LETSLA Short Shifter Linkage - Page 18 - LotusTalk

darkSol · 03-12-2009, 11:15 AM

Troy, I installed the new "deeper cut" cable shield last night (took about 15 minutes) and now I can hit 3rd gear again! It's a pure joy shifting through ALL SIX of my forward gears now!

Kudos! That was the biggest thing I hated about the car - the sloppy shifter!

Now if I can just do something about my loud exhaust

elisesile · 03-12-2009, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hachisu

Received mine yesterday.

Can someone please upload or email me a picture of all the parts that are supposed to be in the box. I've looked at all the pictures on the product page and I think something is missing/irregular about the contents of the parts I received. I have emailed & PM'd Troy, but haven't heard back yet.

Here you go:

milehitom · 03-12-2009, 12:43 PM

^^Yep. That's what mine looks like, too.^^

Fantastic piece of equipment! Even my wife said "Wow." Then she said "What it is?"

She (and I) was very impressed by the lightness of the unit. I'll be installing mine this weekend

Tom

elisesile · 03-12-2009, 12:45 PM

If anyone in the LA area wants to come see the unit installed and working, I'm happy to show mine off. Just PM me.

John

Hachisu · 03-12-2009, 01:45 PM

Is the rod I have circled (from pix from install site) from the stock parts?

Is the 90 degree L shaped part supposed to be cut off so close to the hole? I don't see anywhere in any of the site's pix that show that piece being cut off.

elisesile · 03-12-2009, 02:21 PM

Top photo looks the same as mine including the end of the "L" shape bracket. Bottom photo looks like it has arm attached that is on the car, and links the L bracket to the inertia gear.

Looks to me like you have all right stuff.

I'm sure Troy will clarify, he was very responsive to my questions.

Hachisu · 03-12-2009, 02:29 PM

Thanks for all the help.

Was very curious as to why such a beautifully designed/machined piece was cut off after the fact and how it will affect durability.

Elise1204 · 03-12-2009, 04:53 PM

Looks they are very well designed and made.

One thing is always in my mind. Because I do not know how much force applied at these parts/joints when you shift hard, how do you figure out the strength of the material you need to use? The original ones are all galvanized iron material.
Can aluminum parts handle the max force without FATIGUE happening after many years' of use? Shift is one of the most critical parts related to safety.

I read most posts but if this has been already asked and answered pardon me.

NSR · 03-12-2009, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Was very curious as to why such a beautifully designed/machined piece was cut off after the fact and how it will affect durability.

Mine came the same way, I assumed that the machinist tried to maximize number of parts that he could get from the block of material, I don't think it was done after the fact. It was a little annoying to see that when all the rest looked so nice.

TroyLotus · 03-12-2009, 05:48 PM

On the pictures that are posted below. That is the stock double rod end that goes from the bellcrank to the inertia. I just had it out and took pics of it installed on the LETSLA. I tried installing the LETSLA with this connect already and then bolt it up to the inertia when in. There is a 12mm nut on the end there and it was such a huge PITA to get it on I said the heck with that way to install it and just take off the bellcrank arm now as described in the directions.

On the bellcrank being shaved a little bit I had to do that to make sure it clears the rod end that goes on the corssgate lever when in the shortest position. I noticed that when there it would hit by about 2mm so I just had that shaved off and sanded smooth. On the next batch that will simple be done when machining the part in the CNC and look smoother. It will function the same way the LETSLA is so overbuilt there is not issue there. I designed the LETSLA and sent the drawings to an engineering firm to put them into the CAD and IGS files in SolidWorks for me. I explained the application and loads that will be on it and they laughed at the material I choose. They tried to talk me into material that was much smaller in thickness and would do the job, but I choose thicker to be safe and that size did not cost much more since it is a common size material.

On the pricing I am waiting on the final price from one CNC supplier as they charge per hour and when the run is done tomorrow or over the weekend I can have final pricing. I did start keeping track of all my time it has taken to do these, all my costs of materials and supplies plus the cost of running a business. I got a little depressed for a moment and wondered why I did not just put .org on the end of my site when I got it. It is a good thing for me I am happy, satisfied and proud if I have people using a part I designed and came up with that makes our cars that much better and more enjoyable to drive. With that in mind I do need to raise prices and will put it on my site over the weekend, but I will give a heads up before I do it.

Chococar · 03-12-2009, 08:03 PM

Ordered.

