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Old 03-06-2009, 09:29 PM   #301 (permalink)
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Got Mine today and am planning to install Tues Evening after work. Awesome milling on the CNC. Beautiful. Thanks Troy.
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Old 03-06-2009, 10:14 PM   #302 (permalink)
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Fantastic service

I had a problem with my instal and was left with a stiff change. I sent a PM to Troy and he told me what may be the problem and a "fix". The guy knows what he is about and even offered to send a whole new kit to Australia by fast post immediately to get me out of trouble. That is what I call service!!!! Anyway it is all great and I couldn"t be happier with the product and the service.
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Old 03-07-2009, 02:58 PM   #303 (permalink)
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Started install 1-1/2 hours ago. Just finished step 7: removing the 12mm nut on the bellcrank lever. That last one is a particular b*tch.

Some key tools I had to go get after I started:

- 10" extension for my extended 14mm socket to get the mouning bolts out in step 5. Just too tight to do from under the hoses (but you can access from there). You might need a 12" extension for a regular socket. Troy does mention this in the instructions, don't ignore it.

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- Beer (I thought I could do it without this one, I was wrong)
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Old 03-07-2009, 03:21 PM   #304 (permalink)
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I installed my Letsla today. Getting started was probably the hardest part - there isn't much room to work and this made it look rather daunting. The whole exercise took me about 4 hours, which included a trip to the store to buy a magnetic retriever after I dropped a nut on to the undertray and another to buy a 7/16th drill for the sheath protector, as I couldn't wait for the replacement to arrive. The hardest part (for me) was removing the console.....
A few observations:
- removing the cable bracket made it easier to reach in and remove the R clips
- in case it isn't obvious, removing the "bonnet" makes access a lot easier
- the plastic part on the end of the crossgate lever was very loose on disassembly - be very careful not to drop it
- after I had the Letsla successfully bolted down, I discovered that the arm that connects to the L shaped piece was trapped and I had to remove the everything to free it - be warned.
- the gearshift won't function until you have the cables attached to the bracket. I was a bit worried at this point, as I thought I had screwed something up, but all was well and after having wrestled with the console for 45 mins I discovered the original settings were the best anyway
- I wasn't sure about how the rubber cable protectors fitted with the sheath protectors. Troy confirmed he just slides them over the protectors as far as the securing clamps. This is a bit awkward - easier if you spray some silicone inside first
- Troy is very helpful - I swapped several e-mails with him during the installation. Don't know how he finds the time.
- it really is pretty simple, just take your time and be careful not to drop stuff. The hardest part is the lack of access. A long socket extension is useful, with an Allen socket to attach the L bracket - it would take for ever with a standard Allen key.

I can't wait to get the car out of storage and try the new shifter - next month! Now on to the Innovative mounts.....
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Old 03-07-2009, 05:40 PM   #305 (permalink)
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I'm just starting hour 4 and the fifth beer and just removed the center console.

Some more observations:

- My crossgate rod was slightly bent so wouldn't go in to the sheath protector. After some jostling and a little work with a smaller drill bit than the hole it went on.

- I didn't re-install the rubber boots...don't think that is in the instructions...and having come this far, @#$& it; hope this doesn't screw me up.

- Getting the plastic square part and the end of the crossgate lever back in to the slot it goes in is very tactile, takes a lot of feeling around. Fortunately I did not drop that or anything else, but it would be easy to do.

- My hardware store only had an 8mm allen wrench in one of those folding sets. I took the set apart and used an 8mm open end wrench with the separated 8mm allen tool in the "L bracket" bolt to tighten (step E). This seemed to work ok and avoided another trip to another hardware store looking for a long handle 8mm allen wrench.

- The screws on the sides of my console are torx, but I guess most people know that already.

