Hass ProTurbo Kit Release Info

[JayHass]

Hello all, this is the official announcement of the Hass ProTurbo Kit for the Lotus Elise.

As you all know we have been working on a kit for the Elise and I am proud to share preliminary pictures and pricing for the kit.

To start, when we design a kit we look at three areas and ask:

• 1. Does the kit hit the price point for the market
  2. Does the kit have reliability/durability built in.
  3. Does the kit hit our performance goals.

When all three are answered “yes” then we know we hit our mark. I bring this up as there may be some thoughts of why certain design aspects are what they are and it can be argued till the cows come home that “X part could be better if it was Y part” or “The design of A should be like the design of B’s part” etc etc.

GM went through a similar experience when designing the C5 Corvette’s engine. They looked at DOHC options, large displacement, small displacement etc. What they ended up with was an aluminum pushrod engine that everyone initially rolled their eyes at and said “Pushrods? Ugh, GM is at it again”.

However, the design team hit it out of the park with their response.

“We need an engine that could get X fuel economy, fit in Y space, and produce Z horsepower and the pushrod LS1 does all of that in spades”

Sure enough, as we all know that engine is a jewel and the C5 was a major sucess – pushrods be damned.

Same principles apply here. Yes we could do a crazy titanium race header. But that would directly affect price and durability and not offer up enough of a hp gain to offset that margin.

We put together the sum of parts that will give a healthy increase in power, run for years without worry of cracking or parts failing and hit a price point that most will realize is fair and balanced for all.

Having said all that I present to you gentleman the prototype pictures of the Hass ProTurbo Elise.

Major parts list and description:

• Garrett GT28RS Dual BB Turbo. The latest and greatest from Garrett. There is enough headroom for 325whp in this turbo but it performs just fine at 240whp as well. We also port the wastegate hole out to approx 37mm from the standard 28mm.
  
  304 Stainless Steel Thick Walled (1/8”) Turbo Manifold with 1/2” flanges that will not warp.
  
  Smooth merge downpipe that ties into the factory Catalytic converter so any aftermarket exhaust can be used or the factory exhaust as well. The smooth merge of the wastegate eliminates any chances of boost creep.
  
  Ceramic thermal barrier coatings on manifold, downpipe, and turbine housing for durability and heat control.
  
  630cc factory style pencil injectors
  
  Stainless steel braided turbo coolant feed/return line and fittings with AN style ends.
  
  Stainless steel braided turbo oil feed/return line and fittings
  
  Mandrel bent urethane coated intercooler pipes.
  
  Blackstone high density air to air intercooler that measures 6.25"x18"x3.5" (Not including end tanks) The unit works as a large heat sink so it can absorb a fair amount of heat giving the car a "stored" cold air charge until vehicle speed resumes. The intercooler core when tested at an air inlet temp of 250*F at 14.7 psi, with a cooling air temp of 75* lowered the discharge temperature from the 250* to 124*F . Very very efficient.
  
  Dual high velocity fans for the IC and large 30 amp relay.
  
  4ply nomex couplers and reducers that will not blow out or fail over time.
  
  Stainless steel T-Bolt clamps for all IC pipe couplers.
  
  Porsche 996 turbo recirc valve that will not blow out or fail like many other similar units. This also opens the door for a myriad of upgrades if you so choose.
  
  K&N air filter
  
  Nylon braided vacuum line and brass tee fittings that will not expand or fail over time.
  
  30psi VDO white faced boost gauge that matches the factory units very close.
  
  Pre-programmed Greddy E-Manage Ultimate.
  
  NGK spark plugs – one range colder.
  
  K&N oil filter
  
  Aquamist 1S Water Injection System. The same system used on half million dollar rally cars and adds a lot of safety margin when boosting a high compression engine. (www.aquamist.co.uk)
  
  Various fasteners, clips and such that show attention to detail such as included Belleville locking washers for all exhaust components.

