Forcedfed Turbo Elise Video!!

[atyclb]

how was the speed verified? hopefully not just by what the speedometer said

[ChrisB]

Originally Posted by speedracergirl8

...personally i dont see a almost impossible perception of speed difference at a approx .3- .4 second or so saving over stock, am i missing something here...?

You're missing experiencing the difference first-hand. It is definitely not an almost impossible perception of speed difference. Ask anyone who has ridden in that car. It is a YAHOOO difference. In street driving, I think the difference is way more then even the numbers indicate. The stock car is pretty weak on mid-range torque (other than SurferJer, we don't all run around on the high cams all the time - sorry Jer ). The low- and mid-range torque felt like it might be in the range of 50% higher than stock.

[ChrisB]

Originally Posted by Vantage

I get a "This site is not supported" image in my movie.

That is a little strange and the reason for my earlier bad link post. You have to right-click and save the .mov file, then play it locally.

[BrettP]

Originally Posted by ChrisB

You're missing experiencing the difference first-hand. It is definitely not an almost impossible perception of speed difference. Ask anyone who has ridden in that car. It is a YAHOOO difference. In street driving, I think the difference is way more then even the numbers indicate. The stock car is pretty weak on mid-range torque (other than SurferJer, we don't all run around on the high cams all the time - sorry Jer ). The low- and mid-range torque felt like it might be in the range of 50% higher than stock.

Thanks for the real world recap Chris. I will try to get some video of a stock car side by side with the turbo model. This car is not barely quicker than stock, as I think anyone who has been taken for a spin can testify to. I will be heading down to Laguna on Sunday and I beleive that Larry will be bringing his camcorder......

To increase trap speeds by 9-12mph from a standing start through the 1/4 mile takes horsepower, plain and simple. For people needing more speed I will have a 400+ horsepower version soon terrorizing the Bay Area!

[MikeP]

Brett - I'm amazed that the car is just soaking up all that abuse! Not only with the magazine shoots, but all the demo rides you've been giving. Hey, if the car can survive a few more weeks of that punishment, I'd say your kit is good to go.

The sound of the car is simply awesome. The high powered Noble certainly doesn't sound like that and I might want to get my Elise turboed just for that noise. I may be alone in saying this, but I even like the look of the single exhaust.

[Vantage]

Originally Posted by ChrisB

That is a little strange and the reason for my earlier bad link post. You have to right-click and save the .mov file, then play it locally.

Might have been a Firefox issue, because I was saving it locally. Internet Explorer seems fine now.

[iwilson]

You don't need a turbo to turn in those kind of numbers...

http://www.jimbocam.com/blink/dash-cam-pip1.mpg

Just a new engine

[Gridlock]

Originally Posted by Vantage

Might have been a Firefox issue, because I was saving it locally. Internet Explorer seems fine now.

I had the same problem using Explorer.

[Dro]

Originally Posted by Gridlock

I had the same problem using Explorer.

Yep, I had the same problem with both Firefox and IE. Finally cleared my IE cache and tried again. Now the links are working for me. Go figure.

[ChrisStarrUSA]

R&T did their dump at 8000rpm when the got their 4.7 second time. They tested again in a later issue and got a 4.6. C&D got a 4.4, with no comment on starting procedure.

I like the FF setup, looks easier on the clutch and this appears to be a substantial improvement in acceleration. I'll take a 4200 launch anyday. I don't think I have it in me to launch a car at 8000 rpm. I'm cringing at the drivetrain stress...

[Gridlock]

Originally Posted by Dro

Yep, I had the same problem with both Firefox and IE. Finally cleared my IE cache and tried again. Now the links are working for me. Go figure.

Yup, that did the trick.

[evomind]

chris s,
the drivetrain stress at launch is less contingent on rpms alone, than it is on hp/torque made at a given rpm....
i would surmise the 4200 rpm launch is about equal as far as the drivetrain is concerned as the stock launch at 8k.
if u think abt it in terms of force, the turbo'd car is probably making as much if not more power at 4200 rpms as the stocker at 8k.
i would also surmise, without looking at the video, a higher rpm launch with the turbo'd car would just result in massive wheelspin.
also, ur launch is only as hard as ur tires, suspension, and traction will allow.

[ChrisStarrUSA]

Evomind,

Good points all. That said, I'd still prefer to engage first at low rpms and have plenty of power for roll-on accelleration. I'm not going to be drag racing. The ability to do roll-on 0-60s in the low fours rather than 8000 side-step drops for the stock engine is pretty attractive.

[BrettP]

Originally Posted by evomind

chris s,
the drivetrain stress at launch is less contingent on rpms alone, than it is on hp/torque made at a given rpm....
i would surmise the 4200 rpm launch is about equal as far as the drivetrain is concerned as the stock launch at 8k.
if u think abt it in terms of force, the turbo'd car is probably making as much if not more power at 4200 rpms as the stocker at 8k.
i would also surmise, without looking at the video, a higher rpm launch with the turbo'd car would just result in massive wheelspin.
also, ur launch is only as hard as ur tires, suspension, and traction will allow.

Check the video for no wheelspin, and a 7400 rpm launch! Motor Trend got 5.1 seconds 0-60mph in the last test they did with a Touring Elise at the SAME facility and same driver. Both of which are very important to comparing times too.

[BrettP]

Originally Posted by ChrisStarrUSA

Evomind,

Good points all. That said, I'd still prefer to engage first at low rpms and have plenty of power for roll-on accelleration. I'm not going to be drag racing. The ability to do roll-on 0-60s in the low fours rather than 8000 side-step drops for the stock engine is pretty attractive.

As well as the ability to do the same rolling in 6th gear and overtaking people without bouncing the motor off the limiter in 3rd gear to make some go juice. I was schooled on the freeway yesterday in our stock shop car by a rental looking Chevy Malibu....I could not keep up over 85mph.

[shay2nak]

I think we'll see the biggest gains from 0-100 than from 0-60 anyway. Even from what Lotus quotes for the times for the Exige 240R. The biggest improvement was the 0-100 time. Which is what I'm looking for.

Thanks for the videos!

[evomind]

i agree....i would rather have a lot more power down low too, AND more power up top.
i was just making the point that a hard launch is a hard launch, as far as drivetrains go..

brett, which car launched at 7400rpm, urs or the stocker?
i imagine YOURS would result in A LOT of spin at 7400rpm launch....??
didnt have a chance to see ur vids though

[BrettP]

Originally Posted by evomind

i agree....i would rather have a lot more power down low too, AND more power up top.
i was just making the point that a hard launch is a hard launch, as far as drivetrains go..

brett, which car launched at 7400rpm, urs or the stocker?
i imagine YOURS would result in A LOT of spin at 7400rpm launch....??
didnt have a chance to see ur vids though

Watch the video!!!! Our 275 Turbo edition being launched at 7400 rpms!!!

[BrettP]

This should make it easier to watch!


http://www.forcedfed.com/fm.mv?film=movie/p1000311.mov

http://www.forcedfed.com/fm.mv?film=movie/p1000312.mov

http://www.forcedfed.com/fm.mv?film=movie/p1000327.mov

http://www.forcedfed.com/fm.mv?film=movie/p1000328.mov

http://www.forcedfed.com/fm.mv?film=movie/p1000358.mov


I should have some more in car stuff soon. Thanks guys.

[Dro]

The http://www.forcedfed.com/fm.mv?film=movie/p1000358.mov link seems to be broke. All the others worked fine for me.

Thanks Brett.