CRATE MOTOR GROUP BUY! - LotusTalk

willhogan · 07-05-2008, 12:57 PM

Anybody with me? Motor number 3... First lasted 9,000 miles, second lasted 800 miles...

I'm going broke over here. Where can I get a cheap crate motor? I don't care to buy used. Might buy rebuilt from MWR.

Cheapest I can find is about $6,700.00 anybody have a better price?

Injectors are going out to get flow tested. First motor cylinder #1 lost compression after a BWR install (lasted under 2,000 miles).

Second motor lasted 800 miles when I broke a valve, also cylinder #1. This time a Charlie X tune.

Either the machine shop that did my head did a **** job or I've got a problem elsewhere.

I'm thinking a fuel delivery issue with #1. Running hot maybe from a bad injector.

Any other ideas?

Somebody sell me a motor....

qball · 07-05-2008, 01:01 PM

WTF? That's really weird.

Something's not right with

a) the way you drive the car
b) the car
c) the alignment of the planets

charliex · 07-05-2008, 01:08 PM

we're thinking maybe its injector related, if the initial rebuild was ok.

Bgwilly31 · 07-05-2008, 01:09 PM

exige S charlie Tune? Whats charlie say?

charliex · 07-05-2008, 01:14 PM

Well the same cylinder/valve that went last time has apparently gone on the first drive after i sent up a new ecu, so its either not been fixed correctly in the first place, or whatever caused it initially it is still there, since as far as we know so far its the same issue.

this is the primary reason i'm really uncomfortable replacing the BWR tune on cars with existing problems, i may not do any more until we've dynod the kit ourselves. (at the very least getting verifiable compression tests)

the other cars i changed out or are using a katana ecu are running fine, except for the DBW error codes on the 06 katana that i haven't released the latest flash for, one has been running around for quite a while now.

VBCARGUY · 07-05-2008, 01:21 PM

They where selling remanufacted lotus/ matrix engines on ebay for 1900. They dont seem to be there now but keep your eye out.

Bavarian Motorist · 07-05-2008, 01:31 PM

Was the second one a new motor? It probably had problems to begin with

Glad you're keeping your cool.

drosen · 07-05-2008, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willhogan

Anybody with me? Motor number 3... First lasted 9,000 miles, second lasted 800 miles...

I'm going broke over here. Where can I get a cheap crate motor? I don't care to buy used. Might buy rebuilt from MWR.

Cheapest I can find is about $6,700.00 anybody have a better price?

Injectors are going out to get flow tested. First motor cylinder #1 lost compression after a BWR install (lasted under 2,000 miles).

Second motor lasted 800 miles when I broke a valve, also cylinder #1. This time a Charlie X tune.

Either the machine shop that did my head did a **** job or I've got a problem elsewhere.

I'm thinking a fuel delivery issue with #1. Running hot maybe from a bad injector.

Any other ideas?

Somebody sell me a motor....

I have a complete motor out of an salvaged '06 Elise with 3700 miles for $3200.00 + shipping. PM me if interested.

Dan

willhogan · 07-06-2008, 11:18 AM

Dan check your pm...

GTsRasta · 07-06-2008, 12:45 PM

You can get shortblocks much cheaper on toyota sites if you search for the thread that has it here, or newcelica.org...

FLuXeXigeS · 07-06-2008, 01:11 PM

pm sent

07-05-2008, 12:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
willhogan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 74	CRATE MOTOR GROUP BUY! Anybody with me? Motor number 3... First lasted 9,000 miles, second lasted 800 miles... I'm going broke over here. Where can I get a cheap crate motor? I don't care to buy used. Might buy rebuilt from MWR. Cheapest I can find is about $6,700.00 anybody have a better price? Injectors are going out to get flow tested. First motor cylinder #1 lost compression after a BWR install (lasted under 2,000 miles). Second motor lasted 800 miles when I broke a valve, also cylinder #1. This time a Charlie X tune. Either the machine shop that did my head did a **** job or I've got a problem elsewhere. I'm thinking a fuel delivery issue with #1. Running hot maybe from a bad injector. Any other ideas? Somebody sell me a motor....

07-05-2008, 01:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
charliex disproving HD MTBF daily Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas , NV Posts: 8,290	we're thinking maybe its injector related, if the initial rebuild was ok. __________________ Black Exige S - http://goth.am 265 Mule / Elan M100 ECU Tuning, http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39660 Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud. After a while, you realise the pig is enjoying it.

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Bgwilly31 Twisties Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cincy, OH Posts: 1,202	exige S charlie Tune? Whats charlie say? __________________ -*Aspen White Exige S* 04' Lexus Turbo IS300 BSM "track car"--SOLD "Straight lines dont mean sh"

07-05-2008, 01:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
charliex disproving HD MTBF daily Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas , NV Posts: 8,290	Well the same cylinder/valve that went last time has apparently gone on the first drive after i sent up a new ecu, so its either not been fixed correctly in the first place, or whatever caused it initially it is still there, since as far as we know so far its the same issue. this is the primary reason i'm really uncomfortable replacing the BWR tune on cars with existing problems, i may not do any more until we've dynod the kit ourselves. (at the very least getting verifiable compression tests) the other cars i changed out or are using a katana ecu are running fine, except for the DBW error codes on the 06 katana that i haven't released the latest flash for, one has been running around for quite a while now. __________________ Black Exige S - http://goth.am 265 Mule / Elan M100 ECU Tuning, http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39660 Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud. After a while, you realise the pig is enjoying it. Last edited by charliex : 07-05-2008 at 01:24 PM.

07-05-2008, 01:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
VBCARGUY Virginia Beach Car Guy Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 567	They where selling remanufacted lotus/ matrix engines on ebay for 1900. They dont seem to be there now but keep your eye out. __________________ Triumph Tr4a Race Car 1967 SOLD 1954 CJ 3b Willys 2002 Yukon Denali Daily Driver 2006 Exige. The only man in america to have a exige s then go back to a NA exige 1967 911S 1900lbs 220hp

07-05-2008, 01:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
qball Genius! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 4,039 Images: 2	WTF? That's really weird. Something's not right with a) the way you drive the car b) the car c) the alignment of the planets

07-05-2008, 01:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bavarian Motorist Live to Drive Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Rye, NY Posts: 8,387	Was the second one a new motor? It probably had problems to begin with Glad you're keeping your cool. __________________ Driving a Lotus Exige with sticky... performance tires on icy roads or in standing water is about as much fun as walking a high wire treated with WD-40 - Car & Driver BWR supercharged... I suppose I "got the power" now??

07-06-2008, 11:18 AM	#9 (permalink)
willhogan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 74	Dan check your pm...

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