More later,
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Old 03-07-2009, 07:02 PM   #306 (permalink)
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I sent my monies in last Friday but haven't heard anything back.
Any idea when my order would have or will ship?
I shipped out 15 orders on Monday. I have the rest to be shipped out on Monday as I have the final parts in transit and to me tomorrow (Friday). I will do the final assembly and packaging over the weekend and then ship out on Monday.
Troy, I'm late tothe party but want to dance. Have any left? Let me know if, how and when. Thanks.
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Old 03-08-2009, 05:27 AM   #307 (permalink)
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If you have already re-enforced your shifter do you have to do that step?
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Old 03-08-2009, 05:56 AM   #308 (permalink)
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I have a couple, but I have already ordered another batch so it will all be fine.
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Troy, I'm late to the party but want to dance. Have any left? Let me know if, how and when. Thanks.
Some tips that I found when doing all my installs.
1- I have installed it a few different ways, such as leaving the entire assembly as one until and then putting the rod ends on later. I found this to be much harder.

2-I really like taking the L bracket off the LETSLA and install the base with the crossgate first. Tip there is when you install it make sure you pull up the double rod end that will connect to the L bracket or you will trap it there and have to remove the base to get it out.

3- When installing the base with the crossgate I get it in there and have the 14mm bolts ready with loctite on them and then I reach down and install the plastic piece that goes on the end of the crossgate. I did this at the last possible moment to help from dropping the piece. I then line it up in the slot and bolt the base down by hand with the 14mm bolts just so it is snug so the black plastic piece does not fall away.

4-After the base is attached I go for the L shaped bracket. I connect the double rod end before I bolt it down as I can move it up and get to the nut that holds it much easier this way. I can also get the 12mm wrench on it much easier this way. Don't forget the loctite on that nut!!

5- I use an allen socket and long extension to screw on the L shaped bracket to the base plate and it should go on easy. Don't forget the loctite.

6- On the center console it can be a pain to get off and on. A trick or two on that is take off the cable bracket on the trans first and then it should come out easy. Now getting it on can be harder and there are a few things you can do. If you take the R clips off the cable bracket you can have some room, but might not be enough so you may have to loosen the bolts hold the cable bracket and this should give you enough room to slid the console on. Another possible item is to not connect the rod end at the front shifter level and slide the console on, put the zip tie for the leather boot, and then pop on the rod ends. You will need to use a plyers to pop it on. This can work and I have done that. All in all the console sucks getting on. Sometimes it slides right and sometimes not.

7- I love Lotus, but having a hand built car means that there are little differences such as how hard the console can be based on that little bit of clearance. There are little things that are different after doing all the installs and what make Lotus Lotus.

I am doing a couple of installs today and will take some pictures of the steps a lot more and post them tonight on the instructions page. I wanted to do this the last few times and just go so into the install that I forgot to take pics of each stage and part. I am determine to remember today!

If you have questions when doing the install or run into any, how the heck do I do that moments you can email me on my iphone and I should answer quickly. Troymx576@aol.com My IM is Troymx576

Also- on the customer service part I try to treat each person the same way I would want to be treated and try to go above on beyond for each person. It is difficult to be as fast as I want at responding to emails (not instant all the time) because I have sent out about 50 kits in the last 2 weeks alone. Most people only have time on weekends to install so I get busy with questions so if I do not answer right away I am sorry, but emailing me or texting should be quick. If you need my number to talk on the phone just email me at Troymx576@aol.com and I will call you.

One more note. Can you all do me a favor in that the only way to improve the product and improve myself in all aspects is that I love feedback, good and bad. If you see something that could be tweaked or improved to make the product better or make the process better let me know so I can improve on it. If you love it and it is perfect in every way let me know that also. I would just like to know either way. With all the installs done now I am just anxious to know how it all went for everyone. I am also going to post some comments on my website and make a compilation of them. Please email comments to Troy@Trueleo.com
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Old 03-08-2009, 06:00 AM   #309 (permalink)
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Nope. It was just something extra I could do with the kit to make it that much better in my eyes. It is just an option if you want to do it and is up to you. It does not effect the LETSLA at all.
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Old 03-08-2009, 06:10 AM   #310 (permalink)
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3- When installing the base with the crossgate I get it in there and have the 14mm bolts ready with loctite on them and then I reach down and install the plastic piece that goes on the end of the crossgate. I did this at the last possible moment to help from dropping the piece. I then line it up in the slot and bolt the base down by hand with the 14mm bolts just so it is snug so the black plastic piece does not fall away.
Troy, is there a reason why we can't glue the black plastic piece on to the end of the crossgate? I'm sure everyone that install your kit will never go back to the old linkage so there will be no need to reuse that again.
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Old 03-08-2009, 06:18 AM   #311 (permalink)
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You can not glue that piece on becuase it needs to float and move when in. The angle on the crossgate changes, but the angle on the interia does not so the plastic square actually moves on the end of the crossgate when you move it with the shifter.

