Buying a new clutch-what do I need? - LotusTalk

Surferjer · 10-29-2009, 09:50 AM

I have decided on an ACT clutch beased on everyone's feedback in various threads. BUT...

Do I need a whole kit for $400 or can I get just the clutch plate for $100? I don't want ot short-change the job, I just don't understand what I need to get, my first clutch job. I hope to pull the tranny out this weekend if I'm brave enough. I figured I might as well replace the clutch too.

fpitas · 10-29-2009, 10:02 AM

Jerry,

If you're replacing a worn-out clutch, I recommend getting a complete kit, with a new throwout bearing etc. The best price I found online was here:

ACT Toyota Celica Racing Clutch Kit - FREE Shipping

Surferjer · 10-29-2009, 10:22 AM

I don't know that the clutch is worn out, but was told if I'm changing the transmission I should replace the clutch while I'm in there. The car has 37,000 miles on it and lots of hard launches from pro Solos for two seasons.

fpitas · 10-29-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Surferjer

I don't know that the clutch is worn out, but was told if I'm changing the transmission I should replace the clutch while I'm in there. The car has 37,000 miles on it and lots of hard launches from pro Solos for two seasons.

Sounds like a judgment call then. The throwout bearing probably has some good miles left. If it were me I'd replace everything, just because getting back in there is kind of a pain.

Chococar · 10-29-2009, 08:53 PM

While it's easy, I suggest you install a light-weight flywheel and use new ARP bolts, torqued to their spec.

Seb · 10-29-2009, 08:54 PM

Fidanza flywheel with an ACT clutch kit. Make sure you get the full face disc and not a puck disc.

carl · 10-29-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chococar

While it's easy, I suggest you install a light-weight flywheel and use new ARP bolts, torqued to their spec.

"Easy" did i miss something ?? i was there helping. carl

Surferjer · 10-30-2009, 05:01 AM

I think what he is saying is that since it will all be apart, that's the time to do the flywheel.

carl · 10-30-2009, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surferjer

I think what he is saying is that since it will all be apart, that's the time to do the flywheel.

I love Joe we work together every week on his major lotus project. I always kid him about being the eternal optimist. He could give you the upside of a nuclear blast. " Carl think of all the money you'll save on heat"..carl

fzust · 10-30-2009, 09:38 AM

Yep, lightweight flywheel and ACT HD etc.

Surferjer · 10-30-2009, 02:50 PM

Any linkies on a fidanza flywheel? There are a couple varieties, I won't spend too much on it because frankly, I'm not worried about getting every last advantage, I just drive her to work these days. I already separately ordered the ACT HD clutch kit. Thanks!!

Seb · 10-30-2009, 06:28 PM

Fidanza 130231 Aluminum Lightweight Flywheel Toyota 1.8L 2ZZ Engine

This is just one site. I'm sure you could find many more.

Here are the ARP's mentioned (I think overkill)

MWR ARP Bolt Set - Toyota 1zz/2zz Flywheel - MWR-108008 van ARP - Monkeywrench Racing - Celica -

The beauty of the Fidanza, is if you ever wear it out or screw up the friction surface, you can just replace the surface.

Chococar · 10-30-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chococar

While it's easy, I suggest you install a light-weight flywheel and use new ARP bolts, torqued to their spec.

"While it's easy" means since you have dropped the transmission to replace the clutch, it's a simple matter to replace the flywheel. Dropping the transmission, on the other hand, ... is not "easy".

Thanks,

Joe

Surferjer · 11-02-2009, 06:37 AM

Got stuff ordered, thanks. After changing the clutch in my girlfriend's Altima yesterday (another transaxle, same sort of project) I'm feeling much braver to tackle the Elise. I will start later this week.

10-29-2009, 09:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
Surferjer No more cone damage! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exton, PA Posts: 8,887	Buying a new clutch-what do I need? I have decided on an ACT clutch beased on everyone's feedback in various threads. BUT... Do I need a whole kit for $400 or can I get just the clutch plate for $100? I don't want ot short-change the job, I just don't understand what I need to get, my first clutch job. I hope to pull the tranny out this weekend if I'm brave enough. I figured I might as well replace the clutch too. __________________ Jer-2005 Elise (retired from autox) 1993 MR2 autox car 2002 Ford Excursion DIESEL 4 X 4 1993 Miata (throwout bearing or clutch failure) 1987 Toyota Corolla FX16 Lemons car (needs new head) 1984 Chevy Citation Lemons car (needs a motor)

