2zz engine/transaxle/supercharged k20 swap - Page 4 - LotusTalk

Greg · 06-27-2007, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by alexandertg4

For the smog gurus out there. How could you make this bad boy pass smog in CA?

As long as the engine is the same year model or newer and certified for sale in the US, and all the original smog equipment is attached (cat o2 sensor), and it passes smog. There is no problem. Orignal purchasers from new have 4 years before they have to take a smog test in CA.

'Greg

aerosim · 06-27-2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by exigeme

Bleu, have fun on the 4th tracking your car. Not much two person work going on because I am in the design/ fab stage. Currently I am working on locating the exact position where the supercharger will mount and that will determine the shape of the intake manifold. I am hoping to have a template completed by the end of this weekend for the intake. I dint own a metal brake so I have to have it formed then come home a tig for hours on end. It looks like
TNT shipping has lost my dry sump so more delays there. This waiting kills me..

I wish I had seen this thread earlier. A friend of mine owns Hi-Tech exhaust. He's building a K20 for my Elise and has a bolt-on dry sump with the passages and pump integrated into the pan. Really nice and compact. He also makes some of the nicest headers I've ever seen and I've seen a lot of headers.

Anyway, good luck on your swap and if you need any help header-wise or with any other K20 parts, let me know.

Lotus-Position · 06-27-2007, 05:25 PM

Is that an NA K20 he is building for you? I'd be interested in the details of the build including estimated cost and time. As the miles stack up on my Elise, I'm starting to consider engine replacement options. I like the idea of a built NA K20.

Lotus-Position · 06-27-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleu Omdurman

Just give me a call when you need a fix. I need to check out my brakes before my next track day on the 4th anyway.

Tonight is good but my schedule is packed from tomorrow until Tuesday.

Hey Bleu... Where are you tracking on the 4th?

BTW: Never heard anyone refer to a 2zz as "asian plaything", but to each his own

. Why are you taking it to the airport???

aerosim · 06-27-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus-Position

Is that an NA K20 he is building for you? I'd be interested in the details of the build including estimated cost and time. As the miles stack up on my Elise, I'm starting to consider engine replacement options. I like the idea of a built NA K20.

I haven't made up my mind yet. It's either this 2.3L N/A motor ...

http://www.rsx-tuners.com/products.p...=2-3_liter_kit

or a supercharged motor with around 400HP at the crank. The N/A motor is good for around 300HP at the wheels, so it's not like it would be slow or anything.

I'm not sure what the cost is, since I'm doing some engineering work for him in exchange, but you can contact John at (949) 581-2181. RSX Tuners is part of Hi-Tech Exhaust. I was there yesterday and they must have had at least 4 or 5 K20s in the shop and they just finished an exhaust (header to tip) for an MR2 with a K20. If you talk to him, tell him I told you to call and ask for some pics of that exhaust.

-Steve

Lotus-Position · 06-27-2007, 05:44 PM

Thanks, I'll give them a call. 300hp would be huge for this car given it only has about 167WHP stock.

Bleu Omdurman · 06-27-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus-Position

Hey Bleu... Where are you tracking on the 4th?

BTW: Never heard anyone refer to a 2zz as "asian plaything", but to each his own

. Why are you taking it to the airport???

ha ha, I am talking about the little woman that rides shot gun. Not the engine.

One is a toy, the other is dangerous

I'll be doing the 1/2 day at Pacific Raceways. You doing the 12th at PIR? I'm planning on that one too.

exigeme · 06-28-2007, 11:44 AM

Aerosim, any pictures of your dry sup setup? My dry sump should be here soon and shortly after will be installed but I would like to know how yours turned out.

Lotus-Position · 06-29-2007, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bleu Omdurman

One is a toy, the other is dangerous

I'll be doing the 1/2 day at Pacific Raceways. You doing the 12th at PIR? I'm planning on that one too.

