how do you peel out

[Ground Loop]

Excellent! I've got $100 says Randy can pull it off under pressure.
Who's making book?

[TimMullen]

Originally Posted by ChrisH

Hey, me too! Heat shield (tiles) R&D before the first shuttle went up.

Me three. Trajectory simulations - launch to orbit. Results of the simulations was the data load for the flight computers.

Sometimes knowing how to do the perfect launch is rocket science...

[jeff8875]

Originally Posted by Robert Puertas

Just the other day, this old lady in a minivan absolutely blew my doors off. I know she was sitting there at the light with the torque converter all loaded up just waiting for the green, but still...

Anyway, Randy really helped me out, and I've been driving around looking for that blue Caravan ever since I talked to him.

Thats really not funny.... an old GF of mine used to like taking people off the line in her AUTOMATIC big block camero (she would manualy **** the gears) (daddy build dragsters in Ga) anyway this old beat up dusty dirty suv, small to midsize, pulled up next her and she was playing around gassing the engine.
Silly her she didnt pay attention to the light and when it hit green.... she was eatin the dust of a sh*t box suv, I dont know what it had but you wouldnt have known to look at it, she couldnt even come close to catching up.....
on the bright side I never let her forget it

[elise seeker]

geez, there sure is a lot of 'mine is bigger than yours' attitude going around for guys that drive such teeny toy cars...

the title was ill-chosen, but it was meant to be a bit comical. I was in break in (1000mi service tomorrow), so I was being really easy on it, and getting used to the clutch in the car. I don't like the smell of clutch, smells like money I don't want to pay and time in the shop I don't want to wait for.

I've had all kinds rev up at stop lights, had a late model vette follow me onto the freeway (I had no idea he was there, except to look up to see what was making that horrible noise, only to see him fading in the rear view mirror, scowl on his face). I'm not out to race people in morning traffic, a lot of people apparently are.

my early launches were basically from idle, just enough gas to get off the line without slipping the clutch or jolting the car. the car DOES bog when doing this. I've gotten more comfortable, break in is over, and I'm doing much better now. I'm not out to be a hoodlum, just have a bit of fun. no, I do not want to swap clutches every 5k miles. I don't want to be beaten off the line at stoplights, is that so wrong?

sorry to create such a stir... not really that sorry .

[Randy Chase]

I think I understood what you were looking for you in your original post. I think your last post confirms that. Just launch around 3-5k rpms, depending on the surface traction.

[Ground Loop]

Next up... "How do you do donuts?"

[NMRJock]

Originally Posted by Ground Loop

Next up... "How do you do donuts?"

Easy enough. There is snow on the road here.

[elise seeker]

randy, your advice was what I was looking for...

funny about the donuts. I was coming out of the bank the other day, and a guy standing outside the bar next door (at 10am.. on a weekday...), was yelling how f'in bad the car was, then yelled 'do a donut!'. this in down town. in a small parking lot. in a small town. daylight. in a car that is not exactly hard to track down if you do something really stupid.

So, there will be no thread about donuts, already practiced.

kidding.

[ConeFusion]

Originally Posted by Stan

What sort of 60 foot times have been coming up for the Elise and some other representative cars?

It obviously depends on many factors, but I seem to remember that cars like Z06's are typically in the 2.0 or 2.1 range on a good ProSolo launch. I normally got a high 1.8 or a 1.9 with a relatively smooth launch in the WRX. An abusive AWD launch gets you into the 1.7 range, maybe 1.6 with enough power (SM) and sticky tires.

The practice launches are always fun because you line up against completely different cars. The only time I got completely smoked was by a 7 running DM.

[evomind]

next up, the finer points of j-strokes....

[Randy Chase]

Originally Posted by Ground Loop

Next up... "How do you do donuts?"

[evomind]

haha....

[masheen]

i had a question. i did search. this is the closest thread i found - no answer -so here's the question: how many times do you expect a clutch can be smelled before it goes? i smelled mine twice already. today and another day. going in for the first service tomorrow. the first time i wasn't even trying to get going that quickly, the second time... well i was.

the clutch thing is quite annoying. having practiced with front wheel drive cars i am really good at getting going quickly by slipping the clutch - it's a habit i have to break with the elise - i don't even think about it and it happens. and none of the clutches ever complained.

but the good thing is, like was already mentioned, the car gets going nicely even just off idle and without trying.

[Randy Chase]

I think you can smell it many times and it will still be fine. That so far has been my experience. I am upgrading the clutch this week, but it has been making smells for many months.

I found some very hard launches helped make it better.

[elise seeker]

I'm launching without much regard for the clutch, though anything above 4k is worthless wheelspin. I find flooring the gas and dropping the clutch at ~3.5-4k is the best mix. does anyone do this or keep the engine at constant launch rpm, then floor it as the clutch drops? just curious...

I need sticky tires. stock ones aren't doing it, and hoosiers won't last long when driven 1.5k miles a month...

let us know the wear on your old clutch... are you putting in an ACT?

[Randy Chase]

Originally Posted by elise seeker

let us know the wear on your old clutch... are you putting in an ACT?

Yep. Along with the LSD.

[masheen]

ASP?

[Randy Chase]

The LSD will be stock legal, but the ACT clutch is not and that, and other things, puts us in ASP.

Robert and I are prepping both cars. The green machine is being prepped for SS and the Yellow Menace is prepped for ASP.

Quick rundown-

Green SS:
SSR rims
Hoosier tires or Yokohama A048s
BWR swaybar and adjustable endlinks
Penske shocks
Alignment
CG-Lock
Hope and a Prayer

Yellow ASP car:
15" lightweight racing rims (will lower the car)
Hoosier and Kumho tires (testing next weekend)
LSD
CAI
BWR Swaybar
CG Lock
Springs
Penske shocks
Alignment
Battery

To be done for the ASP car-
ECU change
Header
Exhaust


The question is if we can make an ASP car that is still streetable for me. I don't know.

[mikester]

Originally Posted by Randy Chase

It does seem dismissive when since that is what I do. I travel around the western part of the US doing the SCCA ProSolo drag racing stuff. If it was meant to be amusing, okay... but it is hard to read into that statement that you were smiling. That is the limitation of the typed communication.

I still don't think you are listening in regards to a different philosophy. I buy a brand new set of tires for each ProSolo weekend. I replace clutches when they wear out and never have worried about it. I am not seeing the difference in philosophy that you are seeing.

Again, I was replying to the posters in thread, who may not share that philosophy, and I am betting they do not.

Randy, he was just doing Hans and Franz !

[Crudson]

Originally Posted by jeff8875

Thats really not funny.... an old GF of mine used to like taking people off the line in her AUTOMATIC big block camero (she would manualy **** the gears) (daddy build dragsters in Ga) anyway this old beat up dusty dirty suv, small to midsize, pulled up next her and she was playing around gassing the engine.
Silly her she didnt pay attention to the light and when it hit green.... she was eatin the dust of a sh*t box suv, I dont know what it had but you wouldnt have known to look at it, she couldnt even come close to catching up.....
on the bright side I never let her forget it

Sounds painful...