Thanks,

Joe

pixlpush · 03-12-2009, 08:28 PM

mine just showed up, I think I'll get it in this weekend! Thanks Troy

RichardNHCooper · 03-13-2009, 04:02 AM

I just received a package from The USA, to my surprise it was a new cable sheath protector. I had to cut mine shorter to make it fit, Troy must have picked up on this and sent me a replacement at no cost and I didn't even ask for it.That's service !!!!
Thanks Troy, I will fit it when I get time but for now the shifter is great.

jesterbot · 03-13-2009, 12:10 PM

Hey Troy, could you tell me if mine has already shipped? Nothing has arrived yet...

jesterbot/Kevin W.

Thanks!

mrcarcrazy · 03-13-2009, 04:36 PM

mine came today.

Time to get er done so to speak.

Wonder if this is one of those projects I should do without the help of my whiskey and coke combo...

goelise · 03-13-2009, 05:38 PM

mine came in today too!!!

I've yet to open the box...later tonight after I put the kids down for the evening.

mrcarcrazy · 03-13-2009, 08:26 PM

ruh row.....I can't seem to get the thing to go into any gear other than 4th......

trying all the adjustments and not having much luck.

throw adjustments are set on those as shipped.

I think its the crossgate adjustment based on my moving bits attached to transmission...lets see.

ok, got er done. HOLY HELL THAT"S a short throw...gotta lengthen that a little. seems too short (is there such a thing?)

EDIT
After tinkering some more I believe that the 3 inch sleeve is hitting the heim joint on the shift cable when I try to go into 1,3,5)

I removed clamp and it is on as far as it will go...It is going into the gears, but it doesn't feel like the throw is equal (1,3,5 VS 2,4,6) So I'm wondering if its maybe only partially engaging....which might be BAD juju for my transmissions lifespan

Addictedto · 03-14-2009, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcarcrazy

ruh row.....I can't seem to get the thing to go into any gear other than 4th......

trying all the adjustments and not having much luck.

throw adjustments are set on those as shipped.

I think its the crossgate adjustment based on my moving bits attached to transmission...lets see.

ok, got er done. HOLY HELL THAT"S a short throw...gotta lengthen that a little. seems too short (is there such a thing?)

EDIT
After tinkering some more I believe that the 3 inch sleeve is hitting the heim joint on the shift cable when I try to go into 1,3,5)

I removed clamp and it is on as far as it will go...It is going into the gears, but it doesn't feel like the throw is equal (1,3,5 VS 2,4,6) So I'm wondering if its maybe only partially engaging....which might be BAD juju for my transmissions lifespan

It may be that you have the wrong sleeve on the wrong cable. Thats where I would start. The heim should not touch the sleeve on either one. The longer sleeve should be on the cable on the passenger side and the short sleeve should be on the cable on the drivers side according to the pics in the instructions.

TroyLotus · 03-14-2009, 05:54 AM

When you put the rubber boots did you slide them on the sheath protector all the way? If not then the end can get bunched up and cause the bellcrank to not go back as far as it should because all the rubber is in the way. What you can also do is try to remove the sheath protector and see if this fixes it and then you know it is this. There are two sheath protectors and one is 3" long and the other is 4" long. The 3" one is for the bellcrank and the 4" is for the crossgate. Email me at Troy@Trueleo.com of further info.

Quote:

ruh row.....I can't seem to get the thing to go into any gear other than 4th......

trying all the adjustments and not having much luck.

throw adjustments are set on those as shipped.

I think its the crossgate adjustment based on my moving bits attached to transmission...lets see.

ok, got er done. HOLY HELL THAT"S a short throw...gotta lengthen that a little. seems too short (is there such a thing?)

EDIT
After tinkering some more I believe that the 3 inch sleeve is hitting the heim joint on the shift cable when I try to go into 1,3,5)

I removed clamp and it is on as far as it will go...It is going into the gears, but it doesn't feel like the throw is equal (1,3,5 VS 2,4,6) So I'm wondering if its maybe only partially engaging....which might be BAD juju for my transmissions lifespan

Whiskey · 03-14-2009, 08:16 AM

I just placed an order for this awesome design.

Looking forward to install this kit and hear about your upcoming exhaust system for SC'd Lotus.