So, is that July 4th at PR?? I don't see anything on their schedule. Looking into PIR as well.

exigeme · 07-01-2007, 01:51 PM

Deep into the waiting game but have finalized a location for the supercharger and how I can make it work with the intake and the discharge port. The engine location looks good and the air conditioning is intact. The intake manifold is extremely difficult to build because of the space constraints and very little substantial mounting locations to support the heavy supercharger. This means the intake manifold needs to support some of the weight of the supercharger along with other supports. I am waiting on a nose drive and now have not been able to find a 5" seven rib pulley for the autorotor supercharger. Name: 100-0004_IMG.JPG
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aerosim · 07-01-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by exigeme

Aerosim, any pictures of your dry sup setup? My dry sump should be here soon and shortly after will be installed but I would like to know how yours
turned out.

I'll see if I can get some pics from the guys who make them. I'm still quite a way away from getting my pile of parts together.

-Steve

exigeme · 07-05-2007, 05:13 PM

It finally arrived...just some pics to look at.

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jim-clayton · 07-05-2007, 05:23 PM

Oh ya looks real good.

Bleu Omdurman · 07-05-2007, 05:24 PM

Very nice

aerosim · 07-08-2007, 02:49 AM

Nice. Glad it turned up. I asked my friend for some pics of his dry sump, but he hasn't gotten the first ones done yet. Doh ... thought it was further along.

Anyway, keep the pics coming.

-Steve

Westrock · 07-08-2007, 07:23 AM

Wow, very trick looking. How does the oil actually get into the pickup? Is there a hole on the bottom of those tubes, or do those come out?

exigeme · 07-09-2007, 10:21 AM

The dry sump scavenges through cutouts in the pickup tubes, the setup is pretty cool. I need to get more hoses, a tank and locate where the oil filter will mount. I bought a scale that should be arriving this week to weigh the 2zz and the k20. I am hoping to shave some weight rather than gain but have no idea at this point what either engine weighs. Being that the supercharger weighs almost 30 lbs it is going to be a real challenge. The clutch should be arriving this week and hopefully the nose drive for the supercharger also.

Bleu Omdurman · 07-09-2007, 06:07 PM

Very nice.

codymac · 07-09-2007, 06:26 PM

I've been biting my tongue but just have to go ahead and say it...
You should have ordered two: one for the car, the other to hang on the wall!

Looks like a choice bit of kit!

exigeme · 07-11-2007, 09:42 PM

Today the scale arrived and being that it is 100 degrees in the garage I did not get much done.....but I did manage to weigh the 2zz complete with the trans-axle and it tipped the scale at 386 lbs. I did the same with the Honda but being that it is not completely assembled it was lighter than the Toyota at 362 lbs with my 30 lb supercharger. My best guess is that the stock motor is about 20 lbs less than the Toyota. I think when I am through with everything I should be around the same weight as it was stock, but plan to re-weigh the Honda when it is completely done. I took a picture but the flash made reading the scale unreadable.

06-28-2007, 11:44 AM	#68 (permalink)
exigeme Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lake Tapps Posts: 141	Aerosim, any pictures of your dry sup setup? My dry sump should be here soon and shortly after will be installed but I would like to know how yours turned out. Last edited by exigeme : 07-19-2007 at 07:13 PM.

07-01-2007, 01:51 PM	#70 (permalink)
exigeme Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lake Tapps Posts: 141	Deep into the waiting game but have finalized a location for the supercharger and how I can make it work with the intake and the discharge port. The engine location looks good and the air conditioning is intact. The intake manifold is extremely difficult to build because of the space constraints and very little substantial mounting locations to support the heavy supercharger. This means the intake manifold needs to support some of the weight of the supercharger along with other supports. I am waiting on a nose drive and now have not been able to find a 5" seven rib pulley for the autorotor supercharger. Last edited by exigeme : 07-19-2007 at 07:14 PM.