Performance numbers:

We were looking for a kit that combines reliability with a nice increase in power. We have made 375 hp on a totally stock 2ZZGE, but we also have found most sane people realize that having that kind of hp in an Elise makes the car very unbalanced and “overpowered”. Some may want that, and we can accommodate such requests easily. But for the rest of us who want to chase down a turbo 996 at a stop light or a Viper at a club race, this kit has you in mind.

The base boost for the kit is 5-6psi so it gives you a nice range of power delivery based on your wants and needs. We have run up to 13psi but do not recommend that unless you have some form of race fuel in the tank. 9-10psi has been attained on a street tune and can be run in ideal conditions with premium fuel without issue. Power output at 9psi has been in the 275-290whp range and we feel confident recommending that as a max boost level on 93 octane pump gas.

If you plan on club racing your car or running it in extreme temperatures for extended periods, we highly recommend adding at least a mix of some race fuel to the pump fuel. This can be attained fairly easy and it normally sold at the pump or in 5 gallon cans. It is a small price to pay for a lot of protection. You *can* run it on regular petrol, but why be a chest thumper if the fuel is available.

We have some preliminary numbers but wish to do some more testing before touting our horn too loudly. The freak weather we have been having has delayed us from final testing but we should have them very soon.

For now, I will simply say that the Elise kit has performed up to the standards of all of our other 2ZZGE kits which produce roughly 255-275whp at 7psi.

Now on to the question all have been asking: HOW MUCH?!

Pricing:

$5995.00 for the complete kit including all of the components listed such as the thermal coatings, fan kit, water injection etc etc.

Installation is available at our facility and we are working with several companies around the United States to become authorized dealers and installers. The network should be in place shortly with more added as time goes on. Until that is in ink, we can refer you to reputable shops we have used in the past.

50% is required as a deposit at time of order and there is a 4 week lead time. We normally do our best to get them out ahead of schedule, but depending on if we get a rush of orders with the release this may put us at the 4 week timeframe and possibly a little more. I don’t want to overpromise and underdeliver.

Side note:

We are working on a complete plug and play replacement ECU for the Lotus as an option with the kit. We are not doing this because of poor performance of the kit, but we also realize that having full stand alone capability is a feature many will want. This should be an option in the near future (couple months) and something you can add to the kit in about 5 minutes by simply swapping out the ECU for the preprogrammed unit.

Thanks for having us, we will be signing on as a site sponsor in the coming days as well. If you have any questions, feel free to email jay@hassturbo.com

[Andrikos]

Sweeeeeeeet!
Jay,
Can a DIY guy do this? Does the kit come with detailed directions?

[kestrel74]

VERY nice kit !! Looks very professional !! BUT>..........
Having said all that I present to you gentleman the prototype pictures of the Hass ProTurbo Elise.

Don't forget the ladies !!!!

[ivan1]

wow...how much for installation at your facility?

[GabbaGabbaHey]

Looks

Will your kit work with an 06 model with its dbw? Do you recommend a new heavy duty clutch and having 2 oil coolers? Have there been any longeviety worries about the Celica transmission with the extra torque / HP?

[Genjuro]

Muhahahah!! Awesome! I can't wait to see what the installation cost is. This may be my first turbo car.

[sleepless]

Nice price considering the factory charges $15K for the supercharger kit. It requires 30 hours of labor to install ($2250 @ $75/hr).

Nice work.

[JayHass]

Originally Posted by Andrikos

Sweeeeeeeet!
Jay,
Can a DIY guy do this? Does the kit come with detailed directions?

It certainly is something DIY guy can do - I have not had the resources to write up DIY level instructions at this time, but we do offer one on one support to help you get it up and running. There is what can be considered a quick reference guide for the pro installer who pretty much already knows what to do, and just needs some guidance on the specifics.

It's not rocket science, this I can assure you and any competent mechanic would not have a problem at all. It's more time consuming than anything.

VERY nice kit !! Looks very professional !! BUT>..........
Having said all that I present to you gentleman the prototype pictures of the Hass ProTurbo Elise.