03-12-2009, 11:15 AM	#341 (permalink)
darkSol Meow!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Leawood, KS Posts: 2,576	Troy, I installed the new "deeper cut" cable shield last night (took about 15 minutes) and now I can hit 3rd gear again! It's a pure joy shifting through ALL SIX of my forward gears now! Kudos! That was the biggest thing I hated about the car - the sloppy shifter! Now if I can just do something about my loud exhaust __________________ d.a..v...i....d David Thomas Stewart - davidtstewart@gmail.com TVS Supercharged 2005 Graphite Grey Lotus Elise: 286whp, 1781lbs. Lotus cars aren't made, they're hand built from dreams. If you must choose between two evils, pick the one you've never tried before.

03-12-2009, 12:45 PM	#344 (permalink)
elisesile Also, my rug was stolen. Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 218	If anyone in the LA area wants to come see the unit installed and working, I'm happy to show mine off. Just PM me. John __________________ 05 Lotus Elise S/T 06 Porsche Carrera S Coupe - for hauling kids and luggage

03-12-2009, 01:45 PM	#345 (permalink)
Hachisu Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 101	Is the rod I have circled (from pix from install site) from the stock parts? Is the 90 degree L shaped part supposed to be cut off so close to the hole? I don't see anywhere in any of the site's pix that show that piece being cut off. Attached Images

03-12-2009, 02:21 PM	#346 (permalink)
elisesile Also, my rug was stolen. Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 218	Top photo looks the same as mine including the end of the "L" shape bracket. Bottom photo looks like it has arm attached that is on the car, and links the L bracket to the inertia gear. Looks to me like you have all right stuff. I'm sure Troy will clarify, he was very responsive to my questions. __________________ 05 Lotus Elise S/T 06 Porsche Carrera S Coupe - for hauling kids and luggage

03-12-2009, 05:48 PM	#350 (permalink)
TroyLotus Elise Driver Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 165	On the pictures that are posted below. That is the stock double rod end that goes from the bellcrank to the inertia. I just had it out and took pics of it installed on the LETSLA. I tried installing the LETSLA with this connect already and then bolt it up to the inertia when in. There is a 12mm nut on the end there and it was such a huge PITA to get it on I said the heck with that way to install it and just take off the bellcrank arm now as described in the directions. On the bellcrank being shaved a little bit I had to do that to make sure it clears the rod end that goes on the corssgate lever when in the shortest position. I noticed that when there it would hit by about 2mm so I just had that shaved off and sanded smooth. On the next batch that will simple be done when machining the part in the CNC and look smoother. It will function the same way the LETSLA is so overbuilt there is not issue there. I designed the LETSLA and sent the drawings to an engineering firm to put them into the CAD and IGS files in SolidWorks for me. I explained the application and loads that will be on it and they laughed at the material I choose. They tried to talk me into material that was much smaller in thickness and would do the job, but I choose thicker to be safe and that size did not cost much more since it is a common size material. On the pricing I am waiting on the final price from one CNC supplier as they charge per hour and when the run is done tomorrow or over the weekend I can have final pricing. I did start keeping track of all my time it has taken to do these, all my costs of materials and supplies plus the cost of running a business. I got a little depressed for a moment and wondered why I did not just put .org on the end of my site when I got it. It is a good thing for me I am happy, satisfied and proud if I have people using a part I designed and came up with that makes our cars that much better and more enjoyable to drive. With that in mind I do need to raise prices and will put it on my site over the weekend, but I will give a heads up before I do it. __________________ Trueleo LETSLA 2005 Elise-LR,SP,HT,T, Trueleo LETSLA, Exige side scoops and grills, Stage II exhaust, FF splitter, Air2Gel seat foam, Stripes, Eliminator, Future- TVS SC kit, Fidanza flywheel, ACT HD, Custom SC headers and exhaust, SS valves, Ti Retainers,

03-12-2009, 12:43 PM	#343 (permalink)
milehitom Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,146	^^Yep. That's what mine looks like, too.^^ Fantastic piece of equipment! Even my wife said "Wow." Then she said "What it is?" She (and I) was very impressed by the lightness of the unit. I'll be installing mine this weekend Tom

03-12-2009, 02:29 PM	#347 (permalink)
Hachisu Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 101	Thanks for all the help. Was very curious as to why such a beautifully designed/machined piece was cut off after the fact and how it will affect durability.

03-12-2009, 04:53 PM	#348 (permalink)
Elise1204 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 70	Looks they are very well designed and made. One thing is always in my mind. Because I do not know how much force applied at these parts/joints when you shift hard, how do you figure out the strength of the material you need to use? The original ones are all galvanized iron material. Can aluminum parts handle the max force without FATIGUE happening after many years' of use? Shift is one of the most critical parts related to safety. I read most posts but if this has been already asked and answered pardon me.

