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Innovative motor mounts

hey guys, has anyone used the 75a or 85a innovative mounts yet ?

we started carrying them and i dont know which stiffness i'd like to get for myself yet, i'd like the 85a but i dont know if thats going to be comfortable on the street driving the car to work as often as i do. I wont have any problem with the 75a because im sure as stiff as it is i'll put up w/any vibrations because i need it that stiff so i dont break anything else and i'd like to remove the flex section from my exhaust and not have to worry about cracking any welds on anything like my turbo manifold.....again.

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I have the 75a 4 pc kit. works great.

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I have the 75a 4 pc kit. works great.
do you think you would consider the 85a, or is the 75a stiff enough ?

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I think the 85 will work great. With a turbo on your car you dont want ANYTHING to move. Even a little bit.

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yes but its still a street car so i want to be sure it is still semi-comfortable

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Not to sound silly, but as a vendor selling this product, isn't part of your value supposed to be being able to answer this question? Couldn't you test both out on your car and give us a comparison?
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im waiting for them to both arrive back in stock, dont have them in yet, i keep selling them to people before i get to put them on my own car....but yes normaly i would like to have first hand information, otherwise i like to ask if i just dont have information on a specific product and i know some guys on here have them already that would be able to relay a little first hand experience.

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Drove a cup car (not mine) with the 85's (I believe)...they work great at reducing engine movement and really improved this particular car's shifting issues under heavy braking. You will, however, notice a lot of additional vibration, especially at idle. For track cars this a total non-issue, but for daily drivers, in stop and go traffic, each person will have their own personal tolerance level. Personally, I wouldn't want the added vibration for street driving.....just my 2 cents, fwiw.

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thanks that does help.

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For a non track and just a street supercharged car, I was thinking just (one) a rear shock might reduce just enough movement without adding vibration for stop and go driving.

Anyone done something similar, like just one or two mounts?
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Drove a cup car (not mine) with the 85's (I believe)...they work great at reducing engine movement and really improved this particular car's shifting issues under heavy braking. You will, however, notice a lot of additional vibration, especially at idle. For track cars this a total non-issue, but for daily drivers, in stop and go traffic, each person will have their own personal tolerance level. Personally, I wouldn't want the added vibration for street driving.....just my 2 cents, fwiw.
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it's amusing, many of the group are installing a loud muffler to tell the world how great the car is, the other half is disturbed by the slight difference in IDLE vibration that better motor mounts make....
i don't like noise but find the slight difference in vibration entirely acceptable, and even moreso when i see the engine banging around before i installed them.
they're easy to install, not expensive and work.
as the saying goes, "try it, you'll like it"
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well i was looking to see if the 85A's were just untollerable by many people for street use but since i didnt see those type of responses i ordered the 85A for my car.

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yes but its still a street car so i want to be sure it is still semi-comfortable
Your car being kind enough to give you a nice message while you wait for the traffic lights is always comfortable...

Chicks will also like the vibration.
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If you run a damper like ff sell with the 75s wouldnt this give a similar feeling to the 75 without the vibration issues?
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The ff damper only ameliorates the front to back engine rocking, not side to side. The damper doesn't solve the rocking problem though; it just makes it less noticeable. As your driving improves and you eventually venture onto tracks, the damper becomes less effective under hard braking.
I am looking at stiffer motor mounts because the damper can only handle so much movement.
The damper does a great job for aggressive street driving, but the track puts too much stress on it.
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Just for the record, the mounts Sector sells are Innovative 60A.

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any pics of these mounts? i don't know how the mounts on these cars look like yet..

i have solid mounts all around for motor and tranny.. the vibration is very noticable.. i don't have a lotus but on any type of race car i have. i could tolorate the vibration..

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Just for the record, the mounts Sector sells are Innovative 60A.
I would have guessed the s111 track mounts were the 85a duromometer urethane variety.
If s111 "track" mounts are 60a, then what will their "street" mounts be?

Innovative motor mount's lowest duromometer is 60a on the website: Innovative Mounts, JDM Motor Swaps, Honda Performance, SwapShopRacing

Are you sure the s111 track mounts are only60a?

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They are available in 60A-red, 75A-black, 85A-grey, 95A-red and Solid inserts. Any mount can be custom made with any color insert but those are the standard colors if that helps.

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