Don't forget the ladies !!!!

Yikes! Sorry, not intentional. My sweetheart would kick my butt if she realized I did that as she's a tried and true motorsports lover herself. LOL

Thanks for the kind words.

wow...how much for installation at your facility?

That is something I'd rather quote in private. Lets just say we are taking care of the customers that order our product and it's under $1K and roughly 12 hours billable time.

Will your kit work with an 06 model with its dbw? Do you recommend a new heavy duty clutch and having 2 oil coolers? Have there been any longeviety worries about the Celica transmission with the extra torque / HP?

It certainly will work with the DBW. No issues there at all. Believe it or not the stock clutch is holding up surprisingly well! At this point, I'd say use till you smoke it. 2 oil coolers is not a requirement, but highly recommended. I have not heard of any problems with the Toyota 6spd in the MR2 Spyder conversions. The lightweight goes a LONG way to not stressing it like a 2600lb Celica.

Genjuro: See above and feel free to shoot me an email.

[0o7]

Originally Posted by Genjuro

Muhahahah!! Awesome! I can't wait to see what the installation cost is. This may be my first turbo car.

I agree this looks amazing. Good questions Gabba. Any ideas what effect this could have on daily drivability? Is there anything that doesn't come with your kit that you would recommend (othere than a new pair of shorts handy)? Any body you know in TX you would trust with install?

[JayHass]

Originally Posted by sleepless

Nice price considering the factory charges $15K for the supercharger kit. It requires 30 hours of labor to install ($2250 @ $75/hr).

Nice work.

I think I forgot a 1 in front of our figure.


Just kidding.


I'm sure we will be accused of price whoring etc and all I can say is capitalism is what it is. If I can produce a quality product for less than a competitor based on the lean manufacturing techniques we use and based on the years of experience producing these things has brought...that's the name of the game.

We have not compromised anything to do this - we are just very efficient at what we do.

[JayHass]

Originally Posted by 0o7

I agree this looks amazing. Good questions Gabba. Any ideas what effect this could have on daily drivability? Is there anything that doesn't come with your kit that you would recommend (othere than a new pair of shorts handy)? Any body you know in TX you would trust with install?

A radar jammer maybe. LOL

Seriously though, like I said additional oil cooler or a larger oil pan is a nice upgrade. The Sector 111 carbon fiber side scoops are a nice addition as well.

Then there are all the wants vs needs like an Innovate wideband 02 gauge, a DDS3 monitor and control unit for the Aquamist etc etc

As for the installation in TX, why yes I do have someone I can refer you too.

[GHOSTRIDER]

Originally Posted by JayHass

As for the installation in TX, why yes I do have someone I can refer you too.

Do tell.

[0o7]

As for the installation in TX, why yes I do have someone I can refer you too. [/quote]
Yes do!

[Andrikos]

Originally Posted by JayHass

Lets just say we are taking care of the customers that order our product and it's under $1K and roughly 12 hours billable time.
:

Did you just say that we can have a turbo system completely installed for $7k????



You had to be in Connecticut didn't you?

[luca]

Very nice;I will cancell my order for a supercharger kit and order this Turbo kit.
The price look good not inflated because has to be installed in a Lotus

When you gonna start to take orders?

[taburton]

Do you have anyone that you would recommend in Phoenix area for install? I would think Dynocomp as my first guess. Although I think they might be a bit pricey. Please PM me with your thoughts.

Also, the center console that you fab'd... will that be included int he package? It looks great and is a nice setup for guages.

[Irishfan04]

...How about anywhere in Illinois?

Looks great, Jay!

[MattG]

Do you have any plans to obtain CARB certification?

[JnC]

Will the kits work with the 06 cars with drive by wire throttles?

[OneFastLotus]

How long has your mule been in service? How many miles?

Any sustained rpm usage, ie track etc? If so, how many.

Are you recording EGT temps in each cylinder?

Thanks!
Jenn