03-12-2009, 08:03 PM	#351 (permalink)
Chococar #334 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 1,547	Ordered. Thanks, Joe

03-12-2009, 08:28 PM	#352 (permalink)
pixlpush Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,007 Images: 124	mine just showed up, I think I'll get it in this weekend! Thanks Troy __________________ 2005 Elise, CO, LSS, Hard Top 2006 Mini Cooper S - peper white 1986 BMW E30 325E - 24 Hours of LeMons race turd The B-Team, 24 Hours of LeMons Race Team

03-13-2009, 04:02 AM	#353 (permalink)
RichardNHCooper Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Perth, western Australia Posts: 54	I just received a package from The USA, to my surprise it was a new cable sheath protector. I had to cut mine shorter to make it fit, Troy must have picked up on this and sent me a replacement at no cost and I didn't even ask for it.That's service !!!! Thanks Troy, I will fit it when I get time but for now the shifter is great. __________________ 2006 111R Elise,VF stg 1 supercharged,HIDs,Harness bar, LETSLA,Nitrons, Ferodo DS 2500,FF engine damper. Saikou Michi catch cans.Toyota MWR Transmission Lotus 6-spd 3.9:1 LSD Uprated clutch.

03-13-2009, 12:10 PM	#354 (permalink)
jesterbot "Are you in a band??" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 456	Hey Troy, could you tell me if mine has already shipped? Nothing has arrived yet... jesterbot/Kevin W. Thanks! __________________ 20XX Lotus Evora SC 2009 Star Raider 2007 F-150 Lariat 2006 SY Elise - SOLD

03-13-2009, 04:36 PM	#355 (permalink)
mrcarcrazy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 690	mine came today. Time to get er done so to speak. Wonder if this is one of those projects I should do without the help of my whiskey and coke combo... __________________ 2005 Magnetic Blue Elise - "the Lotus" (original I know) 2001 Jeep Wrangler - "soul crusher". If you dont GET it after you drive it, then you dont GET it - serpent

03-13-2009, 05:38 PM	#356 (permalink)
goelise AR #1275 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Midwest, USA Posts: 2,527 Images: 1	mine came in today too!!! I've yet to open the box...later tonight after I put the kids down for the evening. __________________ '06 Ardent Red Elise - black interior with LSS, Touring, HT, Starshield, Lotus Sport Clutch, Moroso Oil Pan, 2ZZ(#2), Ekological HIDs, Lotus Driving Lights, Stebel Horn, Bootie, Razo '06 Pedal mod,Snorkel Delete,Odyssey 680 with s111 bracket. Future Mods:LETSLA (ordered), Rear toe link brace Thank you FVMC! WOO-HOO!

03-13-2009, 08:26 PM	#357 (permalink)
mrcarcrazy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 690	can't get any gear except 4th ruh row.....I can't seem to get the thing to go into any gear other than 4th...... trying all the adjustments and not having much luck. throw adjustments are set on those as shipped. I think its the crossgate adjustment based on my moving bits attached to transmission...lets see. ok, got er done. HOLY HELL THAT"S a short throw...gotta lengthen that a little. seems too short (is there such a thing?) EDIT After tinkering some more I believe that the 3 inch sleeve is hitting the heim joint on the shift cable when I try to go into 1,3,5) I removed clamp and it is on as far as it will go...It is going into the gears, but it doesn't feel like the throw is equal (1,3,5 VS 2,4,6) So I'm wondering if its maybe only partially engaging....which might be BAD juju for my transmissions lifespan __________________ 2005 Magnetic Blue Elise - "the Lotus" (original I know) 2001 Jeep Wrangler - "soul crusher". If you dont GET it after you drive it, then you dont GET it - serpent Last edited by mrcarcrazy : 03-13-2009 at 09:21 PM.

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03-14-2009, 08:16 AM	#360 (permalink)
Whiskey Love is More Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Athens, Ohio Posts: 200	I just placed an order for this awesome design. Looking forward to install this kit and hear about your upcoming exhaust system for SC'd Lotus. __________________ Will WTB: Elise Hardtop with Hardware - Storm Ti. (Color Code B121) Please send PM Elise: My process of adding exige side scoops (+ Front Mesh) \| 2005 Lotus Elise : Sport Pack : Biscuit Touring Pack : Storm Ti \| BWR Supercharger \| Exige Side ducts and front mesh \| LETSLA Short Shifter (ordered) \| Last edited by Whiskey : 03-14-2009 at 08:21 AM.