07-05-2007, 05:13 PM	#72 (permalink)
exigeme Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lake Tapps Posts: 141	Dry sump pictures It finally arrived...just some pics to look at.

07-05-2007, 05:24 PM	#74 (permalink)
Bleu Omdurman More track time please. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,692	Very nice __________________ Take my track day survey: here You should enjoy it. 10 questions. Now take survey #2 here Mods: TurboXS Intake, Ultra Disc Rotors, Adare Motorsports Racing Pads.

07-08-2007, 07:23 AM	#76 (permalink)
Westrock Haxord but mine Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 1,340	Wow, very trick looking. How does the oil actually get into the pickup? Is there a hole on the bottom of those tubes, or do those come out? __________________ -David 2006 Storm Ti Exige + VF Stage 2 Vision Function Supercharger Install Thread Stereo Harness Info \| Exige with no wing??

06-27-2007, 05:25 PM	#63 (permalink)
Lotus-Position Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 365	Is that an NA K20 he is building for you? I'd be interested in the details of the build including estimated cost and time. As the miles stack up on my Elise, I'm starting to consider engine replacement options. I like the idea of a built NA K20.

06-27-2007, 05:44 PM	#66 (permalink)
Lotus-Position Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 365	Thanks, I'll give them a call. 300hp would be huge for this car given it only has about 167WHP stock.

07-05-2007, 05:23 PM	#73 (permalink)
jim-clayton Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Lauderdale Florida Posts: 1,634	Oh ya looks real good.

07-08-2007, 02:49 AM	#75 (permalink)
aerosim Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 116	Nice. Glad it turned up. I asked my friend for some pics of his dry sump, but he hasn't gotten the first ones done yet. Doh ... thought it was further along. Anyway, keep the pics coming. -Steve

07-09-2007, 10:21 AM	#77 (permalink)
exigeme Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lake Tapps Posts: 141	The dry sump scavenges through cutouts in the pickup tubes, the setup is pretty cool. I need to get more hoses, a tank and locate where the oil filter will mount. I bought a scale that should be arriving this week to weigh the 2zz and the k20. I am hoping to shave some weight rather than gain but have no idea at this point what either engine weighs. Being that the supercharger weighs almost 30 lbs it is going to be a real challenge. The clutch should be arriving this week and hopefully the nose drive for the supercharger also. Last edited by exigeme : 07-19-2007 at 07:15 PM.

07-09-2007, 06:07 PM	#78 (permalink)
Bleu Omdurman More track time please. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,692	Very nice. __________________ Take my track day survey: here You should enjoy it. 10 questions. Now take survey #2 here Mods: TurboXS Intake, Ultra Disc Rotors, Adare Motorsports Racing Pads.

07-09-2007, 06:26 PM	#79 (permalink)
codymac short angry bloke Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: where the east tapers out and the west begins Posts: 9,260 Images: 19	I've been biting my tongue but just have to go ahead and say it... You should have ordered two: one for the car, the other to hang on the wall! Looks like a choice bit of kit! __________________ torque (tôrk) n. - an excuse for the lack of momentum. - let's bring back CanAm & Group B! - have you hugged your Exige today? I'm currently working on my performance driving merit badge. There's always somebody faster, sometimes it's me.

07-11-2007, 09:42 PM	#80 (permalink)
exigeme Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lake Tapps Posts: 141	My fancy scale Today the scale arrived and being that it is 100 degrees in the garage I did not get much done.....but I did manage to weigh the 2zz complete with the trans-axle and it tipped the scale at 386 lbs. I did the same with the Honda but being that it is not completely assembled it was lighter than the Toyota at 362 lbs with my 30 lb supercharger. My best guess is that the stock motor is about 20 lbs less than the Toyota. I think when I am through with everything I should be around the same weight as it was stock, but plan to re-weigh the Honda when it is completely done. I took a picture but the flash made reading the scale unreadable. Last edited by exigeme : 07-19-2007 at 07:15 PM.

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