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Old 03-08-2009, 06:22 AM   #312 (permalink)
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Got it. Thanks. Oh great customer support for this product by the way
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Old 03-08-2009, 06:26 AM   #313 (permalink)
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Troy, is there a reason why we can't glue the black plastic piece on to the end of the crossgate? I'm sure everyone that install your kit will never go back to the old linkage so there will be no need to reuse that again.
Do NOT glue it.. It has to slide in the crossgate and to do this it also has to pivot on the linkage.

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One more note. Can you all do me a favor in that the only way to improve the product and improve myself in all aspects is that I love feedback, good and bad. If you see something that could be tweaked or improved to make the product better or make the process better let me know so I can improve on it. If you love it and it is perfect in every way let me know that also. I would just like to know either way. With all the installs done now I am just anxious to know how it all went for everyone. I am also going to post some comments on my website and make a compilation of them. Please email comments to Troy@Trueleo.com
Only improvement I can think of would to find another way of fastening on the cable sheath instead of the hose clamps and maybe find a better boot to put on it since the stock one doesn't fit very well. I was thinking about maybe epoxying my cable sheath's on, just have to be careful to not get anything on the cable itself.
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Old 03-08-2009, 10:34 AM   #314 (permalink)
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Old 03-08-2009, 12:07 PM   #315 (permalink)
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Have over 1000 around town miles (lots of shifting) now with my kit and still enjoying it very much... Thanks!
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Got mine installed and works great on my '05 with no further adjustment under the console needed. One small snag Troy helped with and was great talking me through the issue. If you have problems getting the crossgate pin in the slot - contact him.

Here's a tip:

I had difficulty getting the clips in. My hands are too fat to use Troy's method so I pulled the shifter in to the 5th gear position and held with a bungie cord. That forces the ends on both cross-gate and shifter cables up tight in to the bracket...allowing easy insertion of the clips.
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On the customer service part I try to treat each person the same way I would want to be treated and try to go above on beyond for each person. It is difficult to be as fast as I want at responding to emails (not instant all the time) because I have sent out about 50 kits in the last 2 weeks alone. Most people only have time on weekends to install so I get busy with questions so if I do not answer right away I am sorry, but emailing me or texting should be quick. If you need my number to talk on the phone just email me at Troymx576@aol.com and I will call you.
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Can't wait to get mine...hoping it gets here before the end of the week. Have an Autox I need to win. and I need every little bit of help I can get.
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I went to a car show in the Philly area this weekend. I let a few people sit in my car and they could not believe the short throw and feel of the shifter

Excellent job Troy. It's still my favorite upgrade. The car is so much more enjoyable to drive.
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Old 03-09-2009, 08:38 AM   #320 (permalink)
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Finally had mine installed over the weekend. The shift reinforcement spacer doesn't fit a RHD Exige S240 but I don't think this is an issue. The shifter is pretty soild from factory. I initially tried the second shortest throw (ie the way it came) first and but I am trying to see if I can get use to the shortest throw (what I am on now) before deciding which way to go. Obviously a bit more effort is needed to shift (especially using the shortest throw) but the general feeling is a much solid/tighter shift action.

My mechanic thinks the finishing of the kit can be improved (a bit more polishing and chamferring the edges of the brackets maybe?) He also replaced the rod ends with some higher quality items.

The install took a bit longer than the one hour indicated because this was the first one done by my mechanic and he wanted to be more careful and hence removed a quite a few pieces inside the engine bay in order to get a better view of the what goes where and how.

Overall pretty satisfied so far.
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