10-29-2009, 10:02 AM	#2 (permalink)
fpitas User, Registered Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 1,833	Jerry, If you're replacing a worn-out clutch, I recommend getting a complete kit, with a new throwout bearing etc. The best price I found online was here: ACT Toyota Celica Racing Clutch Kit - FREE Shipping __________________ Francis 2006 Chrome Orange Elise: LSD/TC, Nitron SAs with 425/650 springs, BWR 7/8" Front Bar, Eliseparts bumpsteer kit, VF Stage 2, 2bular Header + Sport Cat + 8x24 GT3 Muffler, ECU Tune by Jermaine, Smaay's fuel rail, ACT XT clutch, Saikou Michi dual catch can, Moroso pan, Manly's mount inserts & FF Engine Damper 2000 Black Integra Type R: - 213,000 miles...running again!

10-29-2009, 10:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
Surferjer No more cone damage! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exton, PA Posts: 8,887	I don't know that the clutch is worn out, but was told if I'm changing the transmission I should replace the clutch while I'm in there. The car has 37,000 miles on it and lots of hard launches from pro Solos for two seasons. __________________ Jer-2005 Elise (retired from autox) 1993 MR2 autox car 2002 Ford Excursion DIESEL 4 X 4 1993 Miata (throwout bearing or clutch failure) 1987 Toyota Corolla FX16 Lemons car (needs new head) 1984 Chevy Citation Lemons car (needs a motor) Last edited by Surferjer : 10-29-2009 at 10:28 AM.

10-30-2009, 05:01 AM	#8 (permalink)
Surferjer No more cone damage! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exton, PA Posts: 8,887	I think what he is saying is that since it will all be apart, that's the time to do the flywheel. __________________ Jer-2005 Elise (retired from autox) 1993 MR2 autox car 2002 Ford Excursion DIESEL 4 X 4 1993 Miata (throwout bearing or clutch failure) 1987 Toyota Corolla FX16 Lemons car (needs new head) 1984 Chevy Citation Lemons car (needs a motor)

10-30-2009, 09:38 AM	#10 (permalink)
fzust 2009 XP National Champion Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 1,538	Yep, lightweight flywheel and ACT HD etc. __________________ 2008,2009 X Prepared Solo National Champion

10-29-2009, 08:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
Chococar #334 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 1,547	While it's easy, I suggest you install a light-weight flywheel and use new ARP bolts, torqued to their spec.

10-29-2009, 08:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
Seb <3 QR25DE Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 754	Fidanza flywheel with an ACT clutch kit. Make sure you get the full face disc and not a puck disc.

10-30-2009, 02:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
Surferjer No more cone damage! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exton, PA Posts: 8,887	Any linkies on a fidanza flywheel? There are a couple varieties, I won't spend too much on it because frankly, I'm not worried about getting every last advantage, I just drive her to work these days. I already separately ordered the ACT HD clutch kit. Thanks!! __________________ Jer-2005 Elise (retired from autox) 1993 MR2 autox car 2002 Ford Excursion DIESEL 4 X 4 1993 Miata (throwout bearing or clutch failure) 1987 Toyota Corolla FX16 Lemons car (needs new head) 1984 Chevy Citation Lemons car (needs a motor)

10-30-2009, 06:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
Seb <3 QR25DE Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 754	Fidanza 130231 Aluminum Lightweight Flywheel Toyota 1.8L 2ZZ Engine This is just one site. I'm sure you could find many more. Here are the ARP's mentioned (I think overkill) MWR ARP Bolt Set - Toyota 1zz/2zz Flywheel - MWR-108008 van ARP - Monkeywrench Racing - Celica - The beauty of the Fidanza, is if you ever wear it out or screw up the friction surface, you can just replace the surface.

11-02-2009, 06:37 AM	#14 (permalink)
Surferjer No more cone damage! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exton, PA Posts: 8,887	Got stuff ordered, thanks. After changing the clutch in my girlfriend's Altima yesterday (another transaxle, same sort of project) I'm feeling much braver to tackle the Elise. I will start later this week. __________________ Jer-2005 Elise (retired from autox) 1993 MR2 autox car 2002 Ford Excursion DIESEL 4 X 4 1993 Miata (throwout bearing or clutch failure) 1987 Toyota Corolla FX16 Lemons car (needs new head) 1984 Chevy Citation Lemons car (needs a motor)

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