay - you have to use weatherpack connectors, which means you have to use the factor connectors.

Beanie · 02-16-2007, 10:35 AM

Yeah, I know where it is. I was under the impression that you couldn't buy those connectors. I was thinking that the pin pattern could be gotten around by 3 separate single row connectors. You could have the outside part of the connector made by one of those prototyping places and insert the three single row rectangular pieces in it. It could be done in such a way that it would be secure and not exposed to the elements. But if you have a source for them, the point is moot.

Boosted2.0 · 02-16-2007, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Beanie

Yeah, I know where it is. I was under the impression that you couldn't buy those connectors. I was thinking that the pin pattern could be gotten around by 3 separate single row connectors. You could have the outside part of the connector made by one of those prototyping places and insert the three single row rectangular pieces in it. It could be done in such a way that it would be secure and not exposed to the elements. But if you have a source for them, the point is moot.

Forcedfed and Hydra got the from somewhere so you can get them, its just a matter of price and quantity I suspect

The Buzzman · 03-04-2007, 06:41 PM

I could use a little help from anyone, on how to attach pic's of my dyno in the $15K power challenge.

I like what I've done, and my friends Toyota, with the same 2ZZ, has the same ZEX for almost a year, now, with no-problems at all. The computer seems to do what it needs to do, to keep it safe and smooth running.

The Buzzman · 03-04-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SweetDaddyD

75 HP Nitrous kit, leave everything else alone. Spend remaining $14K on something else, like adding power by adding lightness. Maybe a lighter wheel tire combo, and lighter brakes- aluminum belled or carbon kevlar.

I think the Venom kit has a mode that is more progressive than the traditional harsh power on of most Nitrous kits.

I did the dirty deed and added the Zex nitro kit. It is awsome. My friend has had the same kit in his Toyota with the same 2ZZ engine, for almost one year, with no problems and smooth running. He runs 100 shot, but wee really don't need that, as we now blow him away too.

I will run Moroso for real numbers in the quarter, later in the next few weeks. The car sticks like glue, even when you blast it on, in a turn. No need for any fancy stuff either. It just runs straight out and smooth, without bleeding out the lines, which are 15' long. It just goes !!!

The kit cost $500 and a tank guage was $45, plus a blow down tube to make it track legal, $33. We don't need the blanket either, after a twenty minute ride, as the trunk heats up just fine. I ran my dyno cold, without any warm up in the trunk. It might be a little higher in hp.

Boosted2.0 · 03-07-2007, 11:49 AM

Nitrous is great and yes the Zex wet kits have been used with great success on the celica as well.

That being said, nitrous is not a good sustainable power adder for someone that road races like the thread originator.

Buz · 03-07-2007, 12:17 PM

What is the latest on the Sleepless NA car? Is it going to be stock displacement or larger and how?

sleepless · 03-07-2007, 01:16 PM

Stock displacement.

008 · 03-07-2007, 02:13 PM

when is it going to be done? Any new dynos?

sleepless · 03-07-2007, 04:48 PM

Details are buried somewhere in this thread but the summary goes something like this:

- Built NA motor; rev limit raised 1000RPm, higher compression ratio, pistsons, cams, etc.
- Lots porting and coatings and other fine tweaks
- custom exhaust
- Custom tuned PFC
- LSD

Target wheel HP is 230+

02-12-2007, 10:35 AM	#162 (permalink)
LittleRocket Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 189	It is the same dyno that Jay uses. I have hit it with a few 2zz with stock ecus. 165 whp is about stock level. This is his car during his pulley tests. http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/atta...1&d=1167889646 __________________ Built 2zz powered, 6 speed-lsd mr2 spyder Last edited by LittleRocket : 02-12-2007 at 11:10 AM.

02-12-2007, 11:28 AM	#163 (permalink)
choi0706 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houston/Austin Posts: 4,206	I need tuning! __________________ Jay-05' ST, HT, Touring Red Rally Ready

02-16-2007, 06:02 AM	#170 (permalink)
Beanie untitled Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 2,910	Have you guys thought of buying connectors for each row of pins and putting them together? The spacing between pins would be all you'd really have to worry about. __________________ It is all about "Other".

02-16-2007, 10:35 AM	#172 (permalink)
Beanie untitled Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 2,910	Yeah, I know where it is. I was under the impression that you couldn't buy those connectors. I was thinking that the pin pattern could be gotten around by 3 separate single row connectors. You could have the outside part of the connector made by one of those prototyping places and insert the three single row rectangular pieces in it. It could be done in such a way that it would be secure and not exposed to the elements. But if you have a source for them, the point is moot. __________________ It is all about "Other". Last edited by Beanie : 02-16-2007 at 01:35 PM.

03-04-2007, 06:41 PM	#174 (permalink)
The Buzzman James*BuzzmanNitroBlaster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Palm Beach County, South Florida Posts: 53	I could use a little help from anyone, on how to attach pic's of my dyno in the $15K power challenge. I like what I've done, and my friends Toyota, with the same 2ZZ, has the same ZEX for almost a year, now, with no-problems at all. The computer seems to do what it needs to do, to keep it safe and smooth running. __________________ 2004/2005 Elise, Sport pkg., Red Lux. pkg., hard top, Exige silver wheels, 175 whp with a TurboXS Intake, and now a Zex Wet 75, Of You Know What!.........Gives Me 229whp and 185 torque to the wheels, with no heat blankets or special anything needed. It lasts a long time with the 75 shot and two or three gears needed here and there. Fuel Air Mix starts around 15 and drops to the 12's all the way to 8200 rpm's...nice and safe. No lag, no bogg, just instant take-off!

02-12-2007, 10:31 AM	#161 (permalink)
Buz Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,920	Is the before dyno about what a stock 2zz with stock ecu would make on that dyno?

03-07-2007, 11:49 AM	#176 (permalink)
Boosted2.0 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 764	Nitrous is great and yes the Zex wet kits have been used with great success on the celica as well. That being said, nitrous is not a good sustainable power adder for someone that road races like the thread originator.

03-07-2007, 12:17 PM	#177 (permalink)
Buz Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,920	What is the latest on the Sleepless NA car? Is it going to be stock displacement or larger and how?

03-07-2007, 01:16 PM	#178 (permalink)
sleepless Elise Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,222	Stock displacement. __________________ Pete 05 Lotus Elise \| 06 Porsche Boxster S \| 97 Porsche Turbo

03-07-2007, 02:13 PM	#179 (permalink)
008 Sexual Philanthropist Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,170	when is it going to be done? Any new dynos? __________________ Sold: Ardent Red, LSS, Touring, Hard Top 08 Cayman S Black, floormats

03-07-2007, 04:48 PM	#180 (permalink)
sleepless Elise Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,222	Details are buried somewhere in this thread but the summary goes something like this: - Built NA motor; rev limit raised 1000RPm, higher compression ratio, pistsons, cams, etc. - Lots porting and coatings and other fine tweaks - custom exhaust - Custom tuned PFC - LSD Target wheel HP is 230+ __________________ Pete 05 Lotus Elise \| 06 Porsche Boxster S \| 97 Porsche Turbo

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